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[SilentWindODoom]

Oh jeez. Discussion is fast and furious. It didn't help that I've got religious meetings Thursday nights and had to run before I got a chance to finish this and it biggered and biggered.

There's a sense of humor in setting scenes that Disney used to do so well.
From Pirates, to Jungle Cruise, to Splash etc...
Most of that seems to be lost to an unnecessary realism - even when animated characters are involved.
Scenes can look "better" now if you will, but they don't work better.

One of the storks hooked another's hat.
Three bits of physical comedy with the traps backfiring.
The reverse-psychology if you don't count that as a part of the previous backfires.

I don't really think of Splash Mountain as being full of gags. It's not a Marc Davis production. There were animatronics stripped out of one, but the context where they were a part of gags is gone.

Both very good points. There are no funny gags, the kind Marc Davis was so good at, in something like Rise of the Resistance or Mickey's Runaway Railway.

What? Runaway Railway has plenty of little jokes and gags peppered throughout.

so what scene have we not seen yet? the one with the shack? and then whatever else is after the laughin place? Everything else I think we have now more or less been shown...or...

While we have seen aerials of the tippy top, here's the portions of the ride we've gotten a clear look at. In color has been seen in photography and video. Black and white are still complete mysteries.

A lot we've yet to see.

But it looks like every scene shown also is this as well. The characters just staring at us and talking to us. I'm not going to jump to any conclusions and let this bring me down because, again, we have no idea what the dialogue will be. It could end up being very well-written and funny and makes sense and therefore cause me to look past the "characters always addressing the guests" thing, but it does make me feel a bit bad. This is the thing I don't like about Frozen. It's so boring to me. They're just constantly talking to us and telling us what to look forward to instead of us just seeing them doing literally anything other than standing and talking to us. The part where Olaf is skating around is the best part of that entire ride.

Well, if it makes you feel any better, it appears by the clip towards the end that the Tiana we see listening to the varmint and bear bands doesn't open her mouth and is just delighted. Louis is 30/30/30 on talking to Tiana, us, or just declaring to the open air. And the finale seems to just be a party we're sailing past with Lottie spotting us.

It should also be acknowledged that the primary goal of the recent generation of dark rides of which TBA is a part is not primarily “storytelling” but to function as synergistic advertisements for multimedia franchises. We know that this is the mandate - it’s not a secret - and the attractions should be evaluated with that in mind.

What does that mean? That we should judge something on how well it synergizes? That if it succeeds, it should get extra credit for being handicapped at the start?

Or is it that we should assume that every new attraction built is going to be a failure and constantly watch along saying that everything will fail and speak in certain terms about every uncertain thing in every discussion about them?

That’s weird and must speak to the business of the scene. No scenario where you show me a ride through of Splash and I came out thinking there was only 4 (critter) AA’s. On the bright side the scene doesn’t feel dead but I’m not sure I’m loving the execution from what I’ve seen so far.

It's honestly not the highest quality video and many views are a bit wider and don't focus where the eye naturally does.

I think a general consensus by professionals is enough of an objective truth of a piece of art. We can always disagree, but when 90% of professional critics are saying a film is bad for a variety of cited reasons, it is likely that the film is bad. We can still enjoy it despite those flaws or have a different perspective unique to our own, but I would still call the film a flawed movie objectively.

Hehehe. I don't think you've ever looked at the critic/audience score ratios on Rotten Tomatoes. Often "professional" consensus and opinion does not mean the best product.

So Tiana never appears as Princess? It's so weird they made up this plot with food and species instead of use the story of the movie and Dr Facilier as villain.

Tell that to a little girl who wants to dress up as a princess.

You can roll your eyes, but are girls heading to Bibbidy Bobbidy Bootique more likely to seek out the "princess dress" or a Pith Helmet? My experience with young kids, they are going to be drawn to the frilly pretty thing. Iconography is important in fictional characters. Its why we see Indy in his fedora and leather jacket instead of him in a Tux or a T-shirt.

I never argued that kids wouldn't have a good time. You were the one saying that Tiana can wear whatever because the outfit doesn't dictate her character. And I argued that her Princess status in the eyes of children is tied to the iconography the film established.

That's why I don't think her not wearing the dress hurts her as a character or storytelling, but I was willing to concede that if viewing Tiana as a "Disney Princess," the new attraction doesn't appear to check that box. All in all, I think the Princess aspect is the least interesting aspect of her character and kind of feels forced considering her goal was just to be a business owner, so I personally don't have a need to be reminded of that aspect of her character.

Tiana can be met at Princess Fairytale Hall. Right near Bibbidi-Bobbidi-Boutique. In her dress. Besides my earlier comments on the dress, there's the fact that they're jampacking the only portion of the ride where it would fit and likely didn't want to try to fit the large gown.

I mean, I can show up to Comic Con in shorts and a Hawaiian shirt and say I'm Tony Stark since he could wear that, but I'm not going to win the Costume Contest or inspire many folks to buy my cosplay merch.

