Tigger Punches Guest??

[Connor002]

Amazing how everyone takes the CMs side with practically no evidence on his behalf.

Amazing how you could do the opposite.
Different interpretations of the video will undoubtedly lead to difference of opinion. I choose to favor the Cast Member as being less guilty than the kid, for it is in my opinion, form the brief footage we have of the incident, the "attack" was not nearly warranting of the reaction.

Tigger lost his balance and as a reaction held the kids arm & put his fist up in front of the kid's face? Give me a break.

The kid was just giving his hero a cute hug! Give me a break.

If the CM did indeed punch the guest, whether in self-defense, for no reason or for whatever reason, to me he is guilty and should be fired.

If on the other hand he fell (or whatever) and accidentally hit the guest by mistake, that is a different story. However, if that was the case I don't see why he didn't just say that. If he fell, I'm sure that is what Disney would want immediately put out.

All you're doing is stating the common beliefs here. I have confidence in saying the people in this thread would say the same if it was clear there was a "punch."

I don't see any reason why the CM wouldn't apologize if it was an just accident.

Do we know that none such thing has occurred?
We're all running on the same set of information, ours is no more compete than yours. Don't preach to us, s'il vous plait.

 

[Plutoboy]

More than likely the cast member has been told not to speak to anyone about the situation. Also unless you have been in a costume please don't make comments about who should be fired and who shouldn't because you clearly have no idea what goes on once inside the costume.

Having been a "friend" of the character for 10 years, I left in 2005, 99.9% of the time that this stuff happens it is the fault of the guest. Let me see...two broken noses, a guest jumping mem from behind that it tore my ACL and countless punches to the back of the head.....but you never saw me or any other performer on TV whining about it and wanting someone to apologize.

NOt to mention that you honeslty mean to tell me that you believe that Tigger just got bored and turned around to hit the kid???? The son's reaction seems a little defensive to me and forced...as if he knows he's lying and Dad will beat the crap out of him if he finds out the truth.

I'm not justifying any action of a cast member that would bring harm to a guest but it just annoys me that there are money grubbing people out there such as this gentleman. We all know what;s coming next... the son can't sleep at night and when he does sleep he dreams about Tigger beating him up which will cause undo stress and the kid will need therapy (oh yeah and tons of money to make the situation better).

I can tell you one of two things happened that caused the situation.... Tigger and kid off balance and it was an honest accident. Two and more likely.....the kid was doing something that cannot be seen in the video...thus provoking Tigger to react the way he did.

 

[Connor002]

It wasn't me

But were you watching with revel?

 

[Scar Junior]

We all know what;s coming next... the son can't sleep at night and when he does sleep he dreams about Tigger beating him up which will cause undo stress and the kid will need therapy (oh yeah and tons of money to make the situation better).

Hopefully they'll get enough to buy him some decent clothes. Perhaps a shirt with sleeves is in order?

 

[askmike1]

So you mean to tell me the next time you're in Disney World you're going to be worried about your family being assaulted by a CM, huh?

Of course not, but there is no excuse whatsoever for a CM to hit a guest (barring being 'beat up' by the guest).

Tigger is not punching but responding to whatever the kid was doing.

Really, then tell me what that response was. You are saying that the CM did something purposefully in response to whatever the kid did. There is never a valid reason for a Disney CM to hit a guest under any circumstance (barring being 'beat up' by the guest).

Like others, it appears to me that the kid was being mischievious.

Being mischievous doing WHAT? What on earth could the guest possibly have done? Tickled him?

You need to stop. Now.

Stop what? Apologizing for the CM like everyone else here is doing without any evidence? Stop blaming the dad for bringing to Disney's attention what allegedly happened?

Why is he even complaining when he didn't even get a bruise or a bloody nose?

Hmmm.... maybe because he doesn't think someone who (allegedly) hit a guest working at WDW?

Tigger lost his balance and as a reaction held the kids arm & put his fist up in front of the kid's face? Give me a break.

The kid was just giving his hero a cute hug! Give me a break.

Exactly, what on earth could the guest have done to warrant that reaction? And on the other hand, what could have happened for this situation to accidentally happen?

 

[Anthony95]

Yay! I have a new avatar! :sohappy: :lookaroun

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[the-reason14]

But didnt the father say that he wasnt looking for anything "extra." I dont know but wouldnt you guys be mad if some dude in a disney costume supposedly struck your kid hard? It did appear that tigger was falling and tried to catch his balance by punching the kid, but still you never know. It also looked like it wasnt that hard of a hit, but I dont know, lets see how this discussion goes and how this story develops, Ill comment on it again a little bit later.

 

[disneydata]

Exactly, what on earth could the guest have done to warrant that reaction? And on the other hand, what could have happened for this situation to accidentally happen?

Did you ever think that whatever the kid was doing was choking the cast member? The kid's head was also below his sight range so there was no way he could have known his head was where it was. If you were trying to pull someone's hand off your back, you would probably need the hand on the opposite side of your body. Unfortunately, the kid's head was in the way.

 

[Scar Junior]

Of course not, but there is no excuse whatsoever for a CM to hit a guest (barring being 'beat up' by the guest).

That's a big duh. But it's not an answer to what you and I were talking about. The quote to which I responded said that you long for

the days when you could go to Disney World and not have to think that a CM hit a guest.

So, I'd like to hear your answer. Do you really feel that you might be hit by a character when you go? You said "of course not," but that contradicts your statement. Do you want to explain what you mean. Perhaps I'm slow....

