Trespassing third parties

[TrainsOfDisney]

If someone told you 2 + 2 = 4, you would try to cite some obscure glitch in the matrix why it doesn't. TNC's are rideshare like Uber / Lyft. TNCs have nothing to do with taxis.

I just asked for clarification.

So WDW has the authority to tell taxi companies they can’t operate but not rideshare?

 

[King Capybara 77]

And there we have it 2+2=6

 

[flynnibus]

This is why they can operate on WDW property.

That is why they can drive the main roads erc. That is not why they are allowed at your hotel, at the TTC, or in their designated spots at the other theme parks. ( those are private property - not reedy creek properties)

 

[Fido Chuckwagon]

and not screw up a bunch of peoples vacations.

People who, in at least some cases, were forking over money to people so they could abuse the DAS system? Hard to feel that sympathetic.

 

[CAV]

That is why they can drive the main roads erc. That is not why they are allowed at your hotel, at the TTC, or in their designated spots at the other theme parks. ( those are private property - not reedy creek properties)

They are not allowed at hotels? Since when? I have been picked up and dropped off at hotels in Ubers many times.

 

[CAV]

I think they could have given prior notice. That would have given the operators time to cancel, and not screw up a bunch of peoples vacations.

Disney didn't screw up anyone's vacation. Ramon did. He made promises he couldn't keep.

 

[CAV]

I think there’s a distinction there. The law may say they can drive all around RCID (public) property, but WDW property is private property. They may have a legal ability to be there up until they cross the entry gate/property line. Then it’s up to Disney. It may make a difference between the public garages and the Disney bus loops. However, Disney has chosen to work with them so they are allowed.

You didn't read the statute, did you? Then Senator Brandes, when the law was elected, main interest was creating legislation that protected this new business segment and the consumer. The main lobbyist against it was taxi and shuttle companies.

 

[CAV]

I think there’s a distinction there. The law may say they can drive all around RCID (public) property, but WDW property is private property. They may have a legal ability to be there up until they cross the entry gate/property line. Then it’s up to Disney. It may make a difference between the public garages and the Disney bus loops. However, Disney has chosen to work with them so they are allowed.

And by the way, I am not an Uber driver. I just work at segment of the economy cited in the legislation and am responsible for enforcement. And yes, as long as the entity allows the Uber to operate, it can reasonably name pickup and dropoff locations.

 

[lazyboy97o]

They are not allowed at hotels? Since when? I have been picked up and dropped off at hotels in Ubers many times.

They do but they’re not required to under the law you cited.

 

[lewisc]

You didn't read the statute, did you? Then Senator Brandes, when the law was elected, main interest was creating legislation that protected this new business segment and the consumer. The main lobbyist against it was taxi and shuttle companies.

The law applies to government and government type entities. It certainly doesn't apply to private companies.

The law says only airports and seaports can charge extra. Uber pickups at Universal are at the top level of a garage. Fares are $4 extra.

 

[JD80]

This is the most interesting and dumbest argument I've read in months on the internet.

 

[JoeCamel]

This is the most interesting and dumbest argument I've read in months on the internet.

You must not surf much, lots stupider things on the net

 

[EeyoreFan#24]

You didn't read the statute, did you? Then Senator Brandes, when the law was elected, main interest was creating legislation that protected this new business segment and the consumer. The main lobbyist against it was taxi and shuttle companies.

I did. I’m not disputing the state is trying to protect those businesses. I’m disputing that I read it as it only applies to government agencies and doesn’t preempt private property rights.

And by the way, I am not an Uber driver. I just work at segment of the economy cited in the legislation and am responsible for enforcement. And yes, as long as the entity allows the Uber to operate, it can reasonably name pickup and dropoff locations.

I’m genuinely confused by your response. Does Disney chose to allow the entity access to their property or are they mandated by the state in your opinion?

 

[flynnibus]

They are not allowed at hotels? Since when? I have been picked up and dropped off at hotels in Ubers many times.

That’s not what i said. I said the law cited is not why they are allowed to - the reason they are allowed at the hotels is because disney chooses to allow it.

The cited law is the state’s attempt at regulating the industry and it put up barriers to ensure only the state legislation is the one to regulate it - barring other local gov entities from doing their own variations.

None of that applies to the private disney property in terms of requiring or barring access.

 

[JD80]

You must not surf much, lots stupider things on the net

I've been on the internet long enough that I curate the stupider things away easily enough.

 

[CAV]

They do but they’re not required to under the law you cited.

Who said they were required to?

 

[CAV]

The law applies to government and government type entities. It certainly doesn't apply to private companies.

The law says only airports and seaports can charge extra. Uber pickups at Universal are at the top level of a garage. Fares are $4 extra.

You read what you wanted and ignored the rest. Reedy Creek Improvement District is a local government.

 

[CAV]

I did. I’m not disputing the state is trying to protect those businesses. I’m disputing that I read it as it only applies to government agencies and doesn’t preempt private property rights.



I’m genuinely confused by your response. Does Disney chose to allow the entity access to their property or are they mandated by the state in your opinion?

You are not confused. You are willfully difficult.

 

[lewisc]

You read what you wanted and ignored the rest. Reedy Creek Improvement District is a local government.

Your point?

 

[ohioguy]

The Girl Scouts do it at Wally........

BUT... with approval. They can't just set up shop outside the doors unless the manager signs off on it