I mean... if it's a shirt he wore in a movie... I'm sure there would be a large amount of people who would recognize it, compliment you, and even a few coming wearing the same thing.

If Tony shows up in khakis and a red Hawaiian shirt in the Avengers Ephemeral E-Ticket, I'm sure there'd be three "Theme Park Tony"s in San Diego next year.

Nobody said girls are going to break into tears or look around wondering where Tiana is. No need to Strawman the argument.

Someone else was making the argument that Tiana not being seen in either iconic dress in the finale was a miss for the Princess angle. Another poster then said her outfit doesn't matter as she's still a princess in the world of the character, no matter what she wears. I was simply responding to that point that her princess allure is tied to iconography rather than any aspect of her character. She's not living in a castle or acting "like a princess" in a fantasy aspect. It is the dresses she wears when mistaken for a princess and at the end when she becomes a princess that cement her as a princess in the eyes of many consumers.

I don't think her dress is SUPER important. But I was in disagreement that it isn't important at all, and that's why I responded as I feel, based off the information provided, her dress does hold some importantance in how the character is viewed and remembered by consumers.

Yeah, I'm not gonna lie, the argument sounded so similar that I was going to counter you directly said that, but I went back to my last post and realized that was mickEblu, not you. With the avalanche of messages, I was conflating the two.

It's also a little different than say Frozen (where Elsa is dressed like a princess for basically the entire film). Tiana for a huge portion of the film is not dressed that way.

Oh yeah! I forgot the two of them since I used the Princess line list and they're their own line. It doesn't hurt that the first film takes place in, like, a couple of days with no time for changing.

It all harkens back to when ingenue characters were not given much character beyond being nice and fawning over another beautiful person with a typically higher status. Luckily, writing has improved across the board and Tiana has a lot more character than being "just a princess."

I think the early princesses get a bad rap. Cinderella in particular is a spirited young woman with real dimension to her character.

I agree. I went back and watched Cinderella and Sleeping Beauty fairly recently. I was shocked by how much more strong-willed they were than popular culture assumes and often portrays them. Cindy is rather snarky and resourceful. Aurora is strong-willed and sly. Both don't just innocently believe their lives are their lives, but yearn for different and want to rebel.

Snow White is still, just, almost nothing.

Wow they were around back then?

I remember circa 1998/1999 being a Junior in high school and just wanting to find a video of Splash Mountain on the internet. All I could find was a tiny little grainy 10 second snippet on the Disneyland website. I think they had a little video snippet of every ride that you could click on. Crazy to think that 25 years ago if you wanted to see a video of an attraction that meant you had to have brought a camcorder on the ride and filmed it yourself. Or watch the Disneyland version of Disney Sing alongs.

Apparently the end of last year was my 20-year anniversary. I remember adding and removing numbers and playing Jafar in a murder mystery being hosted by Jiminy Cricket in the games section. Good times.

 

[JoeCamel]

Oh jeez. Discussion is fast and furious. It didn't help that I've got religious meetings Thursday nights and had to run before I got a chance to finish this and it biggered and biggered.



One of the storks hooked another's hat.
Three bits of physical comedy with the traps backfiring.
The reverse-psychology if you don't count that as a part of the previous backfires.

I don't really think of Splash Mountain as being full of gags. It's not a Marc Davis production. There were animatronics stripped out of one, but the context where they were a part of gags is gone.



What? Runaway Railway has plenty of little jokes and gags peppered throughout.



While we have seen aerials of the tippy top, here's the portions of the ride we've gotten a clear look at. In color has been seen in photography and video. Black and white are still complete mysteries.

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A lot we've yet to see.



Well, if it makes you feel any better, it appears by the clip towards the end that the Tiana we see listening to the varmint and bear bands doesn't open her mouth and is just delighted. Louis is 30/30/30 on talking to Tiana, us, or just declaring to the open air. And the finale seems to just be a party we're sailing past with Lottie spotting us.



What does that mean? That we should judge something on how well it synergizes? That if it succeeds, it should get extra credit for being handicapped at the start?

Or is it that we should assume that every new attraction built is going to be a failure and constantly watch along saying that everything will fail and speak in certain terms about every uncertain thing in every discussion about them?



It's honestly not the highest quality video and many views are a bit wider and don't focus where the eye naturally does.



Hehehe. I don't think you've ever looked at the critic/audience score ratios on Rotten Tomatoes. Often "professional" consensus and opinion does not mean the best product.











Tiana can be met at Princess Fairytale Hall. Right near Bibbidi-Bobbidi-Boutique. In her dress. Besides my earlier comments on the dress, there's the fact that they're jampacking the only portion of the ride where it would fit and likely didn't want to try to fit the large gown.



I mean... if it's a shirt he wore in a movie... I'm sure there would be a large amount of people who would recognize it, compliment you, and even a few coming wearing the same thing.

If Tony shows up in khakis and a red Hawaiian shirt in the Avengers Ephemeral E-Ticket, I'm sure there'd be three "Theme Park Tony"s in San Diego next year.





