Ticket Price Increase - Feb 2014

Nubs70

Well-Known Member
I am not familiar with what Six Flags does. I see this in addition to the 3 free FP+/day. If you have used up all FP+ scheduled appointments or on an unscheduled FP+, one could bypass standby for a price. Wave your MagicBand, punch in key code, and on the ride you go, for an additional fee. Want to ride Splash 40 times in a day? Sure you can!!!! for an additional $200.
And to add
If 20 people an hour pay an extra $5 to gain immediate access, imagine what this would do to CM labor costs. This alone would pay for the CM's labor cost for that specific ride and a portion of the CM labor cost at less popular attractions.
 
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40goingon7

Member
Lets look at some single/day ticket prices at some premiere locations:

If I wanted to see The Lion King on Broadway for a 2pm Saturday showing, a single ticket for the 2.5/3hr show is $133.65 for the cheapest ticket

Yankee's tickets range from $18 (bleachers) to $300 for VIP seats (that's gameday price)

A one-day adult ticket price at Vail is $120 (ski hours are 9:00am - 3:30pm give or take)

So what are we really looking at? Seems to me people spend more for less at a lot of other areas. If Disney has out priced people they will see a drop in attendance and need to readjust. Also, we need to remember that later this summer or Nov if you prefer the Uni time-line, people will have to buy combined two park tickets to enjoy the full Potter experience. Not really apples to apples anyway you slice it (pun intended)
 

Hakunamatata

Le Meh
Premium Member
That's a direct result of tax payers not voting the people into office that have the interest of the tax payer in mind.
And let me go on to clarify that by tax payers I mean those who pay more in taxes than receive in their tax return because there is a system to game there.
 

Brian Noble

Well-Known Member
So what are we really looking at? Seems to me people spend more for less at a lot of other areas.
Absolutely. A couple weeks ago, I bought tickets for an exhibition game between Tottenham Hotspur and the Chicago Fire, to be played this July. A two hour match, that doesn't count for anything, $125 for mid-field seats, plus service charges and tax.
 

wdisney9000

Truindenashendubapreser
Premium Member
I am not dead yet, but this bronchitis really has me down so I won't be going back and forth today.

I just want to know how many of you have called WDW's switchboard and demanded to be (politely, of course) connected to Georgie K's office? Or to Phil Holmes (he has no power, but he is such a cretin, he deserves folks clogging his voicemail and making his secretaries crazy!) How about Meg Crofton?

Pardon the question, but do they actually connect you to Holmes, Crofton, or Georgies office if you ask? I would have thought they avoid customers like the plague. I will definitely call, even if it only ends in leaving a voice mail. We (wife and I) let our AP's expire this year because we do not want any of our dollars helping TDO or Iger validate that MM+ is worth whatever they have spent on it and I would love to give them an EARful.

We made the decision to not renew because we felt we had to do something. I think its time for the next step and I am taking your advice and calling, posting, tweeting, writing as often as I can in attempt to raise awareness. At the rate they are dismantling the magic, something has to be done.

Hope you feel better. I had bronchitis 2 years ago and it hurt like 8 b*tches on a b*tch boat.
 

Hakunamatata

Le Meh
Premium Member
And, please, stop ... just STOP bringing Obamacare and unions into this. It's an absolute crock of total fetid BS that either are playing ANY role in this.

So, go hate the Prez and unions elsewhere. They have nothing to do with this.

The fact Bob Iger can't deliver results to Wall Street that he guaranteed has everything to do with this.
If that's the case I guess everything that can be said has been said and @The Mom can lock this baby down.
 

WDW1974

Well-Known Member
And if you folks really want to bring up the inane argument that ''well, tickets for an NBA game or a Broadway play ...'' you are just completely missing the point.

Not only are you comparing apples with BBQ ... but you are also fundamentally misrepresenting the facts. You can see a sporting event for reasonable money (even an NBA game in some cities) all over the USA ... and while Broadway costs a lot, you can get half off tickets AND that doesn't count all the plays and musicals that are put on all over the country for MUCH less than Broadway pricing.

It's just not a correct debate, yet it's one that ignorantly gets trotted out everytime Disney raises its prices.
 

Hakunamatata

Le Meh
Premium Member
And if you folks really want to bring up the inane argument that ''well, tickets for an NBA game or a Broadway play ...'' you are just completely missing the point.

Not only are you comparing apples with BBQ ... but you are also fundamentally misrepresenting the facts. You can see a sporting event for reasonable money (even an NBA game in some cities) ... and while Broadway costs a lot, you can get half off tickets AND that doesn't count all the plays and musicals that are put on all over the country for MUCH less than Broadway pricing.

It's just not a correct debate, yet it's one that ignorantly gets trotted out everytime Disney raises its prices.
So the only acceptable reason for a price increase is TDO or TDC leadership ineptness now? Well as far as this discussion is concerned. And I'm not putting this out there to fan flames, that's just the perception I'm getting.
 

