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Time to Replace PotC at MK
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cheezbat
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While I hate all the changes over the years, I get it. A change I would gladly welcome though would be a massive extension to the ride. Having the shortest and cheapest Pirates ride in the busiest theme park on the planet is quite sad. This ride should've been extended and additional scenes added years ago.
graphite1326
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They could just shut down your favorite like TGMR!!!!
MrConbon
Well-Known Member
Why will their ridership go up because of the change? 90% of the people I guarantee won’t even notice that the scene has been changed.
KRW101
Member
It’s an iconic ride. You just can’t replace it. All the changes over the years are sad though. When I vacation there I like to leave the real world behind. When I am in the parks things don’t remind me of things that would offend any one , because I am not in that state of mind. Although I am not easily offended, if something does offend me I just move on without whining and crying about it.
I prefer the original auction scene, however the redhead animatronic looks fairly cool.
I prefer the original auction scene, however the redhead animatronic looks fairly cool.
not just the uber fans.
FutureCEO
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Disney is afraid of the PC and freedom of speech until you disagree with me culture madness consuming our land so naturally they go for the safest option.
danyoung56
Well-Known Member
You may be right. My gut feeling is that there are more than enough people who know about this change to guarantee a spike in ridership. We'll see. . .
Animaniac93-98
Well-Known Member
Last year Foxxy of "Passport 2 Dreams" made an excellent audio recreation of the original WDW Pirates ride. Listening to it shows just how much the ride has changed since 2005. Things no longer found include:
- cannons firing on the fort's roof
- barker bird outside
- original queue loops ("spanish guitar" and "yo ho")
- Spanish guards marching (now almost impossibe to hear)
- "Yo Ho" at start of the ride
- different talking skull with different narration
- excerpt of Disneyland's original cave audio at bottom of drop (which sounds odd in this context)
- original Wicked Wench captain and his dialogue
- Well scene's old dialogue
- Auction scene (now totally changed)
- Chase scene with "pooped pirate" and girl in barrel
- Original treasure room with several figures and different music
The original ride was about pirates finding treasure. You heard them digging in the queue, the captain would ask the mayor "where be the treasure!" and then they find it in the end. The pooped pirate even calls they girl that got away his "little 'ol treasure" (showing these pirates have more than one meaning for the word).
Now they're looking for Jack Sparrow (why?) who is looking for treasure (which is fine, but makes the current dialouge at the well scene make even less sense) and someone is trying to sell them chickens.
WDI took a simple, straightforward ride about pirates and made in needlessly complicated and nonsensical for the sake of synergy and political correctness. When the Johnny Depp figures were frist added it was new and novel, but 12 years later that's no longer the case and each subsequent change has just watered down the whole experience. Even the boats have issues even making it through the thing without taking in too much water or getting stuck on the lift hill.
It may sound ridiculous to scrap the whole thing, but they might as well at this point if we're never going back to the 1973 model. They could create a more dynamic and interesting ride that better suits the world of the movies, doesn't break down as often and stands on its own instead of being considered an inferior copy. I don't ever expect that to happen, but I wouldn't be opposed to it.
- cannons firing on the fort's roof
- barker bird outside
- original queue loops ("spanish guitar" and "yo ho")
- Spanish guards marching (now almost impossibe to hear)
- "Yo Ho" at start of the ride
- different talking skull with different narration
- excerpt of Disneyland's original cave audio at bottom of drop (which sounds odd in this context)
- original Wicked Wench captain and his dialogue
- Well scene's old dialogue
- Auction scene (now totally changed)
- Chase scene with "pooped pirate" and girl in barrel
- Original treasure room with several figures and different music
The original ride was about pirates finding treasure. You heard them digging in the queue, the captain would ask the mayor "where be the treasure!" and then they find it in the end. The pooped pirate even calls they girl that got away his "little 'ol treasure" (showing these pirates have more than one meaning for the word).
Now they're looking for Jack Sparrow (why?) who is looking for treasure (which is fine, but makes the current dialouge at the well scene make even less sense) and someone is trying to sell them chickens.
WDI took a simple, straightforward ride about pirates and made in needlessly complicated and nonsensical for the sake of synergy and political correctness. When the Johnny Depp figures were frist added it was new and novel, but 12 years later that's no longer the case and each subsequent change has just watered down the whole experience. Even the boats have issues even making it through the thing without taking in too much water or getting stuck on the lift hill.
