News Tron coaster coming to the Magic Kingdom

James Alucobond

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Also, do we know that 7DMT will remain on ILL once Tron opens? If not immediately, I presume it would move to G+ soon after, so the marginal ILL revenue wouldn’t be all that substantial
With TRON's capacity and height requirement being what it is, I don't think there's any reason for them to take Seven Dwarfs out of the rotation so soon. There are only so many who can ride each day, and that's not equal to the number of people coming into the park. Magic Kingdom also has enough attractions to make Genie+ worthwhile even without TRON and Seven Dwarfs in the pool.
 

DisneyDodo

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With TRON's capacity and height requirement being what it is, I don't think there's any reason for them to take Seven Dwarfs out of the rotation so soon. There are only so many who can ride each day, and that's not equal to the number of people coming into the park. Magic Kingdom also has enough attractions to make Genie+ worthwhile even without TRON and Seven Dwarfs in the pool.
It’s possible you’re right, but they’ve been operating with one ILL at each park recently (all of which have height requirements), so my guess is that that’s their plan moving forward
 

EricsBiscuit

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One thing this doesn't take into consideration, which is hard to estimate, is how many people will just trade one ILL for Tron. For example of getting one for Mine Train, they will now get it for Tron instead.
Not sure but they have data from DLP and from WDW to compare and see which method works better. Not exactly 100% comparable but it’s the closest to an experiment they can get to. I think they could get away with it, even if they have to cut the price for SDMT.
 

TheMaxRebo

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It’s possible you’re right, but they’ve been operating with one ILL at each park recently (all of which have height requirements), so my guess is that that’s their plan moving forward

Though their initial plan was 2 in each park but they shifted capacity to G+ to add value to that and make it a bit more user friendly.

Of the parks, MK definitely is the one best served to have 2 ILLs as still plenty of G+ attractions ... So, I just don't think we can presume either way

This would definitely be the test case for having 2, so probably baby safe to say if they do movie Mine train to G+ right away then going forward likely is for only one per park no matter what
 

doctornick

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Though their initial plan was 2 in each park but they shifted capacity to G+ to add value to that and make it a bit more user friendly.

Of the parks, MK definitely is the one best served to have 2 ILLs as still plenty of G+ attractions ... So, I just don't think we can presume either way

This would definitely be the test case for having 2, so probably baby safe to say if they do movie Mine train to G+ right away then going forward likely is for only one per park no matter what
True. MK unlike the other WDW parks actually can handle two ILL rides and still have a somewhat functional G+. Doing so with Tron opening makes it no worse than G+ is now (beyond the idea that Tron might bring more guests to the park).

The other three WDW parks can’t support more than one ILL (really can’t even support that due to capacity levels) and really need significant expansion before they should consider it.

In DLR, isn’t DCA using two ILL with Spider-Man and RSR? While DL itself only has one in ROTR? So that reflects that Disney is willing to use different numbers at different parks.
 
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J4546

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Webslingers wont be ILL for much longer, its a new(ish) ride so I get why they are doing it now, but I bet ILL is gone for WS by 2023. Thats just my guess though
 

erasure fan1

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I think they’ll drop ILLs for 7dmt when Tron opens. Just a hunch.
That would make sense. At least for the first 4 to 6 months anyway. Then if demand drops, I can see them switch back to mine train. Now if I was a betting man, I would guess we start seeing them add more rides to the paid system. Especially at magic kingdom. I can easily see them having 3 attractions ILL there.
 

DisneyDodo

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Though their initial plan was 2 in each park but they shifted capacity to G+ to add value to that and make it a bit more user friendly.

Of the parks, MK definitely is the one best served to have 2 ILLs as still plenty of G+ attractions ... So, I just don't think we can presume either way

This would definitely be the test case for having 2, so probably baby safe to say if they do movie Mine train to G+ right away then going forward likely is for only one per park no matter what
My feeling is that if they were willing to stick with 2 at MK, they would’ve kept Space as ILL until Tron opened
 

erasure fan1

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It's kind of a joke to put SM as an ILL. It only made sense when they were doing 2 everywhere IMO.
Just pretend you are Mr Krabs, then it will all make sense.