WDW1974

Well-Known Member
Pardon the question, but do they actually connect you to Holmes, Crofton, or Georgies office if you ask? I would have thought they avoid customers like the plague. I will definitely call, even if it only ends in leaving a voice mail. We (wife and I) let our AP's expire this year because we do not want any of our dollars helping TDO or Iger validate that MM+ is worth whatever they have spent on it and I would love to give them an EARful.

We made the decision to not renew because we felt we had to do something. I think its time for the next step and I am taking your advice and calling, posting, tweeting, writing as often as I can in attempt to raise awareness. At the rate they are dismantling the magic, something has to be done.

Hope you feel better. I had bronchitis 2 years ago and it hurt like 8 b*tches on a b*tch boat.

Yes, they will. Call the switchboard ...although ANY/EVERY CM on this board has access to every exec's direct lines (some that include cell and, even, home). They have to connect you to the office, after that ... they'll try the blowoff and send you the call center at the Studios that deals with people who dare contact execs.

And thanks. Looking at a screen does not help, so I am out of here ... can't wait to read the next 34 pages here tomorrow.
 

jlsHouston

Well-Known Member
Well, some of us have been throwing out the "corporate greed" card way before it was en vogue. To not see the factual correlation between what is almost becoming an oligarch type society in many sectors and the profiteering by corporations is looking blindly at the situation then.

A company like the Walt Disney Company used to be comprised of small investors including the family with a share or two, medium sized investors, pension systems, and a cabal of various investment firms and/or individuals. That's not what is going on today. Most of our major corporations are controlled by investment groups-firms/private equity and/or corporate raider "activist" slime like Carl Icahn. The job of the corporation is to be a money making press for these small number of individuals today. I'm quite a firm believer in a very capitalistic society, but what's going on here is insane.

There is a reason why this is being called the Guilded Age Part 2. For all the crap that people own from their iPhone to tablets to whatever, they pay rates that are off the charts here in the United States compared to the same services throughout the world and think that they have it great, yet have no savings and their money bleeds to these companies. When it's now considered a great deal to get cell phone service for $45 a month or cable TV for less than a $100, ask our friends elsewhere and their eyes pop out at high those costs are compared to theirs.

Bob Iger's only true job is to create a return for these few groups that control the vast interest in the Walt Disney Company and only the naive would think that he doesn't look to continue to line his own pockets. If the company goes to mush in five years, why'd he care? He's out and he's cashed out. For all of Eisner's ills, ego (duh, it's the entertainment business), I think it was always clear that he gave a damn about the company and it's heritage actually meant something. I wonder when a MARVEL (R) comic staring superhero Walt Disney is coming from the Iger crowd?

You forgot we enjoy the highest health care costs of any developed country in the world and when economists debate why.....well the best answer I read was because they can.
 

Nubs70

Well-Known Member
Yes, how dare you voice an opinion that is different than this. ;)
Or how about expanding on your original hypothesis to support your contention that large city entertainment price points are on par with WDW? WDW74 made a rebuttal, so rebut the rebuttal. So take the ball and play.
 

alphac2005

Well-Known Member
Lets look at some single/day ticket prices at some premiere locations:

If I wanted to see The Lion King on Broadway for a 2pm Saturday showing, a single ticket for the 2.5/3hr show is $133.65 for the cheapest ticket

Yankee's tickets range from $18 (bleachers) to $300 for VIP seats (that's gameday price)

A one-day adult ticket price at Vail is $120 (ski hours are 9:00am - 3:30pm give or take)

So what are we really looking at? Seems to me people spend more for less at a lot of other areas. If Disney has out priced people they will see a drop in attendance and need to readjust. Also, we need to remember that later this summer or Nov if you prefer the Uni time-line, people will have to buy combined two park tickets to enjoy the full Potter experience. Not really apples to apples anyway you slice it (pun intended)

You've cited one of the most expensive cities in this country and the world along with one of the highest cost ski resort areas in this country. Not exactly a great comparison with the vast population and is size of the rest of this country. Having grown up in the tri-state area, sometimes it's rather difficult to get people there to understand that the whole universe doesn't revolve around NYC and it's a heck of a lot cheaper to do things in many other areas.
 

englanddg

One Little Spark...
You've cited one of the most expensive cities in this country and the world along with one of the highest cost ski resort areas in this country. Not exactly a great comparison with the vast population and is size of the rest of this country. Having grown up in the tri-state area, sometimes it's rather difficult to get people there to understand that the whole universe doesn't revolve around NYC and it's a heck of a lot cheaper to do things in many other areas.
Plus...Vail is highly overrated. As is Breckenridge.
 

crispy

Well-Known Member
And if you folks really want to bring up the inane argument that ''well, tickets for an NBA game or a Broadway play ...'' you are just completely missing the point.

