News Tron coaster coming to the Magic Kingdom

doctornick

Well-Known Member
Single rider line on Tron?

Anything is possible, but it has less value on rides with 2 person rows. They can fill all seats simply by grouping people by even or odd groups like in 7DMT. Of course that hasn’t stopped it from happening before at WDW.

It would make the most sense to do single rider on rides with 3 or 4 people rows like Space Mtn or Dinosaur.
 

TYOTimer

Well-Known Member
Anything is possible, but it has less value on rides with 2 person rows. They can fill all seats simply by grouping people by even or odd groups like in 7DMT. Of course that hasn’t stopped it from happening before at WDW.

It would make the most sense to do single rider on rides with 3 or 4 people rows like Space Mtn or Dinosaur.
Space Mountain “technically” has one, but you just have to tell the CM at the split you’re a single rider and they put you in the line
 

SilentWindODoom

Well-Known Member
What is unknown?
We know what it will look like...

We don't know the planned plantings unless Martin's pessimism is based on seeing the plans for this rather than past experience.

Exactly. The Magic Kingdom is - whether justified or not - viewed as WDW's flagship/representative park. If Disney wants to show the world that it's still the "crème de la crème" of the theme park world, their first priority should be a RotR-level "E+ ticket" at The Magic Kingdom.

It's been kind of mentioned elsewhere, but with Wonders of Life being a shell and so much of the World Showcase being empty in Epcot and the Studios and Animal Kingdom together have about the same amount of attractions that aren't walkthroughs/easily missable exhibits combined as Magic Kingdom. Fantasyland has about the same number of attractions that aren't just Meet and Greets as the Studios. The other parks need more.

The app really should default to the “attractions” filter instead of the “wait times” filter.

Why don't they just the time until the next show in there? Do the people behind the scenes find that too complex to keep up on? Are the show times for things like the Tiki Room regular enough that you can extrapolate a day's worth of show times, or does it fluctuate depending on how long it takes people to leave/settle in?
 

lazyboy97o

Well-Known Member
We don't know the planned plantings unless Martin's pessimism is based on seeing the plans for this rather than past experience.
“The physician can bury his mistakes,—but the architect can only advise his client to plant vines.”
-Frank Lloyd Wright

Plopping down a bunch of extra trees and bushes is not good design. Even then, that can only do so much and there will be no berm.
 

peter11435

Well-Known Member
Why don't they just the time until the next show in there? Do the people behind the scenes find that too complex to keep up on? Are the show times for things like the Tiki Room regular enough that you can extrapolate a day's worth of show times, or does it fluctuate depending on how long it takes people to leave/settle in?
This would work for things like festival of the lion king and American adventure that run at set show times, but it might be confusing for the average guests. If the next show was in 45 and the app said 45 in the little box most guests would get the wrong idea.

Attractions like the Tiki Room fluctuate way too much for that to work.
 

cheezbat

Well-Known Member
What Magic Kingdom needs to fix its capacity problems is for a 3rd castle park to be built in the US, ideally somewhere that would effectively siphon off East Coasters or Midwesterners. THAT’s how you fix it.
I know exactly where to build it....in the western corner of Walt Disney World! Build a second castle park in the resort with many of the same attractions and that’ll siphon off guests from the original MK! 😂
 

SilentWindODoom

Well-Known Member
“The physician can bury his mistakes,—but the architect can only advise his client to plant vines.”
-Frank Lloyd Wright

Plopping down a bunch of extra trees and bushes is not good design. Even then, that can only do so much and there will be no berm.

I can not argue with the the idea that additional plantings being a bandage for poor design means that they will plant no additional trees and the current view of the box is the final one. Mostly because that line of reasoning on its own is silly and nonsensical. :hilarious:
 

lazyboy97o

Well-Known Member
I can not argue with the the idea that additional plantings being a bandage for poor design means that they will plant no additional trees and the current view of the box is the final one. Mostly because that line of reasoning on its own is silly and nonsensical. :hilarious:
That’s not what I said... If you want to ignore reality that this is going to visible, that it is patterned because it will be visible, then that is your denial to hold onto. Maybe you can also hold onto hope that the other coaster box will be hidden.
 

SilentWindODoom

Well-Known Member
That’s not what I said... If you want to ignore reality that this is going to visible, that it is patterned because it will be visible, then that is your denial to hold onto. Maybe you can also hold onto hope that the other coaster box will be hidden.

The quote and point seemed a non-sequitir to the question of whether or not we know the final look. We don't unless someone has the plans. I ain't holding onto anything but a temperate calmness about this while others are doomsaying on assumption. Could be hidden. Could be not hidden.

I'm a bit tired so I'm going to skip finding the exact best line from Billy Joel's "Shades of Grey".

In the end, it's still going to be better than Rapunzel's tower being visible from Liberty Square or a giant magic lamp being visible over the rooftops of Frontierland.

EDIT: Oh! Also, what other box?
 

MisterPenguin

President of Animal Kingdom
Premium Member
Do we know what it will look like? We have a pretty good idea. Especially for those who read the thread...

Here's superimposing the site plan to Google Earth. You can see that the main bulk of the ride is on existing land. The smoker's lane is in red.

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And a 3D view from one angle...

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And another with Shanghai's building overlaid...

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While on the train, you can pretty much not see anything outside the park confines because of the treeline. Going by ground views in Google Earth Pro, it will be the same. You may be able to just catch glimpses of the top of the building through the tops of trees.

So, in the pic below, starting on the smoker's path from Storybook, you can see the ride canopy in blue (which should not be an issue to see), and you can see the building in white behind it. Just a few more trees can block that view.

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Here's the view from the Contemporary. The white outline is the big box, the blue is the canopy...

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Here's an even more disheartening view from the Contemporary...

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If that's the case, the view from outside is more like...

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Here's the outline of the ride as it exists in Shanghai overlaid from the same angle....

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And from a different angle...

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Marc Davis Fan

Well-Known Member
It's been kind of mentioned elsewhere, but with Wonders of Life being a shell and so much of the World Showcase being empty in Epcot and the Studios and Animal Kingdom together have about the same amount of attractions that aren't walkthroughs/easily missable exhibits combined as Magic Kingdom. Fantasyland has about the same number of attractions that aren't just Meet and Greets as the Studios. The other parks need more.

I agree that the other parks should have more attractions.

However, MK's high attraction amount is primarily (though not entirely) due to its A-D tickets, and IMHO, no area of MK reaches the impressiveness-level of World Showcase, Galaxy's Edge, or Pandora (or almost any of DAK).

So, if one of Disney's goals is to maintain the public perception that it is the absolute best in theme parks, and MK is the park that people associate with WDW, that goal would be furthered by ensuring that MK has a high-capacity, state-of-the-art, knock-your-socks-off E ticket or two.
 

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