Today's O-Town Sentinel ...

[WDW1974]

He's not being helpful in trying to find it. Like TWDC would actually try to get an article 'removed' in this day and age. Google indexes instantly.

I would think that if you have to type in the first graph to get something to come up, then it has been effectively scrubbed from the 'net. Who is going to do that? The only person that could do so would be someone that has a hard copy in front of them and knows it exists and that it somehow isn't coming up on orlandosentinel.com (even when you do searches) and other Trib Co sister sites.

This is APOLITICAL. When any company goes beyond influencing the message to silence the messenger, it is major news.

TWDC operates a rather significant news division itself (JT love them, I hear) ... I am simply asking folks if they have a hard copy and have been able to search and locate without using the hard copy. As again, in using the hard copy this defeats the whole purpose of it being news to people. I learned of this rather disturbing matter when I went to simply email a link to several friends who share a common interest. It was as if the story didn't exist. That hasn't changed folks.

Oh, and someone I know has contacted both the Orlando Sentinel and the Sun Sentinel and hasn't received any response from them yet. I know, it's Sunday ... they're all at EPCOT Center.

 

[WDW1974]

Can we at least get a photo of the story in question in dead-tree form?

I have someone who is going to scan it in late this evening.

 

[WDW1974]

Since you seemed unaware that those rights don't extend to a private online forum, I thought I would let you know.

No, you just wanted to put me in my 'place' as you see it and get this thread closed. Do you work for Disney? Or are you just someone who can't stand to see them under the microscope?

The article (or articles) in question is political in nature. There's not much that could be discussed about the content of the article without the discussion becoming political in nature... which is not allowed on the forums.

When did I ever say I wanted to discuss the article? I started the thread because I was unable to LOCATE the story and still am at the Sentinel site. And when did you become the arbiter of what can be discussed here? Another poster has been apparently on an all day tear because he is unhappy with the way ABC News presented the Tea Party in a story on the slaughter in Colorado and those posts are up, and you aren't playing thread police there, are you?

Once more, this thread is about locating a story that should be easily accessible to anyone in the world with a 'net connection, but it can't be found apparently and, thus far, the writers and editors of said article are refusing to state why that is.

And based on the multiple articles on the subject that other posters have found, it seems as though it hasn't been removed from the internet as you are claiming.

No one has found the story that was in today's paper. I don't care that older stories have been located. They are irrelevant.

 

[nepalostparks]

No one has found the story that was in today's paper. I don't care that older stories have been located. They are irrelevant.

Of course it's relevant. You are suggesting that Disney is somehow hiding news article about how they spend their money in reference to politics. Several posters have provided recent articles that are online that deal with that very subject. It's possible the article in question hasn't made it online. Not every article that appears in print makes it a newspaper's website, and vice versa. You are looking for a conspiracy where one probably doesn't exist.

 

[WDW1974]

Of course it's relevant. You are suggesting that Disney is somehow hiding news article about how they spend their money in reference to politics. Several posters have provided recent articles that are online that deal with that very subject. It's possible the article in question hasn't made it online. Not every article that appears in print makes it a newspaper's website, and vice versa. You are looking for a conspiracy where one probably doesn't exist.

Dude, I know you'll play all night, so you're welcome to the last word as I have things to do.

It's very simple. You want to prove to me that I am somehow mistaken and the story is out there and readily available on the Sentinel's website?

Find me the story. The writers are Jason Garcia and Aaron Deslatte. Tallahassee byline.

Otherwise, you can talk to others because I'm not going back and forth with you in a urinating contest ... find me the story and PM me the link. Thanks!

 

[El Grupo]

I'm curious. If an article does exist in hard copy, but is not on the internet, how can it be proven that Disney is responsible for the article not being posted?

I can surmise. But, w/o evidence, it is only speculation.

 

[nepalostparks]

Dude, I know you'll play all night, so you're welcome to the last word as I have things to do.

It's very simple. You want to prove to me that I am somehow mistaken and the story is out there and readily available on the Sentinel's website?

