Who, exactly, pimps poverty?? Hmmm?? What does that even mean?? I have yet to meet anyone who has ever said "Whooo hoo! Thank GOD I'm poor! You should try it."
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Ticket Price Increase - Feb 2014
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crispy
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If the MK, DHS, Epcot, and AK were actually premier parks then their pricing would make sense. They can bill themselves as the crème de la crème all they want, but they just aren't anymore. Right now, they look a heckuva lot like most other amusement/theme parks out there while still charging prices like they are the only game in town. To loosely quote WDW1974, prices have doubled while quality and experience has been halved.
TalkingHead
Well-Known Member
Except to be fair, LeBron is much more exclusive than the entertainment in MK.
He hasn't been playing since 1971. Much of MK's lineup dates to the 70s and 80s. Not to mention he plays to much smaller audiences than MK capacity, and he doesn't play 365 days/year.
Etc.
As others had said, it's a poor analogy. Compare theme parks to theme parks, and there's no question WDW has been severely overpriced for many years.
There's plenty of room on the Universal boat. I've had an AP for a couple of years now and haven't regretted it at all.
In fact, after you go to a park a number of times and become familiar with it, you begin to appreciate it like you did WDW before the place became so stale.
Anyway, haven't regretted avoiding WDW for a couple of years now. These prices don't make me anymore eager to return. Why bother when great things are on the way up I4.
Andrew C
You know what's funny?
I have been to both Busch Gardens Williamsburg as well as Hershey Park in the last 4 years. I definitely enjoyed myself, but sorry, they are not even in the same league as WDW...or Uni. So if they are priced at $60-70, I would expect WDW to be more.
Brian Noble
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It is absolutely valid to compare the costs of various entertainment options with one another. Nearly all forms of entertainment have grown in cost faster than inflation. I cannot tell you why that is so---I'm not an economist---but it is fairly consistent. And, just as there are more or less expensive sporting events, concerts, theater presentations, etc. there are more or less expensive theme parks, amusement parks, vacation destinations, cruise lines, and so forth. Every time prices go up (on tickets, on soda, on...), there is wailing, rending of garments, and gnashing of teeth. Yet, somehow, people still seem to come to the parks, and appear to be happy to do so.
Am I happy to pay more than less? Of course not. Do I "support" higher prices? Except by paying them from time to time, no. But, I don't begrudge them either. Disney sets the price, I decide whether or not I want to go, or if I'd rather spend my leisure time and money elsewhere. Pretty simple.
Am I happy to pay more than less? Of course not. Do I "support" higher prices? Except by paying them from time to time, no. But, I don't begrudge them either. Disney sets the price, I decide whether or not I want to go, or if I'd rather spend my leisure time and money elsewhere. Pretty simple.
TalkingHead
Well-Known Member
You don't take week-long vacations to NBA games.
You don't pay through the nose for hotel rooms in Broadway theaters.
Ticket pricing is symptomatic of WDW's larger strategy of squeezing every nickel out of guests and eliminating any perceived value, all for the benefit of management that will be gone when the effects of this strategy are fully felt.
You don't pay through the nose for hotel rooms in Broadway theaters.
Ticket pricing is symptomatic of WDW's larger strategy of squeezing every nickel out of guests and eliminating any perceived value, all for the benefit of management that will be gone when the effects of this strategy are fully felt.
John
Well-Known Member
I can go to the flea market and buy a arm full of DVDs and spend the weekend being entertained....for about $8.00. I can buy videos of my favorite band and be entertained as well. These are a forms of entertainment as well. I can go to a high school football game for $5 bucks. Is this not a form of entertainment? Oh just not the form you were talking about....different when you are the one picking and choosing....huh?
BTW, I did see your last post. No matter how you slice or dice it....it still isn't the same.
jlsHouston
Well-Known Member
True...I can put the cost of a week at WDW totally into perspective when I compare it to a weekend at the casino...and that is with the room and meals comped.
crispy
Well-Known Member
Completely disagree. Both are great parks, and we enjoyed BGW more than most of our recent WDW trips. We were actually able to enjoy the park and rides without having to wait in line all day, the food was really good, and the park condition was beautiful. To say it's not in the same league as WDW is true - I would actually put it a couple of leagues above DHS and AK as they are right now.
I absolutely love Disney, but I don't love how it's being run and how stagnant the parks are. There are many other, wonderful parks around and it won't cost you your firstborn to visit them. To put it in perspective, when we visited Williamsburg, we were able to get a 7-day tickets for our family of 4 to Busch Gardens, WaterCountry USA, and Colonial Williamsburg for less than $300 (the then 4 year old was still free, but to add her would have cost around $85) plus free parking. To put that in perspective, a 7-day, one park per day base ticket will cost my family $1337 (because hey, the 4 year old wouldn't be free!) plus $15 per day for parking if we choose to stay off-site. That's over a $1000 more just for tickets alone. Add in the overpriced hotels and inflated dining costs, and you are looking at spending several thousands more for a trip to WDW. The value is just no longer there for many people.
Animaniac93-98
Well-Known Member
Shoot, I can spend the next 8 hours on Youtube watching videos of entertainment direct from WDW for free!
See how silly this argument can get?
Andrew C
You know what's funny?
Thanks, you are making it very silly. That was not my argument at all, but I appreciate the silliness.
wogwog
Well-Known Member
I will add another added cost to running the Iger fiasco that probably was not expected. The entire "magic" stuff is so complicated and hard for guests to understand several new job titles were created and staffed. The easiest one to see are the sort of lime green shirts at the kiosks all over the park. I know one of them. She says the Magic Kingdom alone has 180 kiosk attendants or more now. You can bet the other three parks have at least another 120 or so each. Created only because the system is so complicated even when it works. Some of them call each other zombie trainers, away from the guests of course, as the guests often walk away in complete confusion.
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Yes. My niece, who has been traveling with us to WDW for many years, (she is now in her 20's), had a chance recently to visit both DisneySea and Tokyo Disneyland. She said each was not much more than a half day park, not much better than AK or Studios. She was trying to show her fiance how much fun a Disney park could be, and she was disappointed with both, she wishes she was at WDW.
Google can be a useful resource.
Nubs70
Well-Known Member
The Avengers have become the Diciples of the Walking Dead?
tirian
Well-Known Member
TDR? That's impossible. The lines alone make that impossible. Sorry, your niece is wrong.
Edit: I'm sorry if I sound like a jerk. I don't mean it that way.
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NearTheEars
Well-Known Member
As I've said before, I haven't experienced it yet, but in theory I don't see how it's confusing. The kiosk is like a one stop shop: pick your 3 FP rides and times and unless you want to change one you're good to go for the day. And if you have a smartphone you can follow along on the app.
Maybe I'll understand once they give all AP a shot at it.
Lee
Adventurer
I think she must have done something wrong.
If TDL is a half-day park, MK can be done before lunch.
Off topic but can anybody give me the names of any of the twitter/facebook handles of the "lifestylers"? Besides Lou, I have no idea who the others are and would appreciate a nudge in the right direction. Thanks.
Goofnut1980
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I know... I just ordered out DVC PAPs last week with the deal they have going on and literally last night we went to the Disney Store here in Columbus and I purchased two 5 day park hoppers for some friends going with us in May.. Good thing I did that last night.. Saved a bundle!