Tipping for Mousekeeping?

[Dave B]

Actually, the practice of tipping benefits the consumer, each consumer, who stands to benefit from a server or housekeeper pursuing said tips.



For some, it's the best they are able to do. Just because labor market conditions dictate these lower wagers, doesn't mean it's not both unfortunate and often difficult for those workers. Tipping in service industries isn't some new cost-savings idea contrived by MNC's. It's as old as Moses. People suddenly abandoning that practice has a negative impact on these workers. So incredibly selfish.

Look McDonald's pays $12.50 to start and states raises every six months for the first two years, I know Bank Tellers make $15/hour to start, there are A LOT of other options than what the housekeepers CHOOSE to do everyday

 

[OneofThree]

Then tip them then? Why does it matter to me if you want to tip someone? You are beating a dead horse here. Those who tip, will tip. Those who do not, will not. If you feel like im such a horrible person for not tipping someone who is getting paid a wage to do a job they accepted, then tip for me. Give your mousekeeper 10 dollars a day rather than the 5 everyone on here says. Trying to make me feel bad for not tipping just is laughable. You people try to guilt trip and when I say tip for me. Your like, well it makes people happy bla bla blah. Tipping a mousekeeper benefits no one but the mousekeeper. Tipping literally only exist to keep corporations from paying better. Saying anything otherwise is ignorance. I do not say I do not tip. But expecting tips leads to disappointment.

Not sure what exactly you're speaking to here, but my posts were responses to specific comments. I didn't show up and berate individuals simply for the fact that they choose not to tip. What I did however, was address some of the decidely BS comments that really needed it.

 

[allgiggles]

Yeah I work way to hard for empathy for people that choose their own profession and then complain, I used to make $10/hour and lived with 3 roommates, I decided that was not for me and that I wanted more. So I went to school at nights, finished a degree and worked very hard for a few years to get to the other side. Sacrificed a lot to do it, but again, that was my choice

Maybe some of the housekeepers *are* trying to better their situation. They could be working this job because for whatever reason it's the only job they're currently qualified for. You have no idea (nor do I) what their personal situation is or why they have the job they have. Perhaps they're earning this money so they can go to school at night and learn new skills to be able to get a better job.

Some on here have the view cleaning hotel rooms is such hard work. I must ask have you never cleaned your own house? Vacuuming, dusting and cleaning toilets is not hard work boring but not hard. Having raised 3 boys I've done may share of cleaning toilets and lived to tell about it.

Having raised 5 kids (3 boys, 2 girls), I've done more than my fair share of cleaning house including 4 full bathrooms (I'll take a boy's bathroom ANY DAY over a girl's bathroom). While keeping my house clean isn't always easy, at worst it takes me a few hours a week. That doesn't even come close to comparing to what a housekeeper at a hotel does. They're bending over picking up towels, empty trashcans, vacuuming,, etc. for eight or more hours A DAY. That's not even remotely comparable to cleaning one's house. Not to mention, my kids know they'll have to deal with the wrath of mom if their areas of the house become overly messy/dirty. This keeps my cleaning time to a minimum. Many hotel guests couldn't care less how dirty they leave a room as no one is going to punish them for leaving a mess (as long as there's no damage to the room).

 

[bigrigross]

Not sure what exactly you're speaking to here, but my posts were responses to specific comments. I didn't show up and berate individuals simply for the fact that they choose not to tip. What I did however, was address some of the decidely BS comments that really needed it.

You chose mine. And so I replied. Not sure where you are getting that tipping is beneficial to consumers. It is not. Please, give me some explanations why I would benefit from tipping?

Edit: Are you trying to say that tipping brings me better service? That would be incorrect. Many restaurants across the world do not allow you to tip. And yet do very well. Really only the US and a few other countries make tipping out to be some kind of mandatory thing.

 

[OneofThree]

Not sure where you are getting that tipping is beneficial to consumers. It is not. Please, give me some explanations why I would benefit from tipping?

