Toy Story Land expansion announced for Disney's Hollywood Studios

Goofy213

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It has taken it has taken Cedar Point over 17 months to disassemble, and rebuild their Mean Streak coaster, and turn it into the best coaster on the planet Steel Vengeance (still not crazy about that name). The track replacement was finished in October and the trains still aren't on the track, no testing has yet to begin and opening day is in May. Cedar Point does little to no theming, so IMO Disney with their theming skills, is doing pretty good. Grant it the Ohio winters are a little more harsh (almost tundra like) than Florida's, but they have multiple construction projects going on compared to one. Ultimately overlapping opening schedules are the main criteria here, but who can blame them, look at the crowd surge they saw from Pandora. I'm sure as popular as Toy Story is TSL will not see the crowds as the visually stunning Pandora did, but add in some updated hotels, a new cable car system, and new venues at Disney Springs and the year of the Toy will hold it's own until the War in the Stars takes over. Sorry for the rant, just felt like chimming in. Thanks for Reading.
 

smile

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not sure comparing the mean steak transformation to installing a mack launch kiddie coaster is going to get you too far, but you're right, it has taken a while... it's also pretty amazing, to me, that rmc does that at all - as well as they do. it's also true the shores of erie in the dead of winter are some folks version of hell - hard to get much accomplished then. thanks for sharing.

the business angle shows there's seemingly negligible consequence, but from a strictly guest satisfaction and/or operations perspective, it blows
 

Goofyernmost

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not sure comparing the mean steak transformation to installing a mack launch kiddie coaster is going to get you too far, but you're right, it has taken a while... it's also pretty amazing, to me, that rmc does that at all - as well as they do. it's also true the shores of erie in the dead of winter are some folks version of hell - hard to get much accomplished then. thanks for sharing.

the business angle shows there's seemingly negligible consequence, but from a strictly guest satisfaction and/or operations perspective, it blows
It seems quite obvious to me that it didn't take long to build the coaster. Why would it, but, attempting to detail the hell out of the place, as is required by all Disney Park lovers, does take time. Whole picture approach.
 

lazyboy97o

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Cedar Point does little to no theming, so IMO Disney with their theming skills, is doing pretty good. Grant it the Ohio winters are a little more harsh (almost tundra like) than Florida's, but they have multiple construction projects going on compared to one.
Despite repeated insistence otherwise, Toy Story Land is repeating an aesthetic that has been done several times before and is not very intricate. Multiple construction projects is also not a valid excuse. If anything Disney projects have too many people involved, not too few, leading to their issues of cost and decision making.
 

marni1971

Park History nut
Premium Member
It seems quite obvious to me that it didn't take long to build the coaster. Why would it, but, attempting to detail the hell out of the place, as is required by all Disney Park lovers, does take time. Whole picture approach.
SWL will be "detailed to hell". TSL will not. It’ll be pretty but hardly Mysterious Island quality. Or Avland. Or DLP.
 
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smile

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It seems quite obvious to me that it didn't take long to build the coaster. Why would it, but, attempting to detail the hell out of the place, as is required by all Disney Park lovers, does take time. Whole picture approach.

even though the project had been scaled back, installing a giant jessie can still certainly elongate the process, as opposed to not, but it can also be apparently acceptable cover for the real reasons

Whole picture approach.

and in only doing precisely that can one see where a particular piece fits into a puzzle far larger than a particular land in a particular park
 

Goofyernmost

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Then the real question is, why shut down Backlot Tour so long before it was necessary?
Because it was a joke. There was nothing to see, no place to go and just taking up space like it had since they took out any charade that it was an active studio. It was better off just sitting there then being the embarrassment that it was. In other words who cares how long it was closed. In fact, I think that they knew that they were going to replace it with something (probably TSL) but, when they started to question where they were going to put SWL all movement was halted until those final decisions were made.
 

danlb_2000

Premium Member
Because it was a joke. There was nothing to see, no place to go and just taking up space like it had since they took out any charade that it was an active studio. It was better off just sitting there then being the embarrassment that it was. In other words who cares how long it was closed. In fact, I think that they knew that they were going to replace it with something (probably TSL) but, when they started to question where they were going to put SWL all movement was halted until those final decisions were made.

Yeah, it wasn't the greatest attraction, but people still went on it, so there was no good reason to close it until they actually needed the land.,
 

sunsetblvd26

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Yeah, it wasn't the greatest attraction, but people still went on it, so there was no good reason to close it until they actually needed the land.,
The only thing I can think of was the need for relocating a lot of the stuff that was there, but even still it seemed like an unnecessary large amount of time.
 

Movielover

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Yeah, it wasn't the greatest attraction, but people still went on it, so there was no good reason to close it until they actually needed the land.,

In my opinion the Backlot Tour was dead long before they closed it. As a film buff and film student it was one of my favorite attractions when I first went in the early 90's. I remember going back in the 2000's and just feeling sad at the state it was in.
 

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