Find me the story. The writers are Jason Garcia and Aaron Deslatte. Tallahassee byline.

Otherwise, you can talk to others because I'm not going back and forth with you in a urinating contest ... find me the story and PM me the link. Thanks!

I'm not google, you are more than welcome to spend the time searching yourself.

Obviously you didn't bother to read my post which you quoted. I didn't say you were mistaken about it being online. It may not be.... but that doesn't mean much, as I noted above, not every story from a print edition of a newspaper makes it online, and not every online article makes it to a print edition.

But in typical forum troll tactics, you ignore the facts and logic, and feign disinterest. Not surprising in the least.

 

[Monty]

Print newspapers do not publish every article that is printed in hard copy to the internet. But because '74 can't find one article, it is the omnipotent Disney machine scrubbing unwanted info from the internet... Because it couldn't possibly be that it simply wasn't published to the internet in the first place.

 

[WDWFigment]

Here are the only things I could find, but I don't think they're what you're looking for given that they're the wrong date and/or the wrong writer(s):
http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/07/21/v-fullstory/2905553/casino-giant-gentings-political.html
http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/ne...ney-fpl-geo-group-assorted-mbillionaires.html

I'm curious to see the scan, sounds interesting.

I would mention how excited I am for tonight's Breaking Bad here, but it's a television show that focuses on meth production and, by extension, the War on Drugs, so that's probably far too political for some of the self-appointed moderators here!

 

[The Mom]

When did I ever say I wanted to discuss the article? I started the thread because I was unable to LOCATE the story and still am at the Sentinel site. And when did you become the arbiter of what can be discussed here? Another poster has been apparently on an all day tear because he is unhappy with the way ABC News presented the Tea Party in a story on the slaughter in Colorado and those posts are up, and you aren't playing thread police there, are you?

If someone would report it, it would be dealt with. Moderators don't read every single thread.

 

[c-one]

I'm curious. If an article does exist in hard copy, but is not on the internet, how can it be proven that Disney is responsible for the article not being posted?

I can surmise. But, w/o evidence, it is only speculation.

This is my concern as well. Considering that there are other articles about Disney's political involvement circulating around the web, coupled with the Sentinel's hopelessly outdated, old-fashioned, what's-the-internet line of thinking...

 

[HMF]

Disney is pouring money into political campaigns? Sigh, That really depresses me both considering the state of WDW and the corporate invasion of politics. I feel it is in Disney's best interest to stay out of politics because no matter which way they lean they might offend some of their customers.

 

[jt04]

Well, well, well just look at you people. Just look at you. Actually believing Disney would scrub stories from the interwebz that cast negative publicity on the house of mouse.

What a buch of conspiracy nuts! Really folks, get a grip.

And the way you run around getting 74's scotch and slippers is humiliating just to watch!

I will only say this once but I actually enjoy watching 74s antics sometimes. Close as I will ever get to praising that spirit.

It is a hoot. That is what it is. A real hoot!

 

[flynnibus]

Disney is pouring money into political campaigns? Sigh, That really depresses me both considering the state of WDW and the corporate invasion of politics. I feel it is in Disney's best interest to stay out of politics because no matter which way they lean they might offend some of their customers.

You can't be a fortune 500 company without being in politics to some degree. It's just part of the game. From property issues, taxation issues, regulation, and in cases like Disney.. Tourism, advertising, etc.. you must be involved with at least your local and state politicians. The company doesn't live in a bubble.

 

[El Grupo]

Disney is pouring money into political campaigns? Sigh, That really depresses me both considering the state of WDW and the corporate invasion of politics. I feel it is in Disney's best interest to stay out of politics because no matter which way they lean they might offend some of their customers.

I suspect it would be difficult (or impossible) to find any major corporation that does not selectively contribute to politicians that will help their cause. We subsidize the efforts of all these companies by purchasing their products. And none really want this publicized.

Per a Bloomberg article, Comcast’s political action committee became the sixth biggest-spending contributor for 2010 candidates among corporations. Ninety-one of the 99 House members and three of the five senators who wrote the FCC urging support for the $28 billion (NBC Universal) merger received donations from Comcast in the election cycle that began Jan. 1, 2009, sometimes within days of the letters.

