Transformative Multi-Year Expansion Announced for WDS Paris

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GoThemeparkswithDaniel

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Ok that makes sense :) I am so excited for the future of DLP. I just returned from WDW and Disneyland in California. Disney Parks are the reference in themed entertainment and so should ne Disneyland Paris for Europe. I think the direction they TWDC is taking is the right one. Let's see what they come up with.
 
cjkeating

cjkeating

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Warly said:
I don't think that this is the same money. The 2.1 billion € announced by the management was going to happen no matter the outcome of the buyout. It was also mentioned that this money will be spent over 10 yrs, making it 210 million € per year (for reference: http://www.dlptoday.com/2017/03/30/...-in-10-year-disneyland-paris-investment-plan/).

citing DLPToday:


Now the new 2 billion € announcement from TWDC will basically be spent over 6 yrs (2019 - 2025). But i have no confirmation on that matter, just thinking that an announcement of investing 2bn € in DLP would not be that much of big bang when already in March 2017 they have announced 2.1 bn € being invested in the resort :)
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Yes. I think the original investment will cover off stuff that was already in the plan such as the ongoing Phantom refurbishment, Hotel New York and Disneyland Hotel refurbishments, wifi, Magic Pass, the never ending flooring replacements and a few other things we probably never heard about. I suppose it is possible that some of the money could transfer over, for example the original 10 year plan could have included a refurbishment to the Tram Tour which will no longer occur but I don't think we'll be getting less of the original plan because of this.
 
RunningKoen

RunningKoen

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There have been a lot of refurbishment in 2015-2017, to prepare for the 25th anniversary. The park became infamous for all the green walls.

Not sure if all the 25th anniversary things are part of that budget aswell. Several new day & night time shows, a new parade, a big party on the actual 25th birthday. I'm quite sure that it's partly Disney Magic but mostly just Disney money to get all of that.
 
616.1314

616.1314

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In the Parks
Yes
Sped2424 said:
You're leaving out the fact that it's lands meaning shops and possibly other things to envelope time and attention, a new lagoon, night time show, marvel is replacing more than just RNRC. As for Galaxy's edge we aren't completly aware if this is a lite version yet.

So in reality

DHS
Falcon
Battle Escape
A.S.S.
Slinky
Mickey

WDSP
Falcon
Frozen Dark Ride
Possible Frozen flat ride (like the sled spinners assuming it's a clone of the HK land)
A.S.S.
RNRC retheme
Possible marvel ride replacing other attractions
Night Time Show in the lagoon
New Parade
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Well I guess Wandering Oaken's Dancing Sleighs (HKDL's Frozen Land Flat Ride) would be similar to A.S.S. in nature.
So if WDS is building A.S.S. then it's less likely for them to build the Sleighs.

If you compare and contrast WDS's Arendelle concept rendering with HK's
there are quite a few differences
- HK's Elsa's Ice Palace is a lot smaller than WDS's: HK's ice palace seems to be similar to the Beast's castle in Be Our Guess Restaurant, just a tiny replica. But WDS's version seems to be 1:1 and it's built on top of a rocky mountain. So is it possible that it's going to be a coaster around the mountain?
- HK's Arendelle castle also looks smaller than WDS's: Again WDS's Arendelle is going to be 1:1 while HK's will only be of the same size with Sleeping Beauty Castle. So I guess WDS's Arendelle castle may house a dark ride or a theatre show.
 
Next Big Thing

Next Big Thing

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616.1314 said:
But there are rumours (in HK fans site) speculating that HK's FEA will use Shanghai's Pirates' boat system
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The boat system doesn't matter if they don't change the ride to match it.

For example of how ride vehicle doesn't matter, look no further than Antarctica: Empire of the Penguin. Uses LPS (trackless) technology, but it matters little because the ride itself is lame. They need to go all out like SHDL did for it to work.
 
Sped2424

Sped2424

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616.1314 said:
Well I guess Wandering Oaken's Dancing Sleighs (HKDL's Frozen Land Flat Ride) would be similar to A.S.S. in nature.
So if WDS is building A.S.S. then it's less likely for them to build the Sleighs.