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doctornick

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My feeling is that if they were willing to stick with 2 at MK, they would’ve kept Space as ILL until Tron opened
I don’t think it really follows since (1) Tron adds capacity so it doesn’t hurt G+ relative to how it is now while switching Space to G+ improved G+ and (2) 7DMT is still relatively “new” much like RSR at DCA and high demand. I think they’d like to keep 2 ILLs at each park if they can, but they just couldn’t get G+ to work well at other WDW with that because of a lack of capacity.

I wouldn’t be surprised if they had relatively low uptake of ILL for Space and other legacy attractions that have been around. They probably think it isn’t worth it to keep on those rides but Tron/7DMT is a different combo.

I could see it going either way, but I am leaning towards they doing ILL on both at MK.
 

Bocabear

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That would make sense. At least for the first 4 to 6 months anyway. Then if demand drops, I can see them switch back to mine train. Now if I was a betting man, I would guess we start seeing them add more rides to the paid system. Especially at magic kingdom. I can easily see them having 3 attractions ILL there.
4-6 months? No...the popularity for this attraction will not wane for years... It certainly hasn't for 7 Dwarfs, and that has literally been open for 8 years...Debuted in 2014 and still mobbed everyday. The parks are starving for coasters... Every one of them should be in Lightning Lane...
 

UNCgolf

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4-6 months? No...the popularity for this attraction will not wane for years... It certainly hasn't for 7 Dwarfs, and that has literally been open for 8 years...Debuted in 2014 and still mobbed everyday. The parks are starving for coasters... Every one of them should be in Lightning Lane...

TRON and Seven Dwarfs aren't really comparable. Seven Dwarfs is a coaster that small kids can ride.

TRON is closer to Guardians, except that it will almost certainly be looked at as a disappointment compared to Guardians -- and it seems like Guardians itself isn't quite as popular as Disney hoped. Coasters like TRON just aren't that big a deal at Disney because a significant portion of guests either can't ride or aren't interested in riding.
 

DCLcruiser

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TRON and Seven Dwarfs aren't really comparable. Seven Dwarfs is a coaster that small kids can ride.

TRON is closer to Guardians, except that it will almost certainly be looked at as a disappointment compared to Guardians -- and it seems like Guardians itself isn't quite as popular as Disney hoped. Coasters like TRON just aren't that big a deal at Disney because a significant portion of guests either can't ride or aren't interested in riding.
But I am, and that's all that matters.

We need more coasters, bc I want them. EPCOT WS coasters please.
 

erasure fan1

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4-6 months? No...the popularity for this attraction will not wane for years... It certainly hasn't for 7 Dwarfs, and that has literally been open for 8 years...Debuted in 2014 and still mobbed everyday. The parks are starving for coasters... Every one of them should be in Lightning Lane...
That was more my point with the, if I was a betting man, comment. Because I believe all the big rides will be paid. Disney will wait it out for a while, then start adding ILLs and say guest demand is the reason.
 

Incomudro

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TRON and Seven Dwarfs aren't really comparable. Seven Dwarfs is a coaster that small kids can ride.

TRON is closer to Guardians, except that it will almost certainly be looked at as a disappointment compared to Guardians -- and it seems like Guardians itself isn't quite as popular as Disney hoped. Coasters like TRON just aren't that big a deal at Disney because a significant portion of guests either can't ride or aren't interested in riding.
There's nothing like Tron at the Magic Kingdom, unless we count Space Mountain - as some do.
But if we do indeed compare it to Space Mountain, then Tron's popularity will be ensured for a long, long time.
There's a shortage of thrill rides in all Disney parks, and there is a more than ample audience for them.
 

gorillaball

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TRON and Seven Dwarfs aren't really comparable. Seven Dwarfs is a coaster that small kids can ride.

TRON is closer to Guardians, except that it will almost certainly be looked at as a disappointment compared to Guardians -- and it seems like Guardians itself isn't quite as popular as Disney hoped. Coasters like TRON just aren't that big a deal at Disney because a significant portion of guests either can't ride or aren't interested in riding.

You are basing this on...?
 

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