Not trying to pick on Comcast. It's just an example of the way it is in the entertainment industry. My guess is that the issue is far more prevalent in other industries.

 

[xdan0920]

Well, well, well just look at you people. Just look at you. Actually believing Disney would scrub stories from the interwebz that cast negative publicity on the house of mouse.

What a buch of conspiracy nuts! Really folks, get a grip.

And the way you run around getting 74's scotch and slippers is humiliating just to watch!

I will only say this once but I actually enjoy watching 74s antics sometimes. Close as I will ever get to praising that spirit.

It is a hoot. That is what it is. A real hoot!

Didn't Disney scrub all the DUI stories about PI?

 

[Timekeeper]

Didn't Disney scrub all the DUI stories about PI?

That sounds like the related urban legend; that Disney "bought" the rights to footage from COPS that feature the Central Florida area. Of course, I've tuned into the show every once in a while to find an episode that was shot in or around this area.

 

[jt04]

Didn't Disney scrub all the DUI stories about PI?

Wait a second. Oh yeah, and other stories from back then. Obviously though if wdw74 says that stories get scrubbed I must have been mistaken because he is always wrong. Unless he is right this once. So confusing.

 

[WDW1974]

I'm not google, you are more than welcome to spend the time searching yourself.

Obviously you didn't bother to read my post which you quoted. I didn't say you were mistaken about it being online. It may not be.... but that doesn't mean much, as I noted above, not every story from a print edition of a newspaper makes it online, and not every online article makes it to a print edition.

But in typical forum troll tactics, you ignore the facts and logic, and feign disinterest. Not surprising in the least.

Pal, I've been here for as long as you and other forums dating back a lot longer, I'm anything but a troll and wonder what's really bugging you to start piling on me here. What's bugging you? Summer weather? Packing on the pounds? Stuck in FLA?

It doesn't really matter to me. ... I have located the story and am more than willing to give anyone a link if they wish. I won't put it here out of deference to the forum's rules regarding politics (which no one EVER breaches), because the content wasn't my issue and folks will want to debate/discuss what the story means ... the fact the story was/is invisible to anyone not holding a hard copy is.

And, seriously, one issue you don't want to debate with me is how a Tribune Company newspaper places stories online. Any staff written story that appears in the mainsheet will be placed online (and this was a Page 1 deal). And the stories will also be shilled on the writers' personal Twitter accounts (neither writer has done this).

There is something very odd about it all. No, I don't know exactly what the deal is. But my cyncial view is likely very close to the reality of it.

 

[WDW1974]

Here are the only things I could find, but I don't think they're what you're looking for given that they're the wrong date and/or the wrong writer(s):
http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/07/21/v-fullstory/2905553/casino-giant-gentings-political.html
http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/ne...ney-fpl-geo-group-assorted-mbillionaires.html

Saw and read them both. Interesting and about the same topic to some degree.

I'm curious to see the scan, sounds interesting.

Do you want me to send you a link? I only ask that it doesn't wind up here because then people will start discussing the topic and while I feel how Disney spends its/our money should be fair game here, I understand why it isn't. My issue is why the story was pulled and hidden. ... If you read it and want to know my opinion regarding what it states, I'll be happy to discuss via email, Tom.

I would mention how excited I am for tonight's Breaking Bad here, but it's a television show that focuses on meth production and, by extension, the War on Drugs, so that's probably far too political for some of the self-appointed moderators here!

I haven't watched the show basically because I want to see it from the start and I wasn't clued in on how good it was until midway thru its second season.

And since we are talking TV now, I'll say I am most excited about Revolution (coming this fall to NBC) and disappointed that The Walking Dead didn't get a best drama nom from the Academy (oh, and I wonder if Bob Iger will show up to meet the Spirit when ABC hosts the Primetime Emmys on Sunday, September 23rd from the Nokia Theater at LA Live! ... Maybe Eddie Sotto will throw a party nearby at Rivera and invite the Spirit too?)