It may sound ridiculous to scrap the whole thing, but they might as well at this point if we're never going back to the 1973 model. They could create a more dynamic and interesting ride that better suits the world of the movies, doesn't break down as often and stands on its own instead of being considered an inferior copy. I don't ever expect that to happen, but I wouldn't be opposed to it.
A lot of space. The entrance to the ride, the ride itself, the gift shop, the stage, heck even Tortuga QS and the stroller parking area.
Could almost envision a Pirates pavilion......with a Pirates TS themed restaurant, better gift shop, a rebuild of the ride to match the theme of the movies in a water E ride type of way, and some character interaction with Barbossa, Jack, Will Turner, Salazar, etc.
Disney I feel blew the opportunity initially. They took a very good legacy ride and slightly modified it to the Pirates movie franchise. IMO they should have committed to the re-brand an redone Pirates to the Jack Sparrow and friends motif long ago. Nobody is going on that ride anymore to see the pirate swigging the rum with his leg dangling over the bridge....they are going on the ride because of the movie franchise.
Disney half arsed it again...............
Could almost envision a Pirates pavilion......with a Pirates TS themed restaurant, better gift shop, a rebuild of the ride to match the theme of the movies in a water E ride type of way, and some character interaction with Barbossa, Jack, Will Turner, Salazar, etc.
Disney I feel blew the opportunity initially. They took a very good legacy ride and slightly modified it to the Pirates movie franchise. IMO they should have committed to the re-brand an redone Pirates to the Jack Sparrow and friends motif long ago. Nobody is going on that ride anymore to see the pirate swigging the rum with his leg dangling over the bridge....they are going on the ride because of the movie franchise.
Disney half arsed it again...............
MrConbon
Well-Known Member
Well for me and all of my friends (I live in Orlando so most people I know have an AP) have said that we will no longer be going on the ride due to the change. So a lot of Orlando natives are not happy about this.
NiarrNDisney
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Are you a glutton for punishment? Or do you enjoy weaving out of the way of flying objects aimed at your head? 
I still wish Western River Expedition was made in Florida! It would have been a nice unique experience for the East Coast giving DLR the sole Pirate attraction for the US.
I still wish Western River Expedition was made in Florida! It would have been a nice unique experience for the East Coast giving DLR the sole Pirate attraction for the US.
Goofyernmost
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I have looked at the ride via You Tube and even though I am very disappointed that they felt a need to cater to the ultra imaginary sensitivities of a few people because of a basically cartoon joke acted out by AA's. I felt that it was done ok and actually made as much sense as the original did. I just hate to see history destroyed. There were no ill feelings intended when it was originally designed. It wasn't intended to upset anyone except for the occasional redheaded female that identified with a cartoon character. And wasn't anymore believable then having the coyote survive countless falls off a cliff with an anvil (from Acme) in his hands. People just really need to lighten up and not associate everything with evil because when they do, they are the ones having those thoughts. Not necessarily the rest of us.
Captain Barbossa
Well-Known Member
Thank you, thank you and thank you
Um. More than ONE part of this ride has been edited.
Goofyernmost
Well-Known Member
I don't think this one was necessary, but, I did feel that the addition of Capt. Jack to the ride brought it up to date in the process to make it more identifiable with today's youth. I don't see where it took away anything at all from the ride. The scene at the auction, in and of itself isn't really that traumatic, but, the phrase "We wants the red head" is a huge part of that section and one of the most memorable parts of the ride (except perhaps for the hairy legged pirate on the bridge.) For historic purposes I wish they would have kept it in because there really was nothing really offensive about it. Good grief everyone was worried about the selling of "the red head" when she was obviously part of the worlds oldest profession and was probably self-employed anyway.
Where have you been for the last 4 pages?
WondersOfLife
Blink, blink. Breathe, breathe. Day in, day out.
I've gotten over the "change" once I realized that it wasn't really a "change..." The ride is literally made for people to say "Hey look there's Jack Sparrow," and if not for that, it's literally just this instead: "Hey look, there's some pirates!" That is LITERALLY why the ride exists. It's the whole premise of the ride. To the average theme park guest.