Clearly, this conversation is several levels above your pay grade. My mistake.

 

[Dave B]

Maybe some of the housekeepers *are* trying to better their situation. They could be working this job because for whatever reason it's the only job they're currently qualified for. You have no idea (nor do I) what their personal situation is or why they have the job they have. Perhaps they're earning this money so they can go to school at night and learn new skills to be able to get a better job.




Having raised 5 kids (3 boys, 2 girls), I've done more than my fair share of cleaning house including 4 full bathrooms (I'll take a boy's bathroom ANY DAY over a girl's bathroom). While keeping my house clean isn't always easy, at worst it takes me a few hours a week. That doesn't even come close to comparing to what a housekeeper at a hotel does. They're bending over picking up towels, empty trashcans, vacuuming,, etc. for eight or more hours A DAY. That's not even remotely comparable to cleaning one's house. Not to mention, my kids know they'll have to deal with the wrath of mom if their areas of the house become overly messy/dirty. This keeps my cleaning time to a minimum. Many hotel guests couldn't care less how dirty they leave a room as no one is going to punish them for leaving a mess (as long as there's no damage to the room).

Not beating a dead horse, but they choose this profession, they choose to clean rooms, that is all I am saying, they can work elsewhere for more money while still going to school or whatever they are doing.

 

[bigrigross]

Clearly, this conversation is several levels above your pay grade. My mistake.

Ah, I see, berating those who you do not agree with and refuse to clarify your very broad and unproven statements. I want facts. I want proof that me tipping makes consumers happier. You clearly do not have that.

 

[Club Cooloholic]

You are right. All others who disagree with your opinion is wrong. Now that’s classy. Love to debate pro life vs pro death with you. Lol

I keep bringing facts your bringing opinions.

Then tip them then? Why does it matter to me if you want to tip someone? You are beating a dead horse here. Those who tip, will tip. Those who do not, will not. If you feel like im such a horrible person for not tipping someone who is getting paid a wage to do a job they accepted, then tip for me. Give your mousekeeper 10 dollars a day rather than the 5 everyone on here says. Trying to make me feel bad for not tipping just is laughable. You people try to guilt trip and when I say tip for me. Your like, well it makes people happy bla bla blah. Tipping a mousekeeper benefits no one but the mousekeeper. Tipping literally only exist to keep corporations from paying better. Saying anything otherwise is ignorance. I do not say I do not tip. But expecting tips leads to disappointment.

It's funny to see the dreck of humanity come out in people. Your a very sad little man

 

[bigrigross]

I keep bringing facts your bringing opinions.
It's funny to see the dreck of humanity come out in people. Your a very sad little man

Its funny to see when you people have no facts that tipping is beneficial, that you come out with the name calling. Sorry, not stooping to your level especially as it shows your lack of ability to have a meaningful conversation. Like I said, if I am such a horrible person, PLEASE, tip for me. You can do what you want. But because someone doesnt agree with your misconstrued view on the world, doesnt make it my problem or make me a bad person. You calling me a terrible human does make you one though.

 

[allgiggles]

Not beating a dead horse, but they choose this profession, they choose to clean rooms, that is all I am saying, they can work elsewhere for more money while still going to school or whatever they are doing.

Clearly you have never helped unskilled workers try to find employment. I wish it was as simple as just working somewhere else for more money....that would make life so much easier for so many people. Trust me, many people working in housekeeping positions don't *want* to do that, but their options (based on their skill levels and possibly transportation and language issues among other things) are: take this job in housekeeping or have no income.

 

[Dave B]

Clearly you have never helped unskilled workers try to find employment. I wish it was as simple as just working somewhere else for more money....that would make life so much easier for so many people. Trust me, many people working in housekeeping positions don't *want* to do that, but their options (based on their skill levels and possibly transportation and language issues among other things) are: take this job in housekeeping or have no income.

