Tipping Mousekeeping

How do you tip "Mousekeeping"?

  • Every day

    Votes: 109 75.2%

  • At the end of your stay

    Votes: 36 24.8%
  • Total voters
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CaptainAmerica

CaptainAmerica

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rob0519 said:
Playing devil's advocate for a minute here. What if, say over the next 5 years Americans grew tired of the societal expectation of tipping in restaurants and everyone stopped, thus making not tipping the societal norm? What if Americans tired not of tipping, but tipping based on the price of the food served and left $5 or $10 dollars on a $100 tab? Would restaurant owners raise their prices in order to compensate wait staff for lost tips? Would there be fewer and fewer waiters and waitresses causing restaurants to lose customers and eventually have to close? Societal norms can and do evolve.
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One of the main problems with that is that it removes the financial incentive to pursue excellence. It's the reason I don't follow the "automatic" 18%. If someone is excellent, they get much more than that. If they're rude, they get less. Eliminating gratuity would mean that the crappy waiters are making just as much as the exceptional ones.
 
KrzyKtty

KrzyKtty

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CaptainAmerica said:
One of the main problems with that is that it removes the financial incentive to pursue excellence. It's the reason I don't follow the "automatic" 18%. If someone is excellent, they get much more than that. If they're rude, they get less. Eliminating gratuity would mean that the crappy waiters are making just as much as the exceptional ones.
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And many corporations follow the same principal. Most get a somewhat similar base level pay, and then the exceptional ones are eligible for "Spot" awards when warranted and recommended by their supervisor. So I guess that eliminates the most of the "I don't get tipped" arguments. I just get tipped by my bosses. :p
 
CaptainAmerica

CaptainAmerica

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KrzyKtty said:
And many corporations follow the same principal. Most get a somewhat similar base level pay, and then the exceptional ones are eligible for "Spot" awards when warranted and recommended by their supervisor. So I guess that eliminates the most of the "I don't get tipped" arguments. I just get tipped by my bosses. :p
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And someone will complain and say "then let Disney give bonuses to the excellent housekeepers" but there's no way for them to really be evaluated in that way due to the nature of the work.
 
KrzyKtty

KrzyKtty

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CaptainAmerica said:
And someone will complain and say "then let Disney give bonuses to the excellent housekeepers" but there's no way for them to really be evaluated in that way due to the nature of the work.
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Oh I know. But I do like the idea of leaving a letter for the manager if they really did that amazing of a job. Something for the file just in case you know?

I'm not sure if they have annual reviews, but it gives them something just in case.
 
bigrigross

bigrigross

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Otterhead said:
I don't tip the IT staff at my job because they have excellent jobs with excellent salaries.
Nor do I tip the management, the secretaries, the writers, or the producers. They all have salaries.
But I do tip waiters and service staff because they do not. I also tip people who deliver furniture or food to my house for the same reason.
This really isn't that complicated.
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So, you base it off how much money they make and not based off the service. So you feel sorry for them and tip. Their are pages of post stating its because of etiquette and not because they dont make much money. Both you and stamps are contradicting yourselves. You both said because its for doing good service, yet if your IT guy gives you great service, you are not going to tip them because they make too much money? So which is it. Its complicated because you both cant give a straight answer. Do you tip based on service, or do you tip based on how much they make?
 
CaptainAmerica

CaptainAmerica

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bigrigross said:
So, you base it off how much money they make and not based off the service. So you feel sorry for them and tip. Their are pages of post stating its because of etiquette and not because they dont make much money. Both you and stamps are contradicting yourselves. You both said because its for doing good service, yet if your IT guy gives you great service, you are not going to tip them because they make too much money? So which is it. Its complicated because you both cant give a straight answer. Do you tip based on service, or do you tip based on how much they make?
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Speaking for myself, the issue is with the way you're defining "service." An IT guy provides a service but he doesn't "serve." It's not about the salary, it's about the nature of the work. When my IT guy provides a service, he's not serving ME, he's serving my employer. There's nothing personal in the nature of the work like bringing a meal or cleaning the sheets I sleep in.
 
disney4life2008

disney4life2008

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jaklgreen said:
Trust me, if your toilet was filthy and they did not bring you any towels and your trash was over flowing, it would influence you directly. Your argument is not valid. You don't have to set eyes on someone for them to be an influence on you.
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This is true; however, I am PAYING for my room! I expect my room to be clean. What are you not understanding?

