Tipping Mousekeeping

[KrzyKtty]

I noticed no one has responded and I'm interested in the answer.

It is customary to tip anybody who touches your bag. You should tip bus drivers if they help you load and unload your bags, airport attendants if they do the same, and Bell hops.

 

[Otterhead]

That right there shows why you tip. This is my last reply as this blatantly shows why you tip. Good luck convincing anyone about etiquette.

I don't tip the IT staff at my job because they have excellent jobs with excellent salaries.
Nor do I tip the management, the secretaries, the writers, or the producers. They all have salaries.
But I do tip waiters and service staff because they do not. I also tip people who deliver furniture or food to my house for the same reason.
This really isn't that complicated.

 

[Laketravis]

No. That's luck of the draw. I treat the delivery like I would any other bell service. So if I'm there I'll tip. If I'm not, then I don't.

But do you leave a tip for housekeeping? I'm trying to understand the difference.

 

[KrzyKtty]

Are there people here that do not tip their hairdressers? Just curious...

 

[larryz]

Hold on, what? So the housekeepers at All Stars do less work?
Why would someone at GF tip but not at All Stars?

Higher class of clientele, perhaps? Snob factor? Nicer surroundings prompting more genteel behavior?

And that raises the question: is tipping a class distinction? And here, I'm talking economic "class," not social skills "class"... as we all know, there are plenty of people on both sides of the economic class lines who could use some training and coaching in social skills.

Personally, I say no -- ask anyone who waits tables how they feel about tipping, and they'll usually say they tip generously.

 

[xdan0920]

But do you leave a tip for housekeeping? I'm trying to understand the difference.

Yes.

Here's the difference...

A bellhop shouldn't get past your entryway. He shouldn't be poking around the room. I don't know how he'd see a tip waiting for him. Outside of me taping it to the door.

It's all not a big deal to me. I don't over think it. I tip housekeeping bc that's the thing to do. I tip bell services because that's the thing to do.

Magical express is exclusive to Disney, and is sort of a weird thing that your luggage arrives separate from yourself. So I tip if I see the guy, and otherwise don't worry about it if I don't.

 

[Otterhead]

Personally, I say no -- ask anyone who waits tables how they feel about tipping, and they'll usually say they tip generously.

A friend of mine is a hard-core libertarian who thinks income taxes should be illegal and believes everyone should 'pull themselves up by their bootstraps', that sort of thing. But he also used to own a restaurant and waited tables for years. The guy usually tips about 25% at least and always leaves tips in hotels.

 

[Laketravis]

Magical express is exclusive to Disney, and is sort of a weird thing that your luggage arrives separate from yourself. So I tip if I see the guy, and otherwise don't worry about it if I don't.

That's pretty much the way I have always thought about it in regards to ME but wasn't sure if I was alone in that thinking.

 

[Laketravis]

......ask anyone who waits tables how they feel about tipping, and they'll usually say they tip generously.

Over the years I've noticed this is definitely true; many who worked tip-based positions in their early years tend to be generous tippers later in life and as their careers developed. I often see them leave a tip larger than the amount of the actual bill in cases where the total isn't very much because they aren't working off of percentages but more of a "feel".

 

[xdan0920]

Over the years I've noticed this is definitely true; many who worked tip-based positions in their early years tend to be generous tippers later in life and as their careers developed. I often see them leave a tip larger than the amount of the actual bill in cases where the total isn't very much because they aren't working off of percentages but more of a "feel".

My wife was a waitress from 18-28. She is also a teacher. And hasn't waited tables for 4 years or so. Not coincidentally we now have a 3 year old. So do the math....

Anyways. We tip based on feel a lot. The local pizza joint up the street has this adorable girl waiting tables. She's probably 24ish. Landon loves her. Runs up to her, gives her a hug, gets our special table. Ya know. She's very sweet. So when our bill is $28, she deserves more then $6.

 

[larryz]

Although if there are any psych majors on this forum, we could have just given a great dissertation lol!

I'd rather work it as an experiment, the hypothesis being that Americans who feel they're being fleeced in a tourist location are less likely to tip housekeepers than those who are comfortable with the price they're paying. You'd have to craft an unbiased survey to pre-test your population, then sort them out by groups. Control would be unsorted.

 

[disney4life2008]

I noticed no one has responded and I'm interested in the answer.

I am as well. But I am going to take a guess that people leave a $20 on the floor or the bed with a thank you note

 

[disney4life2008]

No. That's luck of the draw. I treat the delivery like I would any other bell service. So if I'm there I'll tip. If I'm not, then I don't.