Well considering I manage now, and I hire people all the time, Clearly you are not correct, you are making excuses for people citing examples of Skill levels, which can be worked on and improved, transportation, which is just an excuse, there are many ways to get to work, including asking people for rides, and language issues. Language needs to be worked on just like any other skillset, it takes effort to study after work after a long day, it takes a lot of effort after you have worked 8-10 hours a day, which I have done and choose to work even harder to get to where I am now. If you throw excuses out there you are just enabling

 

[Club Cooloholic]

Or a large group of people are tired of the tip mentality that is pushed by corporations. No one should expect a tip. No one should be shamed for not tipping. No one should be humiliated if they do not tip. Tipping is purely a personal decision. Anyone who expects a tip should have their expectations lowered significantly even at a restaurant. And especially in fields of work that do not utilize tips as part of their income. Simple as that. You can state that none of us has any empathy, but at the end of the day, why does it matter to you? If you feel like we arent doing enough, tip more and then smile. Congrats, you will feel better and this discussion wouldnt need to happen every other day. Everyone is so generous with other peoples money. Its quite funny.

You joh

Its funny to see when you people have no facts that tipping is beneficial, that you come out with the name calling. Sorry, not stooping to your level especially as it shows your lack of ability to have a meaningful conversation. Like I said, if I am such a horrible person, PLEASE, tip for me. You can do what you want. But because someone doesnt agree with your misconstrued view on the world, doesnt make it my problem or make me a bad person. You calling me a terrible human does make you one though.

Your not terrible, just sad.

 

[bigrigross]

Clearly you have never helped unskilled workers try to find employment. I wish it was as simple as just working somewhere else for more money....that would make life so much easier for so many people. Trust me, many people working in housekeeping positions don't *want* to do that, but their options (based on their skill levels and possibly transportation and language issues among other things) are: take this job in housekeeping or have no income.

Sorry, but I have known many people who want to better themselves and NEED to better themselves. The ones that need to usually tend to do. When I went to college, many of the people in my class were those whose occupations were going away and needed to find something to bring in money. The ones who NEEDED to better themselves, I saw graduate. The ones that wanted to better themselves tended to drop out. People reap what they sow. And only they can make themselves better. Also, no one is taking to the fact that some of these workers dont care and are happy where they are at. We have some people like that in healthcare. Not high paying jobs, but they enjoy what they do and just have the job to make a little extra money.

Edit: Grammar

 

[allgiggles]

Well considering I manage now, and I hire people all the time, Clearly you are not correct

Managing and hiring are completely different than counseling and helping someone with no skills find a job. I've done both.

 

[bigrigross]

You joh
Your not terrible, just sad.

And you are pathetic for doing exactly what I said yall would do. You trying to guilt trip or make fun of those who do not agree with your outlook on a specific item. I mean, I called that the second I wrote my post.

 

[Dave B]

Managing and hiring are completely different than counseling and helping someone with no skills find a job. I've done both.

What part were you confused on, I stated I manage and Hire, and you even quoted it

 

[Club Cooloholic]

What part were you confused on, I stated I manage and Hire, and you even quoted it

So Dave you manage a business that requires no experience or skill to employed at it?

 

[Dave B]

So Dave you manage a business that requires no experience or skill to employed at it?

If you can count to 10, be honest, smile and be genuine to people, yes I can offer you an entry level job for at least $15/hour and full time work with benefits, 401k and 18 days off a year with 10 paid holidays and more benefits than I can list

 

[Dave B]

If you live in Colorado and need a job, let me know

 

[allgiggles]

What part were you confused on, I stated I manage and Hire, and you even quoted it

I guess I'm confused. Do you sit with people who have no skills and counsel them on what type of job they might qualify for at various companies in the area? And then do you sit with them and work on their resume and help them apply for jobs? And then coach them on interview skills and appropriate attire for an interview? When I managed and hired I might have coached/counseled people in my department about their career path within our company, but I wasn't trying to find them an entry level, low/no-skill job at a different company. And I hired people who were applying for jobs at our company. I didn't help unemployed people find jobs at a variety of different companies. I guess you must do a different kind of managing and hiring than I did.