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Tired of these people

Smiley/OCD

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I’m talking about right now, as in ban this particular person. The facial recognition technology they are using does not have the capability to monitor all guests and cross reference their faces against a banned list.

Disney does not require guests to show ID to enter their parks. So how would this guy be banned from entering next month?
Ok, he gets banned now, police report is made and filed…FOLLOW THRU, and don’t allow the noodnick to appeal a year down the road and get reinstated. Will it be a foolproof system? NO, but just like some on here say security at the gates is theater, let’s expand that theatre to trespass.
You know, Disney is one of the largest employers of former Feds, and law enforcement…I’m sure they can crack down and develop very effective policies IF THEY WANTED…if they really wanted, they would’ve found Buzzy and prosecuted our pal IF THEY WANTED… that’s the problem, they DON’T
 
I’m sure it was minuscule compared to now…a bunch of people on SE…one gets out then, and just the friends who see it live know about it. NOW, it’s posted on TicToc in 30 seconds and YouTube in another 10.

Sure.. but how many repeat incidences of people getting out on SE have happened? We hear about it more but I don't know if these things are happening more. Attention whoring isn't a modern revelation but TikTok has definitely made who gets attention more Democratic!
 

phillip9698

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Ok, he gets banned now, police report is made and filed…FOLLOW THRU, and don’t allow the noodnick to appeal a year down the road and get reinstated. Will it be a foolproof system? NO, but just like some on here say security at the gates is theater, let’s expand that theatre to trespass.
You know, Disney is one of the largest employers of former Feds, and law enforcement…I’m sure they can crack down and develop very effective policies IF THEY WANTED…if they really wanted, they would’ve found Buzzy and prosecuted our pal IF THEY WANTED… that’s the problem, they DON’T

Oh lord. I’m not talking about that they could do or what they want to do in terms of security I’m talking about right now actuality.

Outside of Vegas casinos, large venues have no reliable way to ensure a banned individual actually never makes it back inside the facility and behave as usual. What the ban actually serves as is a warning to the individual to be on good behavior because if they cause trouble again there is documentation that they shouldn’t be on site and then the company can take increased legal action against them.

It’s just a warning. That guy could stroll into the parks tomorrow and nothing would happen unless he acted a fool again.
 

Smiley/OCD

Well-Known Member
Oh lord. I’m not talking about that they could do or what they want to do in terms of security I’m talking about right now actuality.

Outside of Vegas casinos, large venues have no reliable way to ensure a banned individual actually never makes it back inside the facility and behave as usual. What the ban actually serves as is a warning to the individual to be on good behavior because if they cause trouble again there is documentation that they shouldn’t be on site and then the company can take increased legal action against them.

It’s just a warning. That guy could stroll into the parks tomorrow and nothing would happen unless he acted a fool again.
Here’s an idea…Disney loves a show…they want air time…Cameras all around, showing the guy getting escorted off property, tape forwarded to all local media and posted to social media…Disney makes him a star, a star only his parents can love.
In the meantime, Disney can develop a better system of “guest” tracking and identification at the gates.
 

BobPar

Active Member
its not a fool proof system but if the guy is trespassed for life... basically he no longer can book a room or use a credit card on property .. you would think they have ability to flag that guest name in their systems obviously he can stay off property and buy tickets 2nd hand ? but thats not an easy thing to do for life esp if he ends up having children etc...
 

Smiley/OCD

Well-Known Member
its not a fool proof system but if the guy is trespassed for life... basically he no longer can book a room or use a credit card on property .. you would think they have ability to flag that guest name in their systems obviously he can stay off property and buy tickets 2nd hand ? but thats not an easy thing to do for life esp if he ends up having children etc...
The only problem with that is that I think most doing this are locals and they may be buying a one day pass to circumvent that tracking…
 

Angel Ariel

Well-Known Member
The only problem with that is that I think most doing this are locals and they may be buying a one day pass to circumvent that tracking…
or they could have a family member book everything in their name. Or get a new Cc number. Lots of ways banning for life isn’t foolproof.

Doesn’t mean it shouldn’t be an option - it should. As someone said, it gives Disney legal leverage to take further action should they come onsite and do something else foolish later. But it’s not going to make much of a dent in the short term if someone is really interested in getting back into the park. A fine would likely be more of a deterrent, esp in the short term.
 