I dont understand. Your not in the room when housekeeping is there.

 

[disney4life2008]

Are there people here that do not tip their hairdressers? Just curious...

Yes. But I know who my hair dresser is. Why am I leaving a tip for someone I never see?

In every other argument regarding tips these are people who have a direct influence of me as an individual. Hair dresser, food server.

 

[rob0519]

Once again it goes back to society norm. You might not agree with it, and do not have to live by it. That does not change the social expectation.

Playing devil's advocate for a minute here. What if, say over the next 5 years Americans grew tired of the societal expectation of tipping in restaurants and everyone stopped, thus making not tipping the societal norm? What if Americans tired not of tipping, but tipping based on the price of the food served and left $5 or $10 dollars on a $100 tab? Would restaurant owners raise their prices in order to compensate wait staff for lost tips? Would there be fewer and fewer waiters and waitresses causing restaurants to lose customers and eventually have to close? Societal norms can and do evolve.

 

[jaklgreen]

Over the years I've noticed this is definitely true; many who worked tip-based positions in their early years tend to be generous tippers later in life and as their careers developed. I often see them leave a tip larger than the amount of the actual bill in cases where the total isn't very much because they aren't working off of percentages but more of a "feel".

I think it should be mandatory for everyone to spend at least a year working in the service industry. Maybe then people would appreciate how hard these people work to serve you.

 

[jaklgreen]

Playing devil's advocate for a minute here. What if, say over the next 5 years Americans grew tired of the societal expectation of tipping in restaurants and everyone stopped, thus making not tipping the societal norm? What if Americans tired not of tipping, but tipping based on the price of the food served and left $5 or $10 dollars on a $100 tab? Would restaurant owners raise their prices in order to compensate wait staff for lost tips? Would there be fewer and fewer waiters and waitresses causing restaurants to lose customers and eventually have to close? Societal norms can and do evolve.

Oh, I know they would not only raise prices but also cut labor. It happens all the time. Where I work, at a fast casual restaurant, every time the minimum wage goes up, they put a freeze on hiring and on raises. And a few weeks later the prices go up. The problem with all of the "idealists" that hate tipping, well, most of you are cheap skates and complain to high heaven when the prices go up. So you don't want to tip, but neither do you want prices to go up. I know a good way of keeping prices down, try not to grab 30 napkins when you only use 2. The restaurants can not reuse them and they all get tossed.

 

[KrzyKtty]

Playing devil's advocate for a minute here. What if, say over the next 5 years Americans grew tired of the societal expectation of tipping in restaurants and everyone stopped, thus making not tipping the societal norm? What if Americans tired not of tipping, but tipping based on the price of the food served and left $5 or $10 dollars on a $100 tab? Would restaurant owners raise their prices in order to compensate wait staff for lost tips? Would there be fewer and fewer waiters and waitresses causing restaurants to lose customers and eventually have to close? Societal norms can and do evolve.

By law already restaurants have to ensure their employees have to make minimum wage. So if the server has a bad tip week, the owner has to make up the difference on their paycheck to minimum wage levels. So I would assume that if those norms changed an/or evolved, the owners would have to continue to do the same...

 

[jaklgreen]

Yes. But I know who my hair dresser is. Why am I leaving a tip for someone I never see?

In every other argument regarding tips these are people who have a direct influence of me as an individual. Hair dresser, food server.

Trust me, if your toilet was filthy and they did not bring you any towels and your trash was over flowing, it would influence you directly. Your argument is not valid. You don't have to set eyes on someone for them to be an influence on you.

 

[rob0519]

Oh, I know they would not only raise prices but also cut labor. It happens all the time. Where I work, at a fast casual restaurant, every time the minimum wage goes up, they put a freeze on hiring and on raises. And a few weeks later the prices go up. The problem with all of the "idealists" that hate tipping, well, most of you are cheap skates and complain to high heaven when the prices go up. So you don't want to tip, but neither do you want prices to go up. I know a good way of keeping prices down, try not to grab 30 napkins when you only use 2. The restaurants can not reuse them and they all get tossed.

You need to go back and read my previous posts in this thread. I the porters, the drivers, the valet, the housekeeper, etc. I stated up front that I was playing the devil's advocate. It was to create a discussion. I don't grab 30 napkins or 20 straws or anything else I won't use and I certainly don't need a lecture from you. Remember at one time both men and women wore expensive hats every day. Try to find a hat store today. Society does evolve at times.