 

[Baums101]

Oviously this is whats happening. Based on the kid's apparel and personality he,joking around, pinched or hurt Tigger and in the video it looks like tigger did not do any hurt, not even a slap. So now that this has made news the kid is scared to come out and say he hurt Tigger.

 

[Captain Chaos]

Guys, we all know what this is. This is a punk kid who is able to run rampant through universal Studios, cause, well, they want bad behaving teens to run that park. Then, this punk goes to Disney, and because he can fight Shrek, he figures he can do it to Tigger to. So, as the video shows, he TUGS HARD on Tigger, causing the CM to lose his/her balance, twist around to try to regain their balance, and they accidently come in contact with that punk's face.

Good riddence to this family. Go to Universal for now on. Now their attendance will double to what? 2 people????

Or maybe, this is a Universal Studios employee who needed to get Disney's name in the paper with some bad press because they are trying to cover up a rape that occured there. Oh, how long before news media picked up that story about the rape in UNIVERSAL STUDIOS??? IN THE PARK!!! IN THE QUEUE FOR THE RIDE....

 

[askmike1]

Did you ever think that whatever the kid was doing was choking the cast member? ... If you were trying to pull someone's hand off your back, you would probably need the hand on the opposite side of your body.

Oh, so the kid was choking him by putting his hand on his back? Looking at the video over and over, I don't see any possible way the kids hand was anywhere near the CM's neck. As many people here have thought, it appears that it was just a normal one-arm hug that most people do to take a picture.

Do you want to explain what you mean.

I'm saying you should be able to go to Disney World and know that they have Cast Members that are always friendly and courteous.

Based on the kid's apparel and personality he,joking around, pinched or hurt Tigger

So now you can tell exactly what the guest did based on his clothing?

in the video it looks like tigger did not do any hurt, not even a slap.

Accidentally or on purpose, Tigger's paw hit the guest's face.

So, as the video shows, he TUGS HARD on Tigger, causing the CM to lose his/her balance, twist around to try to regain their balance, and they accidently come in contact with that punk's face.

Tugs hard? Give me a break.

 

[Scar Junior]

Guys, we all know what this is. This is a punk kid who is able to run rampant through universal Studios, cause, well, they want bad behaving teens to run that park. Then, this punk goes to Disney, and because he can fight Shrek, he figures he can do it to Tigger to. So, as the video shows, he TUGS HARD on Tigger, causing the CM to lose his/her balance, twist around to try to regain their balance, and they accidently come in contact with that punk's face.

Good riddence to this family. Go to Universal for now on. Now their attendance will double to what? 2 people????

Or maybe, this is a Universal Studios employee who needed to get Disney's name in the paper with some bad press because they are trying to cover up a rape that occured there. Oh, how long before news media picked up that story about the rape in UNIVERSAL STUDIOS??? IN THE PARK!!! IN THE QUEUE FOR THE RIDE....

I love the passion! :wave:

 

[GoofMasterHookX]

As one of Tiggers very close "Friends" This video is something that has happened to every character in disney world. I once was with goofy when he nearly knocked a woman on concious with his nose. Things happen, to tell you the truth Tigger had no idea where that kids face was before he turns and faces him. There is noo way he directed that bunch except for a wild swing. I can also tell you that the way he acts twisting around the kids arm, that is a very common move when someone does something inappropriate behind your back. And yes that does happen, people do stupid stupid things to characters and nothing ever happens, but one time Tigger hits a kid and it is headlines news. It is a load of male cow manure. Not to mention this one time Tigger was bouncy over to pooh's playground and trambled a 40 year old woman....... opps it happens.

 

[imagineer boy]

Did you ever think that whatever the kid was doing was choking the cast member? The kid's head was also below his sight range so there was no way he could have known his head was where it was. If you were trying to pull someone's hand off your back, you would probably need the hand on the opposite side of your body. Unfortunately, the kid's head was in the way.

I think we have our answer to what happened here!:sohappy: :wave: Well stated.

 

[Sir Hiss527]

I honestly think the CM lost his balance, and to try and regain it, he accidently moved his arms in a way, and it just happend. I mean seriously the visiblility in that thing is incredible, as i've heard from my brother who's friends with Tigger.

 

[Captain Chaos]

I love the passion! :wave:

Hey, gotta speak on what I saw on that video. It is clear that kid was tugging on Tigger, and obviously losing their balance.... Just look, the goof ball kid is bouncing on one foot, which shows me he is goofing off and lost his balance, his hand is behind Tigger, and pulling on his head or costume.... And Tigger grabs his arm to either pull it away from him to keep his mask from being ripped off by this kid or to try to balance himself. The kids continues to tug as he continues to hop and Tigger turns, making contact.. OPPS so the CM is wrong... If the kid ripped off Tiggers mask, killing tha magic for hundreds of kids there that day, then what would be your opinion MIKE???

 

[Scar Junior]

Why is it always the guests with NY accents who cause a ruckus?

 

[Captain Chaos]

So now we can expect never to see Tigger in the park again cause some goofy 14 year old kid can't behave the proper way? OY...

By the way, ornaldosentinel.com just ran a story....

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/busi...igger,0,4803916.story?coll=orl-home-headlines

 

[disneydata]

Oh, so the kid was choking him by putting his hand on his back? Looking at the video over and over, I don't see any possible way the kids hand was anywhere near the CM's neck. As many people here have thought, it appears that it was just a normal one-arm hug that most people do to take a picture.

Yes, his hand could have been choking him. The neck of the costume doesn't end at the neck you see. There is a section of the fabric that extends down the back. The kid could have grabbed well below his neck and still grabbed something that could have easily choked him. If you watch the video again, his hand moves downward just before Tigger turns around and faces him.