Tomorrowland Overhaul Speculation

[Simon83079]

Theory Time.

So recently we have seen MAJOR changes to Walt Disney Worlds’ and Disneyland’s Tomorrowland theme with WDW’s Appearing to be reverting back to opening day style and Disneyland to a similar style with the grey and white colours. But the question is, are they actually reverting to the past? My theory is they are only borrowing elements from the past. Recently with the new Disneyland Tomorrowland entrance being redone we have seen a return of white spires, But also orange and blue flower beds. Now this colour scheme is very reminiscent of the 2015 Tomorrowland movie logo and style. So my theory is that we are indeed seeing elements of past Tomorrowlands being used but a new overall style of the 2015 movie. A lot of curves, a lot of white but also a lot of colour via lighting and nature. I believe we may see a major tomorrowland closure in the future (probs delayed due to covid-19 profit loss) in which we will see the removal of the astro orbitor to a newly themed Jet pack ride with a new and improved but perhaps shorter Peoplemover track with newly advanced tech like WDW’s with a visual style to something we could see out of tron perhaps. I believe Star Tours may at some point be moved considering that star tours now has a full land dedicated to it. To which I believe there is an expansion pad where I feel they could move Star Tours. I believe Innovations may remain as its a useful area to advertise different kind of movies in and such. Buzz Lightyear I feel maybe upgraded to that of the shanghai kind. And the overall theme of tomorrowland to be given an attempt to feel timeless in that of the 60s and 70s future ideas.

 

[Phroobar]

Theory Time.

So recently we have seen MAJOR changes to Walt Disney Worlds’ and Disneyland’s Tomorrowland theme with WDW’s Appearing to be reverting back to opening day style and Disneyland to a similar style with the grey and white colours. But the question is, are they actually reverting to the past? My theory is they are only borrowing elements from the past. Recently with the new Disneyland Tomorrowland entrance being redone we have seen a return of white spires, But also orange and blue flower beds. Now this colour scheme is very reminiscent of the 2015 Tomorrowland movie logo and style. So my theory is that we are indeed seeing elements of past Tomorrowlands being used but a new overall style of the 2015 movie. A lot of curves, a lot of white but also a lot of colour via lighting and nature. I believe we may see a major tomorrowland closure in the future (probs delayed due to covid-19 profit loss) in which we will see the removal of the astro orbitor to a newly themed Jet pack ride with a new and improved but perhaps shorter Peoplemover track with newly advanced tech like WDW’s with a visual style to something we could see out of tron perhaps. I believe Star Tours may at some point be moved considering that star tours now has a full land dedicated to it. To which I believe there is an expansion pad where I feel they could move Star Tours. I believe Innovations may remain as its a useful area to advertise different kind of movies in and such. Buzz Lightyear I feel maybe upgraded to that of the shanghai kind. And the overall theme of tomorrowland to be given an attempt to feel timeless in that of the 60s and 70s future ideas.

Too simple and not enough new rides. I would rather see something totally different that reflects tomorrow better. See my version of smaller Epcot Futureworld complete with Horizons 2.0, Seabase Delta with underwater coaster, volcano and other vital topics in this thread. Think bigger and not overlay.

 

[ᗩLᘿᑕ ✨ ᗩζᗩᗰ]

Too simple and not enough new rides. I would rather see something totally different that reflects tomorrow better. See my version of smaller Epcot Futureworld complete with Horizons 2.0, Seabase Delta with underwater coaster, volcano and other vital topics in this thread. Think bigger and not overlay.

Too grandiose and not realistic enough for Today's Disney. Most armchair attempts in this thread are more realistic than anything you're proposing. Sounds ambitious and costly. I like the armchair though! My theory is that Tomorrowland will continue to lack an identity or singular theme. Cynical, perhaps? But I think it's more realistic now that everything's been seemingly back-burned.

 

[Phroobar]

Too grandiose and not realistic enough for Today's Disney. Most armchair attempts in this thread are more realistic than anything you're proposing. Sounds ambitious and costly. I like the armchair though! My theory is that Tomorrowland will continue to lack an identity or singular theme. Cynical, perhaps? But I think it's more realistic now that everything's been seemingly back-burned.

Why does my imagination have to be limited by Disney's bean counters? If your going to overhaul the place at least have more imagination than "put it back to 1970's Tomorrowland". I was at 1970's tomorrowland. It wasn't that great.

 

[ᗩLᘿᑕ ✨ ᗩζᗩᗰ]

Why does my imagination have to be limited by Disney's bean counters? If your going to overhaul the place at least have more imagination than "put it back to 1970's Tomorrowland". I was at 1970's tomorrowland. It wasn't that great.

It doesn't. But this is a speculation thread not an armchair thread.

 

[Phroobar]

It doesn't. But this is a speculation thread not an armchair thread.

Hense the reason for thinking big. If you're going to think small, at least think differently.

 

[ᗩLᘿᑕ ✨ ᗩζᗩᗰ]

Hense the reason for thinking big.

Speculate about what could happen not what you'd like to happen; that's for a different section of the forum. I agree that Tomorrowland could use an injection of imagination vs more botox filler. Didn't mean to rain on your parade just trying to keep it grounded, especially now.

 

[Phroobar]

Speculate about what could happen not what you'd like to happen; that's for a different section of the forum. I agree that Tomorrowland could use an injection of imagination vs more botox filler. Didn't mean to rain on your parade just trying to keep it grounded, especially now.

Keep it grounded especially now? Give me a break. You're lack of imagination is disturbing.

Sorry but that isn't how I would do things. I will continue to come up with ideas about how it should be built and poopoo any idea that amounts to make it 1970's tomorrowland with more flowers. I suggest you think bigger too. Disney has shown in the past they can do better and we should too.