Smiley/OCD

Well-Known Member
if thats the case may end up costing more than a fine at the daily rates they charge hahaha
True, but I suspect there’s a monetary reward at the end of their adventure and paying for one day is more “cost effective” for them and their TicToc or YouTube accounts
 

Smiley/OCD

Well-Known Member
or they could have a family member book everything in their name. Or get a new Cc number. Lots of ways banning for life isn’t foolproof.

Doesn’t mean it shouldn’t be an option - it should. As someone said, it gives Disney legal leverage to take further action should they come onsite and do something else foolish later. But it’s not going to make much of a dent in the short term if someone is really interested in getting back into the park. A fine would likely be more of a deterrent, esp in the short term.
Absolutely, anything they do would be a positive…Disney will have to sue their parents because they’re probably all living in mom & dad’s basement…and all the offender’s allowance money is probably tied up in their X-box
 

Demarke

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Premium Member
or they could have a family member book everything in their name. Or get a new Cc number. Lots of ways banning for life isn’t foolproof.

Doesn’t mean it shouldn’t be an option - it should. As someone said, it gives Disney legal leverage to take further action should they come onsite and do something else foolish later. But it’s not going to make much of a dent in the short term if someone is really interested in getting back into the park. A fine would likely be more of a deterrent, esp in the short term.
There are lots of ways to make it so Disney probably won’t catch you coming back in after a trespass notice and lifetime ban. However, part of the deterrent is that, even though they might not catch you coming back in (like Walmart or Target may not catch a shoplifter walking back in after a trespass notice), they are risking the fact that they *might* get caught coming back in and there are more teeth in potential penalties for violating a legal order not to trespass once they’ve been banned and put on proper notice.
 

BobPar

Active Member
True, but I suspect there’s a monetary reward at the end of their adventure and paying for one day is more “cost effective” for them and their TicToc or YouTube accounts
im not on either but those platforms let people profit from trespassing and illegal activities?
 

Angel Ariel

Well-Known Member
There are lots of ways to make it so Disney probably won’t catch you coming back in after a trespass notice and lifetime ban. However, part of the deterrent is that, even though they might not catch you coming back in (like Walmart or Target may not catch a shoplifter walking back in after a trespass notice), they are risking the fact that they *might* get caught coming back in and there are more teeth in potential penalties for violating a legal order not to trespass once they’ve been banned and put on proper notice.
Absolutely agreed - that was my point :)
 

Smiley/OCD

Well-Known Member
There are lots of ways to make it so Disney probably won’t catch you coming back in after a trespass notice and lifetime ban. However, part of the deterrent is that, even though they might not catch you coming back in (like Walmart or Target may not catch a shoplifter walking back in after a trespass notice), they are risking the fact that they *might* get caught coming back in and there are more teeth in potential penalties for violating a legal order not to trespass once they’ve been banned and put on proper notice.
Kinda like a Disney roach motel…pests get in, but they don’t get out…lol
 

donaldtoo

Well-Known Member
I often wonder if this has always happened and there just weren't as many folks around capable of recording incidents or if everyone's brains have indeed melted.

I speculate it’s a combination of things that exist these days.
Definitely more folks recording, due to ease of doing so, thus more people knowing the chances of them being recorded doing such are good…including those in their group.
And yes, of course, melted brains…!!!!! :hilarious: ;)
I’m old enough to remember the days when not only did you not want to be seen doing something stupid, you definitely didn’t want to be recorded doing such. Not so much, these days.
Day by day, we seem to be creeping ever closer and closer to the movie “Idiocracy”.
 

thomas998

Well-Known Member
People attempt it or do it because they can and Disney talks a big game, but doesn’t follow thru…I’ve said it here many times…someone HAS to be made an example….well publicized on ALL media, and as it spreads, HOPEFULLY, the point will be made.
The only way they will ever really make a meaningful example is when someone does some crap like this in such a way that Disney can use the act as an excuse to spend lots of money on the ride cleaning it up or fixing damage and then not only presses criminal charges against the person that did it but also suing them in civil court to the point the person goes bankrupt... at that point it would serve as an example. But let's be honest about it, even if Disney called the police and pressed criminal charges the prosecutor would at most give the person probation and that would be the end of it. An example is only meaningful when it all but destroys someone.
 

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