When I get my hair cut, I am choosing to leave a tip. Does not mean I always do.
 
jaklgreen

jaklgreen

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rob0519 said:
You need to go back and read my previous posts in this thread. I the porters, the drivers, the valet, the housekeeper, etc. I stated up front that I was playing the devil's advocate. It was to create a discussion. I don't grab 30 napkins or 20 straws or anything else I won't use and I certainly don't need a lecture from you. Remember at one time both men and women wore expensive hats every day. Try to find a hat store today. Society does evolve at times.
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Sorry, didn't mean to imply that you, personally did. My using "you" was directed at those who do these types of things.
 
disney4life2008

disney4life2008

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bigrigross said:
So, you base it off how much money they make and not based off the service. So you feel sorry for them and tip. Their are pages of post stating its because of etiquette and not because they dont make much money. Both you and stamps are contradicting yourselves. You both said because its for doing good service, yet if your IT guy gives you great service, you are not going to tip them because they make too much money? So which is it. Its complicated because you both cant give a straight answer. Do you tip based on service, or do you tip based on how much they make?
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Agreed. It sounds like people tip because they are in positions that do not make a lot of money. But I remain confused because people choose what occupations they go into and know (I am sure at disney) what their compensation will be.
 
disney4life2008

disney4life2008

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KrzyKtty said:
Oh I know. But I do like the idea of leaving a letter for the manager if they really did that amazing of a job. Something for the file just in case you know?

I'm not sure if they have annual reviews, but it gives them something just in case.
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This in fact I have done many times and having worked in guest care, these mean more than a tip. Numerous letters of support for a housekeeper could mean the difference between that and moving up another level.
 
disney4life2008

disney4life2008

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jaklgreen said:
WOW! OK, you are officially a cheap a$$.
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I have already said this, DUH! When I go to chilis, I leave a $1 or $2 tip. I am usually solo, I am not leaving a $10 for someone that brought me a glass of water, boy bye

I have made clear, I tip when service surpasses my expectations. Ohana usually gets beyond 20%. I will never tip housekeeping and honestly, I can clean my own room. My mindset on cruises is different because those staff will stand on their head if they have to lol.
 
21stamps

21stamps

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CaptainAmerica said:
Speaking for myself, the issue is with the way you're defining "service." An IT guy provides a service but he doesn't "serve." It's not about the salary, it's about the nature of the work. When my IT guy provides a service, he's not serving ME, he's serving my employer. There's nothing personal in the nature of the work like bringing a meal or cleaning the sheets I sleep in.
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Same. I guarantee that when I was younger my hairstylist was making more than me. My best friend, who went to the same stylist, and myself would always joke about it. She was driving a brand new CLK convertible, and had a fabulous wardrobe and shoes. We tipped her well because she was fantastic, not because we thought she was hurting for money. I tipped her assistant too... even though my hair cut color etc. were completely overpriced.

I think it just comes back to what is customary, and what is the social norm. There are certain positions that are normally tipped positions, and there are others that are not. It's really just a simple as that.
 
bigrigross

bigrigross

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CaptainAmerica said:
Speaking for myself, the issue is with the way you're defining "service." An IT guy provides a service but he doesn't "serve." It's not about the salary, it's about the nature of the work. When my IT guy provides a service, he's not serving ME, he's serving my employer. There's nothing personal in the nature of the work like bringing a meal or cleaning the sheets I sleep in.
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This is true, but they gave me the answers I was expecting regardless of how it was asked. They both stated they do not tip their IT because they make too much money. This could be even when taking it to a business to get it fixed. I know several of my college buddies who opened their shop making more than me doing IT work for people. Should that mean they should not get a tip for above and beyond performance of service. To them, they say its based on service on other post. But I got their true answers. IT and waiting tables are both service industry jobs.
 
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