crispy
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To be fair, I don't attend pro sports games either except an occasional minor league baseball (especially great when they have $1 hot dog night!).
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Ticket Price Increase - Feb 2014
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To be fair, I don't attend pro sports games either except an occasional minor league baseball (especially great when they have $1 hot dog night!).
sshindel
The Epcot Manifesto
My wife got me tickets to the Bears Vs. Lions Monday Night Football game for Fathers Day last year with my father and grandfather (2012). I could have killed her for how much she spent for upper deck tickets, which were (face value mind you) $163 per ticket for this lovely view:
ParentsOf4
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Hey, I lived in Chicago for 11 years.
I got to see the Bears Superbowl season.
I got to see Jordon's championships.
I got to see the Cubs.
The problem with using professional sports as an analogy with theme parks is that sports have winners and losers.
Theme parks don't have to.
But if you want to use a baseball analogy, then right now Universal is the Boston Red Sox with 3 World Series titles in the last 10 years.
Right now, WDW is the Cubs.
(How was that 66-and-96 season anyway? )
crispy
Well-Known Member
Ouch! TV offers a much better view. Plus, I can lay on the couch and constantly check my Fantasy Football scores...lol!
sshindel
The Epcot Manifesto
I do agree that there are no winners and losers here, merely entertainment experiences we pay as consumers to enjoy.Hey, I lived in Chicago for 11 years.
I got to see the Bears Superbowl season.
I got to see Jordon's championships.
I got to see the Cubs.
The problem with using professional sports as an analogy with theme parks is that sports have winners and losers.
Theme parks don't have to.
But if you want to use a baseball analogy, then right now Universal is the Boston Red Sox with 3 World Series titles in the last 10 years.
Right now, WDW is the Cubs.
I don't know how we could compare the theme park that is consistently #1 in the world with the Cubs, who have not won in over 100 years.
Now, the Yankees I might be able to see a closer comparison to, and that still gives you the room to argue that the Boston Universal-Sox are winning more in recent years.
The Cubs WDW analogy is interesting. Have you ever read this book -Right now, WDW is the Cubs.
The Cubs have a whole chapter. They have been very bad in a statistically unlikely fashion. They are also the only big pro sports team on the entirety of planet earth whose attendance is essentially decoupled from team quality. In fact, the only thing that causes Cubs attendance to fluctuate is beer prices. Not a lot of incentive to make the team better. Cubs fans are their own worst enemy. Some would say the same can be said for WDW fans if you follow a certain strain of logic.
Cubfan300
Active Member
Couple things. One, it is not "obvious" to a lot of people, how the market economy works. I can tell you that this is not the first time that I have had to explain, to what appear to be educated people, how our economy works, so when you fire a flaming comment at me, you are stifling other people's desire to actually understand how supply and demand works.
Two, I wasn't speaking of an overall market recovery, rather, the individual market that is WDW and their pricing structure.
Don't be so fast to flame if you don't understand the conversation that is being had.
ParentsOf4
Well-Known Member
See the post by @George.
With a loyal fan base, what are the Cubs incentive to provide a winning team?
Universal has to work for it.
WDW doesn't.
WDW can raise prices, reduce maintenance, lower food quality, and let the parks stagnate yet "guests" keep showing up anyway.
Not sure if you've watched any Yankees games but there were a lot of empty seats in 2013.
Two years ago, the Red Sox had a horrible season and their Front Office was practically begging people to show up. Having lived in Boston and Hartford, I've bought tickets for more than a few games but 2012 was the first year that I received unsolicited emails from the Red Sox pushing ticket sales.
Yeah, the Red Sox/Cubs analogy holds up pretty well, especially in recent years.
ParentsOf4
Well-Known Member
You mean the same way a Disney fanatic loves Walt Disney World?
Nubs70
Well-Known Member
There are definate similarities. I must also add Cubs fans are critical.You mean the same way a Disney fanatic loves Walt Disney World?
PhotoDave219
Well-Known Member
Okay and I'm saying that you're very VERY late to the economic conversation we've had to the past year. We've discussed at length the economic & quarterly statements and the minutia at great length in many, many threads.
I can tell you that this is not the first time that I have had to explain, to what appear to be educated people, how the search feature works.
You'll have to forgive the condescension but many people (specifically @ParentsOf4 ) have analyzed every quarterly statement for many years now.
We know what the mouse is saying. We're calling BS on this "recovery" and that its just smoke and mirrors to try and keep the stock price up.
I very thoroughly understand the conversation at hand; Don't be so defensive if you don't understand the complexities.
ParentsOf4
Well-Known Member
You means WDW fanatics on about a dozen websites are not?
sshindel
The Epcot Manifesto
The thing where I can't make the analogy work in my head is the history. If the Cubs were sitting on their laurels after a good 40-50 years of consistent winning, I could make the leap. It's why I think Yankees. Everything else I can get behind in the analogy.
Yankees history. Cubs fan base. Done and done. I'm working on the book now.
sshindel
The Epcot Manifesto
Remember to credit me on your chapter of MM+/A-Rod
GoofGoof
Premium Member
If you owned the Cubs you would think differently. Forget about wins and losses on the field.
Animaniac93-98
Well-Known Member
The decision to go from $95 to $99 for MK is hardly surprising. Many of us called that one a while back, but what will the next increase be? Will it be listed as an even $100 or will they just go straight to $104?
GoofGoof
Premium Member
It's already over $100 with tax so why not straight to $104. I guess we'll find out this summer