 

[ᗩLᘿᑕ ✨ ᗩζᗩᗰ]

Keep it grounded especially now? Give me a break. You're lack of imagination is disturbing.

Sorry but that isn't how I would do things. I will continue to come up with ideas about how it should be built and poopoo any idea that amounts to make it 1970's tomorrowland with more flowers. I suggest you think bigger too. Disney has shown in the past they can do better and we should too.

It's not about how you would do things. It's how Disney would do things. Using one's own "imagination" isn't a factor. Said all I'm going to say on the subject.

 

[Phroobar]

It's not about how you would do things. It's how Disney would do things. Using one's own "imagination" isn't a factor. Said all I'm going to say on the subject.

What are you the cops? So, don't use your imagination. Come up with a version that is a cheap and unimaginative as possible. Got it.

 

[Phroobar]

Disney still does things big. See recent projects like Galaxy's Edge and Carsland. To assume Disney would cheap out and add some paint and flowers and retheme a ride in Tomorrowland is stupid. They already did that. I'm assuming they will do something better than that. I have more faith in them having a bigger imagination than your cynical point of view.

 

[George Lucas on a Bench]

I wouldn't be surprised if they didn't even finish the Tomorrowland reentry and just left the grass at this point.

 

[No Name]

But the question is, are they actually reverting to the past?

One of the goals of Tomorrowland ‘94 on the east coast was to make it so unlikely that it’s timeless, and in my opinion, it’s kind of been successful. 26 years later and it still evokes a futuristic vibe, especially at night. People on the other side of the forum keep hoping for a full renovation of the land, but that’s not going to happen because it’s not needed. On the other hand, the Epcot changes in the 90s became very dated, and now they’re spending hundreds of millions renovating Future World, which will look dated again sometime in the future. Or at the pace they go, it’ll look dated by the time they finish.

Anyway, DL’s Tomorrowland is a little worse off because Frank Wells had died, Paul Pressler had risen, they botched it by pouring bronze paint all over everything, but they salvaged it a bit in the early-mid 2000s. I think they may be going more toward a Walt’s 50s vision of the future here, which is actually timeless, because Walt’s vision of the future can’t change. The dude is dead! And it’s arguably more interesting than a current vision of tomorrow. Just like Walt’s dated and naive version of the frontier is better suited for the park than any alternative.

We shall see. They tore up the center of Epcot and then coronavirus happened, so now it’s a mess. They have to finish what they started in some form before they even think about moving dirt on a projects like Tomorrowland here, so I don’t expect changes to happen for a while.

 

[George Lucas on a Bench]

I honestly like what they did at the WDW Tomorrowland in the 90s. It's everything they've done since the renovation that sucks. The replaced sign, the added sci-fi architectural elements and such looked cool. Now, reverting to the boring old aesthetics. The old Tomorrowland didn't look good. It was white buildings.

The concepts for the redone Future World at Epcot are better for Tomorrowland.

 

[No Name]

Neon lights are cool.

 

[George Lucas on a Bench]

I miss Rocket Rods even though I never went on it.

 

[Disneyland/DCA]

The neon rocket rod was the best one. As a child, I naively anticipated all the rods getting the same treatment in different colors.

 

[DanielBB8]

Rumors previous to the Coronanavirus event is the People Mover tracks will be demolished. I suppose this is delayed indefinitely. I hope they will do a major demo of it along with the Rocket Jets platform. Innoventions is wasted space. It is always barely attended even in it newest incarnation as Star Wars meet and greets. Rumors are the submarines is going away and it's not getting maintenance. This shutdown could prove it won't return with it's excessive down time. Autopia has Honda as it's major sponsor so it can stay, but Disney is well known to break contracts when it's expedient.

Then there's Star Tours that could go away for a replacement now that Galaxy's Edge is finished with Rise of Resistance and there's no new movie to promote in Star Tours after the release of Rise of Skywalker. Buzz Lightyear could go away if Disney decides DCA with Pixar Pier is the only place for Pixar IP.

This leaves Space Mountain as the only surviving Tomorrowland attraction.

Hopefully Tron will be fitted in as a new attraction, but certainly with major alteration to fit in the space better. Or there's always another possibility of fitting in Epcot's Guardians spinning roller coaster, but with a different IP. Of course, the Guardians roller coasters can also go in DCA in Superheroes Land.

Stitch's Great Escape is closed and will be replaced at Magic Kingdom's Tomorrowland. Will a clone be proposed for our Tomorrowland?

 

[Phroobar]

Rumors previous to the Coronanavirus event is the People Mover tracks will be demolished. I suppose this is delayed indefinitely.

That rumor is been going on for twenty years. I guess someday it will be correct.

Rumors are the submarines is going away and it's not getting maintenance. This shutdown could prove it won't return with it's excessive down time.

That is more of a fan wish/rumor than anything real. Just like any other ride, I'm sure it gets the prescribed amount of maintenance it needs. I also don't believe it has excessive downtime. I believe Disney removing it is about as likely as the Matterhorn falling into the sub lagoon when they drain it for repaints.

 

[Ismael Flores]

That is more of a fan wish/rumor than anything real. Just like any other ride, I'm sure it gets the prescribed amount of maintenance it needs. I also don't believe it has excessive downtime. I believe Disney removing it is about as likely as the Matterhorn falling into the sub lagoon when they drain it for repaints.

It will be interesting how they handle this attraction if and when they open it after the closer.

The attraction already has a low capacity and slow loading time. It is an enclosed small room and people need to hold on to railings going up and down the stairs and Seats are tightly packed as well. I wonder if it would even open for a while.