Not only are you comparing apples with BBQ ... but you are also fundamentally misrepresenting the facts. You can see a sporting event for reasonable money (even an NBA game in some cities) all over the USA ... and while Broadway costs a lot, you can get half off tickets AND that doesn't count all the plays and musicals that are put on all over the country for MUCH less than Broadway pricing.

It's just not a correct debate, yet it's one that ignorantly gets trotted out everytime Disney raises its prices.

Exactly! We went to see the traveling Broadway versions Beauty and the Beast and The Lion King last year and spent around $45 for each ticket (the cheapest seats would have been half that). Tickets for our small, local community theater is $10. Heck, I saw Garth Brooks in concert three years ago for $11 (blame it all on my roots...). Choosing the highest priced entertainment options around ("It's cheaper than Super Bowl tickets!") and comparing them to Disney ticket prices makes no sense.

I think a better comparison is OTHER theme parks. I can get an adult one-day adult ticket to Dollywood for $58, a one-day adult ticket to Busch Gardens Williamsburg for $72 (with better deals to be had by buying a Bounce Pass), a one-day adult ticket to Hershey Park for $60, a one-day adult ticket to Holiday World and Splashin' Safari for $45 ($40 if I purchase online), etc., etc., etc. I am just listing places we have visited in the last few years. Even better, most of these places offer ways to get discount tickets which is something that is almost impossible at WDW.

I know many will argue that these parks aren't Disney, and they are right, but I would put a BGW against a Disney park any day - awesome theming, great rides, friendly employees, and absolutely beautiful landscaping and ambience. Plus, the food was a lot better. As far as customer service and cleanliness, Holiday World has some of the best I have ever experienced - plus they offer free soft drinks (take that RFID mugs!). The Hershey Lodge was an awesome hotel and far cheaper than any on-site WDW hotel. All of these parks have many great things to offer, and many of them are HALF the price of a one-day ticket to the MK.
 

Andrew C

You know what's funny?
You've cited one of the most expensive cities in this country and the world along with one of the highest cost ski resort areas in this country. Not exactly a great comparison with the vast population and is size of the rest of this country. Having grown up in the tri-state area, sometimes it's rather difficult to get people there to understand that the whole universe doesn't revolve around NYC and it's a heck of a lot cheaper to do things in many other areas.

I don't really want to keep this going and would rather organize a DCL cruise for everyone who is ed right now...but I will bite. San Antonio Spurs. $25 tickets for rather cheap seats...for 2 hours of entertainment. Multiply $25 by 5 to get 10 hours of entertainment to equal the length of entertainment at a day at MK. That is $125

This DOES NOT mean I like the raise in ticket prices. I just think it is about in line with all forms of entertainment in this country.
 

40goingon7

Member
And if you folks really want to bring up the inane argument that ''well, tickets for an NBA game or a Broadway play ...'' you are just completely missing the point.

Not only are you comparing apples with BBQ ... but you are also fundamentally misrepresenting the facts. You can see a sporting event for reasonable money (even an NBA game in some cities) all over the USA ... and while Broadway costs a lot, you can get half off tickets AND that doesn't count all the plays and musicals that are put on all over the country for MUCH less than Broadway pricing.

It's just not a correct debate, yet it's one that ignorantly gets trotted out everytime Disney raises its prices.


The comparison I was making was premiere events. Sure I could go to another amusement/theme park for less than half it would cost for a day at MK, or get some tickets to a ball game for the Montana Pacemakers cheap off craigslist, or I could wait in line at theTKTS booth in TimeSquare to get half off a Broadway show (Not Lion King by the way) I don't want to see. If I want to see Harry Potter Land or Fly Dumbo, ride Pirates, etc... I have to go to those locations. If I want to see LeBron play I have to go to those games, he is not playing anywhere near where I am. So I pay the money to go, or I stay home. Heck I could sit through a 2 hour presentation for a timeshare I can get a free ticket to WDW but I didn't make that argument either. There are ways to offset/reduce the price for almost everything we spend money on but you have to be willing to look/try that approach. There really is no argument for either side. Disney, like everything else, is a business. Increase price, increase profits, pay shareholders, repeat... People will either pay the price or not go.
 

maxairmike

Well-Known Member
Roughly $60.50 for a one day ticket for DisneySea/Tokyo Disneyland, roughly 40% less than a ticket here. Do you feel WDW merits that price difference?* I think that's the kind of comparison that should be made, or comparing the current parks to their former standards.

*Full disclosure, I haven't been, but I'm working hard to make it happen in the next 5-10 years.
 

Millionaire2K

Active Member
Ok well then I guess an adult movie ticket should cost $100 because Broadway charges it?

Or a DVD should cost $300 because you can get years of enjoyment from it?

You cannot justify high prices by comparing different forms of entertainment.

Besides... Broadway is expensive because they are BIG shows in little theaters. Only a small amount of people can see a show at a single time. If a theme park had limited admission (Discovery Cove) people would understand the higher prices.
 

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