If you compare and contrast WDS's Arendelle concept rendering with HK's
there are quite a few differences
- HK's Elsa's Ice Palace is a lot smaller than WDS's: HK's ice palace seems to be similar to the Beast's castle in Be Our Guess Restaurant, just a tiny replica. But WDS's version seems to be 1:1 and it's built on top of a rocky mountain. So is it possible that it's going to be a coaster around the mountain?
- HK's Arendelle castle also looks smaller than WDS's: Again WDS's Arendelle is going to be 1:1 while HK's will only be of the same size with Sleeping Beauty Castle. So I guess WDS's Arendelle castle may house a dark ride or a theatre show.
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I Suggest you look at the Hong Kong concept again. As it is very much in line with the WDS version. In fact the hongkong one might have more space within the land if we are to take this wds piece for face value.
 
Sped2424

Sped2424

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Arendelle Castle is fully operational and from the concept art one can assume it's housing a meet and greet or something along those lines. The north mountain identical to the WDSP verison is to the left of the castle and Elsa's ice castle is like the beasts castle forced perspective in both verisons. It's most definitely not a 1 to 1. Rest assured from all pieces of evidence the WDSP is a clone of the hk land. Possibly without the sled attraction.
 
douglasrickard

douglasrickard

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Sped2424 said:
I Suggest you look at the Hong Kong concept again. As it is very much in line with the WDS version. In fact the hongkong one might have more space within the land if we are to take this wds piece for face value.
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Possibly true. But then again the people are quite large compared to the HKDL mountain and that could maybe, be forced perspective like the Magic Kingdom "Beauty and the Beast" castle? Whereas that mountain in the Paris concept art definitely looks... big lol.
 
Sped2424

Sped2424

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douglasrickard said:
Possibly true. But then again the people are quite large compared to the HKDL mountain and that could maybe, be forced perspective like the Magic Kingdom "Beauty and the Beast" castle? Whereas that mountain in the Paris concept art definitely looks... big lol.
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I think the Paris mountain is off for concept reasons given it has to stand out all the way in the back image. I see no reason for the mountain and castle to be bigger and everything else be the same!
 
douglasrickard

douglasrickard

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Sped2424 said:
I think the Paris mountain is off for concept reasons given it has to stand out all the way in the back image. I see no reason for the mountain and castle to be bigger and everything else be the same!
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I've just looked again at Paris compared to HKDL and with the Paris art, we're very high up and very far back from the WDS park and with the HKDL art we're not viewing from as far out, above the entire park.
Although the actual ice palace will probably be forced perspective, the mountain is going to be at the center of the park unlike HKDL which is in the corner right (?) and that HKDL park will already have something amazing in the center in its castle.
It actually reminds me of the Paramount Park London concept art with their mountain view-able from the Paramount arch up front. I think they may make this mountain really big and something seen from everywhere. Not only does the Paris mountain have to stand out all the way in the back image, would it not be needed to stand out in the back of the physical park too maybe?
 
Timothy_Q

Timothy_Q

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douglasrickard said:
Although the actual ice palace will probably be forced perspective, the mountain is going to be at the center of the park unlike HKDL which is in the corner right (?) and that HKDL park will already have something amazing in the center in its castle.
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Elsa's castle will also be perfectly centered in HKD, overlooking Fantasyland, behind the train tracks

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fradz

fradz

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Hi everyone,

Some updates on previously disclosed information:
* Marvel: it seems like in the first transformation phase of Backlot to Marvel, Stunt Show will stay and be transformed into a Marvel Stunt show. So no HK E-Ticket for 2020.
* DLP E-Ticket: Sources say "95% sure to be for Adventureland", and it will be between a boat ride or an EMV. (My personnal bet is some kind of Indiana Jones Adventure v2). We should know more within weeks
 
douglasrickard

douglasrickard

Active Member
fradz said:
Hi everyone,

Some updates on previously disclosed information:
* Marvel: it seems like in the first transformation phase of Backlot to Marvel, Stunt Show will stay and be transformed into a Marvel Stunt show. So no HK E-Ticket for 2020.
* DLP E-Ticket: Sources say "95% sure to be for Adventureland", and it will be between a boat ride or an EMV. (My personnal bet is some kind of Indiana Jones Adventure v2). We should know more within weeks
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I wonder if that leaves the possibility of a bigger E-ticket for Arendelle. It's all very exciting and I guess the stunt show can be transformed even sooner now.
(I always seem to get a bit lost in Adventureland with all those paths!) Thanks for the updates! No Moana coaster I guess but maybe an indoor Jungle Cruise?! And does EMV stand for Enhanced Motion Vehicle? Is that what's used in Indiana Jones in California?
 

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