MK Tiana's Bayou Adventure - latest details and construction progress

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SilentWindODoom

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Given that he was dragged to the underworld by the powerful beings whose Faustian deals were implied to be the only thing giving him any power at all, I have little faith in an escape for Facilier barring them changing their mind. Semantically in some voodoo underworld facing the horrors within, but functionally dead.

I know they're cartoon characters and you can do whatever you want, but attractions-wise, other villains that died in their films have appeared in book-report rides where you're travelling in the middle of the story, not afterward. Heck, they often wind up dying in the end afterward.

Aside from non-canon celebrations and shows, are there any dead villains or any other characters that just come back? Are we going Descendants rules? Nevertheless, throwing up hands and reciting the MST3K mantra feels as much of a sin as visual intrusion.
 
MerlinTheGoat

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SilentWindODoom said:
Aside from non-canon celebrations and shows, are there any dead villains or any other characters that just come back?
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Hercules brought Meg back to life. There was also a crossover episode of the Aladdin and Hercules animated TV shows where Hades brings Jafar back to life. I also mentioned The Black Cauldron, where the main villain brings an army of skeletons back to life (and the main villain himself may not be entirely "alive" either, since his face resembles a skeletal corpse).

The Pirates of the Caribbean franchise is filled with voodoo resurrection magic. Tia Dalma resurrects Barbossa. Blackbeard creates a handful of zombies for his crew. The after credits scene of the fifth and final movie also hinted at Davy Jones' return.

Again, the ideal way to handle Facilier's appearance in this ride is not even to bring him back to life fully, but to have him manage to lure guests down to where he was sent. That way we would have gotten a really cool scene of the Other Side alongside Facilier himself, his song and all of the elements needed to make the final lift and big drop work together.

I've suggested using his tomb as the entrance of the final small drop. They could take it a step further by having the stone relief of his face smirk down evilly at guests from above while his shadow familiar appears to gesture people inside. His success at luring souls down there in spite of his imprisonment would gain him back considerable clout and favor among the spirits. At least until the guests manage to escape.
 
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gianguy said:
I don't think it's fair to assume that one storyline is more "scary" than the other with how little we actually know right now. A rabbit being chased by a bear and a fox certainly adds an element of suspense / tension to the ride, but I wouldn't call it "scary." Especially when you consider the actual story element to Splash isn't really revealed until you're actually on the ride, aside from some light teasing in the queue. There's no reason to assume TBA won't take the same approach, especially with how much of the ride experience itself they're keeping under wraps. We can't possibly know that the ride is devoid of all conflict until it opens and we can see for ourselves, or we're explicitly told so. First timers are not basing their decision to ride on the storyline, something they know nothing about if they haven't ridden before. They're basing it off the drop, briar patch or not.
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Wait, wait, hold the phone, wait… You’re saying the ride isn’t going to be one giant presentation to potential shareholders in a food co-op highlighting the value of purchasing shares in the co-op, with commentary on the profitably and sustainability of said co-op? Because that’s what I led to believe we were getting in this thread.
 
Lirael

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Fido Chuckwagon said:
That wasn’t the story of splash?
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It is. People are mistaking not noticing details and nuance (like the reverse psychology used by B'rer Rabbit) with not understanding the story

Even as a little kid that still didn't understand english (not my native language) and as someone who had never watched/read/heard about Song of the South, the gist of the plot was always very clear to me: Rabbit sets off, bad animals want to catch rabbit, rabbit constantly escapes them. Yes, the reverse psychology bit took a long while to understand, but the core story was easy.
 
BrerFoxesBayouAdventure

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Lirael said:
It is. People are mistaking not noticing details and nuance (like the reverse psychology used by B'rer Rabbit) with not understanding the story

Even as a little kid that still didn't understand english (not my native language) and as someone who had never watched/read/heard about Song of the South, the gist of the plot was always very clear to me: Rabbit sets off, bad animals want to catch rabbit, rabbit constantly escapes them. Yes, the reverse psychology bit took a long while to understand, but the core story was easy.
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When initially going on the ride, I can see why people wouldn't recognize Br'er Rabbit using reverse psychology. But upon subsequent rerides it becomes rather obvious what he's trying to do.
 
Smooth

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Disney is actually working on a real shrinking device. I was able to obtain this insider photo:
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MerlinTheGoat

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Andrew M said:
Unless I missed something, has this been confirmed yet?
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Facilier was not included among the list of returning character in PR statements, nor was Keith David among the returning voice actors. The entirety of the final lift is supposed to be Mama Odie's house. And if Splash Archive's claims are correct, the bottom most level of the Laughing Place is going to have additional scenes with Tiana and Naveen in the swamp. I don't think Disney is going to actively confirm Facilier's absence from the ride, but we have ample amounts of official and rumored evidence that he's not included.

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It’s also (unfortunately IMO) outdated info from the “Louis centered” version of the ride that they abandoned.
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Was something else said in the podcast to indicate that it's old information?
 
Lirael

Lirael

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MerlinTheGoat said:
Facilier was not included among the list of returning character in PR statements, nor was Keith David among the returning voice actors. The entirety of the final lift is supposed to be Mama Odie's house.
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This is, by far, the worst decision for Splash to me. Part of the thrill of the fall is the setup of the lift. You had a whole journey of happy songs, and suddenly you go up to this eerie tune and ambience, which helped add to the thrill of the whole thing

Mama Odie isn't going to scare anyone. Going up to happy songs and ambience is going to diminish the excitement for the fall, which is the whole gist of the ride. And of all IPs, Tiana had the literal perfect song for the lift. Friends on the other side singing "are you ready" at the part might have made the fall even more exciting.
 
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