Tired of these people

NickMaio

Well-Known Member
I know that the ones that were caught were before entering. How does anyone know if others that were on the list didn't get in, but just weren't caught. They might just have never caught them, that doesn't mean they didn't get in. If there were 3 thousand on the list does that mean that they caught 3K trying to get back in?
No, it means no one on the 3k list made it inside.
The FR Software is very reliable.
Hats, glasses, beards have little effect.

There are 15 cameras before the floor......thats not even counting the parking lot, just the lobby.

Apparently it has a 98.5% accuracy rate.
 

Goofyernmost

Well-Known Member
No, it means no one on the 3k list made it inside.
The FR Software is very reliable.
Hats, glasses, beards have little effect.

There are 15 cameras before the floor......thats not even counting the parking lot, just the lobby.

Apparently it has a 98.5% accuracy rate.
I'm not going to belabor the point because it doesn't really matter, but one more time. No one can be sure if anyone did get past because if they did get past it wouldn't be known, so even if it is totally effective, it cannot be proven because they cannot prove that no one got past the system and got in. Unless all three thousand people on the list would have had to attempt to get in and everyone, all three thousand, would have been spotted and turned away before they would know for sure that everyone did not get past the system. You can only know for sure about the ones that they did catch, not how effective it was overall.

It is possible that they got every single one before they got past it, but they cannot ever be sure that others didn't get past them without being caught. It's just a point of curiosity because I see it as possible to get by undetected and no one would ever know. It was very effective for the ones they caught but there is no way of knowing how many or if others managed to sneak past. If they didn't then that would be a tremendous accomplishment, and it might be accurate. I just think that there are to many variables to be certain, but if they are happy with the results who am I to be skeptical.
 

thomas998

Well-Known Member
Sounds good.
One of my good friends currently works at a Casino in our city. She would also differ you on your opinion about FR.
She says in the last 5 years - not one person, who was in the black book, made it onto the floor. Currently the number of guests in that book is over 3k.
At that is in a casino in Toronto Canada.

Let's agree to disagree, have a good one :)
My experience was with Indian casinos in the midwest and western US. They wished they could stop people before they made it to a table but that wasn't their experience.
 

NickMaio

Well-Known Member
I'm not going to belabor the point because it doesn't really matter, but one more time. No one can be sure if anyone did get past because if they did get past it wouldn't be known, so even if it is totally effective, it cannot be proven because they cannot prove that no one got past the system and got in. Unless all three thousand people on the list would have had to attempt to get in and everyone, all three thousand, would have been spotted and turned away before they would know for sure that everyone did not get past the system. You can only know for sure about the ones that they did catch, not how effective it was overall.

It is possible that they got every single one before they got past it, but they cannot ever be sure that others didn't get past them without being caught. It's just a point of curiosity because I see it as possible to get by undetected and no one would ever know. It was very effective for the ones they caught but there is no way of knowing how many or if others managed to sneak past. If they didn't then that would be a tremendous accomplishment, and it might be accurate. I just think that there are to many variables to be certain, but if they are happy with the results who am I to be skeptical.
The company that developed the software did testing with 5,000+ people and changed their appearance in multiple variables, 10-15 different ways.
The error rate, was 1.5%
The other 98.5% of people the FR recognized.
 

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