News Tron coaster coming to the Magic Kingdom

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J4546

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When they build something this costly Im sure they plan to build more than one from the start. I wonder if it was designed in a way to be put in another park?

Regardless I think it looks fantastic and will bring a ton of life to a dead area of the park. When/if they ever do the speedway retheme that will def be awesome because the canopy is gonna be highly visible from the speedway pathway/que area
 
MagicHappens1971

MagicHappens1971

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J4546 said:
When they build something this costly Im sure they plan to build more than one from the start. I wonder if it was designed in a way to be put in another park?

Regardless I think it looks fantastic and will bring a ton of life to a dead area of the park. When/if they ever do the speedway retheme that will def be awesome because the canopy is gonna be highly visible from the speedway pathway/que area
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Pretty sure it was actually a Shanghai exclusive for 5 years so I would assume they weren’t planning on doing it anywhere else
 
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celluloid

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lazyboy97o said:
A case of Disney greed and hubris. It’s performance wasn’t so much bad as it was just not up to Disney’s unrealistic expectations. Uprising also probably would have done better on something like Disney+ instead of the middle of the night on Disney XD.
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Definitely a case of you can't set out to make a cult classic, it just happens and a sequel that was released decades later in a post Pirates (at the time trilogy) when every big budget Disney movie had to be around 200 million dollars. That peaked a few years later for John Carter of Mars with its insanely huge budget to low revenue ratio, and only Marvel now seems to get that guarantee. Tron also does not have the toy appeal that it seems like it should have. The low results of it struck similarly to Jungle Cruise Movie this year.
 
ChrisFL

ChrisFL

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lazyboy97o said:
A case of Disney greed and hubris. It’s performance wasn’t so much bad as it was just not up to Disney’s unrealistic expectations. Uprising also probably would have done better on something like Disney+ instead of the middle of the night on Disney XD.
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I really liked TRON: Legacy, but it's got one minor flaw.

Realistically it mostly covers the same scenarios as the original, but I don't think that hurts it, because they made a lot of new stuff where it feels way higher quality than the original.

Where it let me down is the big opportunity missed. The new "species" or "race" or whatever you want to call it that Quorra was part of, was only very briefly mentioned and not really shown outside of her. They could have done a lot more to establish it and grounded the whole movie into something that was beyond the re-hashing of the original scenes.

I liken this to what happened in the movie "Jaws". Some people working on Jaws, can't recall if it was Spielberg himself, stated that the scene where they're discussing old wounds and Quinn goes over his horrifying ordeal with the sinking of the U.S.S. Indianapolis, helped to give Quinn a proper revenge arc and helped the movie become more than just a monster movie.
 
Rich Brownn

Rich Brownn

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ChrisFL said:
I really liked TRON: Legacy, but it's got one minor flaw.

Realistically it mostly covers the same scenarios as the original, but I don't think that hurts it, because they made a lot of new stuff where it feels way higher quality than the original.

Where it let me down is the big opportunity missed. The new "species" or "race" or whatever you want to call it that Quorra was part of, was only very briefly mentioned and not really shown outside of her. They could have done a lot more to establish it and grounded the whole movie into something that was beyond the re-hashing of the original scenes.

I liken this to what happened in the movie "Jaws". Some people working on Jaws, can't recall if it was Spielberg himself, stated that the scene where they're discussing old wounds and Quinn goes over his horrifying ordeal with the sinking of the U.S.S. Indianapolis, helped to give Quinn a proper revenge arc and helped the movie become more than just a monster movie.
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I believe the original intention was to cover that in the sequel.
 
MisterPenguin

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Animaniac93-98 said:
Its been up in the air for a decade now. Always in development, about to happen...and then cancelled.

I believe its a Disney+ project now.
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It's still a movie... probably. Tron: Ares or Tron: Destiny...

