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Tokyo Disneyland Resort Expansion
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ThemeParkTraveller
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Stunning. And bigger then Disneyland’s castle
I think even Frozen's Arendelle castle will be bigger than Disneyland's castle.
ParkPeeker
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I don't like the mountains
But this castle surrounded by forest is just gorgeous
... is that a daydreaming emoji? whatever I just made it one
But this castle surrounded by forest is just gorgeous
... is that a daydreaming emoji? whatever I just made it one
CraftyFox
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The hotel designs I have seen so far are very... worrying. It’s clear that they are going for a kind of over-the-top Art Nouveau look but the massing and the scale really ruin it for me. The Mocktorian hotel at TDL also suffers this issue. It’s overall just too big and clunky to look elegant. It seems like they’re just sticking turrets and balconies wherever it fits to try and add extra detail. Adding detail does not necessarily equal a more architecturally interesting building.
Is this concept art new?
ThemeParkTraveller
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Yeah, that's an issue with all new Disney hotels unfortunately. It's been a long time since they've designed a truly cohesive and period appropriate hotel building (the MiraCosta was probably the last and greatest). I do hope they've reworked the exterior since that concept art. For an in-park hotel, the building design is even more important.
lazyboy97o
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This is why ornament should not be considered synonymous with detail. Glomming on a bunch stuff is not necessarily adding detail.
RandySavage
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Since I usually agree with you, I'm curious about what you mean by "aging poorly". MK's ought to be aging well, as the landscape matures and trees grow. Do you mean maintenance-wise? Small additions or subtractions (e.g. adding TV screens to the SDMT queue)? Attractions getting stale?
From what I'm seeing (we don't know how well the attractions are executed in Tokyo yet) , each has its strengths, and I'd put Tokyo & MK New Fantasylands in the same league, environmentally. (That's a pretty good league, IMO, as I've been pleased with MK's.)
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Almost all of Under the Seas' queue is leaking from many places in the ceiling. That queue takes up a huge amount of space and is almost always mostly empty.
BoG sill has horrible force perspective (plantings haven't helped). And the prettiest part... the river, is almost un-viewable because of the giant cement fencing of the bridge.
The free-standing-parapets to nowhere are sill cement eyesores on a cement plain doing nothing.
Only 7DMT looks nice and is a nice family coaster (I'm not going to grade it on a curve of what it could have been based on a one-time design plan).
And the evening lighting package is non-existent, as in, almost no lighting at all. TSL, Pandora, and SWL are all beautiful at night. NFL is invisible.
RandySavage
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Those are major assets, not eyesores, in my opinion. They visually extend Cinderella Castle to the rear of the land. They separate/transition the rural forest of New from the urban townscape of Old. And they are miles more coherent than Tokyo's Old Fantasyland -> Toontown -> New Fantasyland transition.
I also was fine with the restrained night lighting (except the storage room lights below the SDMT drop that were for some reason visible and bright), the darkness was a welcome change from some now-overlit-for-safety areas of MK. And the castle perspective wasn't nearly as bad as I had heard about.
Animaniac93-98
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The whole thing, aside from maybe the Main Train, would never be built if they decided to make it today, or even 5 years later than they did. I say that in terms of both IP content and attraction line up.
Keeping the 1988 Birthdayland tents? Building a Beauty and the Beast cafeteria with a mini golf course castle? A Belle meet and greet "show" with terrible capacity? A Little Mermaid D-ticket that had to be reworked to make it passable? A whole Tangled area with only toilets? A tiny gift shop and tavern wedged next to the Mermaid ride? Casey Jr's only a play area for toddlers?
It's was a huge project (in terms of money and acreage) that in comparison to Fantasy Springs now looks like a giant wasted opportunity. The "forest" will never grow in properly because of how wide the pathways were designed. Frozen got dumped into Epcot instead of being here where it truly belongs. There's no true E-ticket replacement for 20,000 Leagues. The transition between areas (Beast, Mermaid, Forest, old Fantasyland) is lacking, and they never did replace the teacups roof. Then there was the side project of replacing a dark ride with a meet n greet after the Aurora and Cinderella ones were scrapped part-way through construction.
Only Mine Train is decent, and even it is shorter than it should have been. A common complaint even among its fans.
Capacity, ambition, scale, scope, NFL is far less than it could have been. More recent projects only emphasize this.
ThemeParkTraveller
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Even more sad when you consider that NFL was WDW's supposed answer to Potter at Universal.
britain
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SweetDuffy101
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Breaking : Theres going to be a new rail route from Haneda airport directly to the House of Mouse.
www.japantimes.co.jp
New train route eyed between Haneda Airport and Tokyo Disney Resort
East Japan Railway Co. is considering opening a new route linking Haneda Airport to the Tokyo Disney Resort, sources said Saturday.
www.japantimes.co.jp
ThemeParkTraveller
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Thought this discussion would be a better fit here. There is speculation that there could be a Mermaid Lagoon expansion after Fantasy Springs. Ariel's Greeting Grotto is closing this year after almost 20 years of operation, which some are saying is an indicator that they plan to use the expansion pad directly behind it for a new attraction (it would either be for the Little Mermaid or Aladdin based on its location).
ThemeParkTraveller
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There is supposed to be a new CEP in the backstage area of Fantasy Springs. Whether that will act as a replacement or supplement is still undetermined though.
Robbiem
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If they did do this I’d like to see an Aladdin magic carpet dark ride. as well as being a unique ride it would also balance out fantasy springs with its more princess heavy line up
ThemeParkTraveller
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It is quite surprising how little presence Aladdin (the character) has in Arabian Coast despite being the titular character of the film the port is based on.
Rich Brownn
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Ironically a magic carpet ride was supposed to be part of EPCOT's never build (thank goodness!) Iran pavilion