Yeah, I'm not gonna lie, the argument sounded so similar that I was going to counter you directly said that, but I went back to my last post and realized that was mickEblu, not you. With the avalanche of messages, I was conflating the two.



Oh yeah! I forgot the two of them since I used the Princess line list and they're their own line. It doesn't hurt that the first film takes place in, like, a couple of days with no time for changing.





I agree. I went back and watched Cinderella and Sleeping Beauty fairly recently. I was shocked by how much more strong-willed they were than popular culture assumes and often portrays them. Cindy is rather snarky and resourceful. Aurora is strong-willed and sly. Both don't just innocently believe their lives are their lives, but yearn for different and want to rebel.

Snow White is still, just, almost nothing.



Apparently the end of last year was my 20-year anniversary. I remember adding and removing numbers and playing Jafar in a murder mystery being hosted by Jiminy Cricket in the games section. Good times.

You working towards a doctorate with that thesis?

 

[SilentWindODoom]

You working towards a doctorate with that thesis?

If I were faster, they'd be shorter. And I don't like making each reply a post.

 

[TheCoasterNerd]

 

[_caleb]

I know people here hate when AAs look at/talk to/gesture toward guests on the ride, but as a kid, I always thought it was super strange that the pirates on PotC never even acknowledged boatloads of gawking tourists floating by.

 

[waltography]

It's catchy and got a swing, already stuck in my head. I like it a lot! I do wish it was sing more full-throated/belted rather than mixed (and that Anika opted up at the very end), as right now it reads as great exit music rather than grand finale. I wonder if we'll get a different mix in the ride.

 

[SilentWindODoom]

Lotta horribly corny lyrics. Fortunately, it's so catchy that all of that just falls to the wayside.

 

[Disney Analyst]

 

[mickEblu]

It's catchy and got a swing, already stuck in my head. I like it a lot! I do wish it was sing more full-throated/belted rather than mixed (and that Anika opted up at the very end), as right now it reads as great exit music rather than grand finale. I wonder if we'll get a different mix in the ride.

Exactly it. Sounds like exit music not a grand finale. Something about the delivery in the first verse though is just off. I only made it halfway through the first hook. So I’m not sure about the second verse.

 

[waltography]

That's fantastic. Hard to hear on video but once you hear it, it's a little magical.

 

[Disney Analyst]

That's fantastic. Hard to hear on video but once you hear it, it's a little magical.

I’m very happy they have nighttime sound. I figured they would.

 

[BrianLo]

Separating out a few flaws here and there and the generalized nostalgia factor at play. I'm super glad they've made an animatronic laden, musical ride, with original park created music, original characters and an original storyline. It's treating the parks as their own creative medium in a positive way that allows a new generation of imagineering to actually work on something we generally want more of. I know what it's laid overtop of, but you learn from the back of iconographic past imagineers.


Now that said, I look forward for our medium term future when everyone complains they now make too many animatronic boat rides and wish they'd build more screen simulators again.

 

[larryz]

So Tiana never appears as Princess?

That could be a good thing -- when I lived in Louisiana, "Bayou Princess" had a whole different meaning...

 

[wdwmagic]

Music from Tiana's Bayou Adventure Now Available on Streaming Platforms​

Music from Tiana's Bayou Adventure Now Available on Streaming Platforms

Music from Tiana's Bayou Adventure Now Available on Streaming Platforms

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[Surferboy567]

I think it’s dumb to not have her in her traditional princess outfit once at least. I get they are trying to pivot away from the whole princessy angle, but putting her in the outfit that’s she‘s most known for at least one scene/AA isn’t going to hurt. It can also be argued that is gonna sell the merch.

It’s not the end all be all, its just a weird decision.

 

[Surferboy567]

Music from Tiana's Bayou Adventure Now Available on Streaming Platforms​

Music from Tiana's Bayou Adventure Now Available on Streaming Platforms

Music from Tiana's Bayou Adventure Now Available on Streaming Platforms

www.wdwmagic.com

Does this mean we won’t be getting any of the other music on a soundtrack like a melody ride though?

 

[LittleBuford]

I think it’s dumb to not have her in her traditional princess outfit once at least. I get they are trying to pivot away from the whole princessy angle, but putting her in the outfit that’s she‘s most known for at least one scene/AA isn’t going to hurt. It can also be argued that is gonna sell the merch.

It’s not the end all be all, its just a weird decision.

I feel it would have been a weird decision to show her rewearing her wedding gown.

 

[pigglewiggle]

Love the music you can hear outside around the ride. I happen to personally like it better than what we heard previously with Splash, but I just enjoy this kind of music more.

 

[Haymarket2008]

This is adorable. It’s giving big 1990’s parade/Disney Renaissance vibes.

 

[Surferboy567]

This is adorable. It’s giving big 1990’s parade/Disney Renaissance vibes.

Very catchy as well definitely an earworm even if the lyrics are a little more wordy then I would have thought.