In March 2019, co-producer Justin Springer confirmed that development on the project is ongoing; stating: "...it's about finding the right time, right script, and the right people at the studio..."[31] In June 2020 the Walt Disney Studios President of Music & Soundtracks, Mitchel Leib, stated that while the studio hopes that Kosinski will return to the franchise, the studio is currently searching for a director. He also confirmed that the intention is for Daft Punk to once again serve as composers on the film soundtrack score.[32] However, it is unknown if the duo are reported to be reprising their return to the score, due to their official breakup as a band on February 22, 2021. By July of the same year, The DisInsider provided an update on the project confirming that Leto and the cast from Tron: Legacy will co-star in the film, while stating that the company is looking at new directors.[33] In August 2020, it was announced that Garth Davis will serve as director with a script written by Jesse Wigutow. In addition to Leto's role as one of the main characters, he will serve as co-producer with Justin Springer and Emma Ludbrook.[34] Leto expressed his excitement for production, crediting the original film as well as the original video game that he played as a child as being influential in his career.​

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ToTBellHop

ToTBellHop

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UNCgolf said:
The Haunted Mansion is a great example of what I'm talking about (and it's certainly not the only one) regarding the way Disney operated in the past.

They didn't just rebuild the one from Disneyland at the Magic Kingdom because the styles didn't match. Instead, they designed a whole new facade so that it would properly fit into its surroundings. Star Tours is another example of building something new specifically to fit into Disney-MGM instead of just copying what existed at Disneyland.

That's what's missing with TRON; they didn't bother making any changes to improve the fit in its new location.
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That’s fair. It would not have been terribly costly to modify the canopy and the approach to the ride. Track layout and interior sets could have remained the same as SDL to achieve the required budget savings. After all, they already had to modify the canopy and approach a bit. They aren’t a carbon copy.

I don’t inherently mind ride clones. They make sense and you give good examples of ones that worked.
 
lazyboy97o

lazyboy97o

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ToTBellHop said:
That’s fair. It would not have been terribly costly to modify the canopy and the approach to the ride. Track layout and interior sets could have remained the same as SDL to achieve the required budget savings. After all, they already had to modify the canopy and approach a bit. They aren’t a carbon copy.

I don’t inherently mind ride clones. They make sense and you give good examples of ones that worked.
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The canopy is incredibly expensive so modifying it would have removed significant savings from lifting the design.
 
ToTBellHop

ToTBellHop

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lazyboy97o said:
The canopy is incredibly expensive so modifying it would have removed significant savings from lifting the design.
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They already had to modify its structure to accommodate the train, I’d imagine. I’d be rather surprised if the supports have identical placement as in SDL, and if they had to move supports, the structure had to be modified. Ride clones are not typically literal clones. Even the two Galaxy’s Edges are not identical in structure or aesthetic.
 
JoeCamel

JoeCamel

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ToTBellHop said:
They already had to modify its structure to accommodate the train, I’d imagine. I’d be rather surprised if the supports have identical placement as in SDL, and if they had to move supports, the structure had to be modified. Ride clones are not typically literal clones. Even the two Galaxy’s Edges are not identical in structure or aesthetic.
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Did they? Maybe thats why the choo choo is such a tight squeeze?
 
ChrisFL

ChrisFL

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lazyboy97o said:
A case of Disney greed and hubris. It’s performance wasn’t so much bad as it was just not up to Disney’s unrealistic expectations. Uprising also probably would have done better on something like Disney+ instead of the middle of the night on Disney XD.
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There were rumors that when the "Tomorrowland" movie didn't do well that Disney changed their mind on TRON 3 also, which, if true, is really short-sighted. Not all sci-fi is the same and those movies are VERY different from each other (for the record, I really enjoyed both TRON Legacy and Tomorrowland)
 
JoeCamel

JoeCamel

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ToTBellHop said:
They don’t usually leave gaps in a design just because they might need a train to pass and this wasn’t originally designed with MK in mind.
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Is it a space that is present in Shanghai? Maybe they looked and thought the train would fit in existing space or maybe it was designed that way from the start.
 

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