News Tiana's Bayou Adventure - latest details and construction progress

Castle Cake Apologist

Castle Cake Apologist

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MerlinTheGoat said:
These are very interesting. And believe it or not, they've actually partially alleviated some of my concerns about there only being 6 AA's. They do indeed look legitimate, and I can imagine it's fairly accurate to the sets they construct. But it's also clear that the renders can't be used to assume how many AA's there are going to be.

One of these renders is just the empty set without any of the figures inserted yet. Another render shows the lefthand building (formerly occupied by the Swamp Boys) with Eudora and Charlotte. But two of the other renders are of the main building (where the riverboat's wheel used to be) showing two different sets of figures each occupying the same platform. One variant has Tiana and Louis, the other variant has Naveen and Ralphie. So they were still testing different AA's and placements when these renders were made.

I also have a feeling that this isn't accurate to the quantity of figures either. The buildings are very similar to the old Riverboat in the sense that they have a lot of empty spaces and platforms on the stairs, sides and upper level where it looks like other AA's could/should be placed. So until further notice, I suggest taking the "only 6 AA's" claim with a grain of salt. We'll see, but it makes me strongly suspect there will be more figures in the final version. Either critters or also additional human characters as well. Just a hunch, but you have my reasoning now.
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Am I missing something here? What renderings are we talking about?
 
MerlinTheGoat

MerlinTheGoat

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Popularity and long lines does not determine whether an attraction is good. Maelstrom generally being walk-on is also completely untrue. It was rare that the line didn't stretch out to 30+ minutes even even in its waning years. Keep in mind that Frozen's wait times are heavily inflated due to Fastpass+ (now Genie), a service that was only briefly available for Maelstrom very late in its life.

Castle Cake Apologist said:
Am I missing something here? What renderings are we talking about?
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Someone posted some CGI images of Tiana's new finale that Splash Archive said he had. The post seems to have been deleted however. I assume they were shared in private and then posted without permission.
 
UNCgolf

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rdoncsecz said:
We (the WDW Disney Enthusiasts) often have a different viewpoint from the every day targeted Disney guest. The Frozen ride is immensely popular. Maelstrom had a place in all of our heart's, but the wait times were average walk on VS. Frozen which is consistently 60 minutes.

Again, the historian and avid fan (most of this board) may have different views, but the echo chamber we converse in shouldn't be the end all/be all on how successful this ride is for the park.
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That's a different argument, though -- being more successful for park operations doesn't automatically mean it's a higher quality attraction. It's more popular because it's Frozen and Frozen is a massive draw. It's an example of why Disney wants to infuse IP into everything; the IP itself can act as a draw even when the attraction is mediocre.

That said, the 60 minute wait for Frozen isn't that big of a deal because it has a very low capacity. A 15-20 minute wait for Spaceship Earth, e.g., is basically equivalent to a 60+ minute wait for Frozen in terms of how many people are actually waiting to ride.
 
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Disney Analyst

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I only take exception with the "Frozen didn't fix Maelstrom's brevity" critique.

While it isn't THAT much longer, it does have added show space that Maelstrom did not have.



Frozen is roughly 1 extra minute from start to finish based on reviewing a few videos ... or a 5 minute ride vs a 4 minute ride.

Now critique of the art direction / set design / AA's is another thing, but I don't personally think Frozen is a short attraction, the ride time is decent for an attraction of this scale.

But it perhaps can still feel brief, which may be a result of Disney shoehorning the ride into a layout/ride type that doesn't particularly work for the story.

But it's a more complete experience than Maelstrom was.
 
UNCgolf

UNCgolf

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Bocabear said:
a 60 minute wait is a 60 minute wait....and it is a big deal.... Unless you have unlimited vacation time and love to stand in lines...Most guests do not.
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No it's not, when you're talking about capacity and park operations as I was.

Again, though, it's because it's Frozen. It's not because Frozen Ever After is a well designed attraction. If it was the exact same ride with generic figures that weren't related to Frozen it would be a walk-on.
 
Sir_Cliff

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J4546 said:
i could see them updating epcots and alot more around the parks with these new animatronics they are making.
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They certainly should do that. It's the sort of thing Disney would have done in the past and I'm sure Disneyland would still do, but at WDW such things are still far more up in the air. In an ideal world, they would be making new figures for Epcot at the same time they are making them for Paris and HK.

The most pleasant surprise in that regarding I can remember was bringing the Three Caballeros AAs over from Tokyo at the Mexico Pavilion. The difference in that case, though, is they did't have to pay to build them from scratch.
 
SplashMountainArchives

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Just popping in to let you all know that the renders posted were never meant to be shared, someone went behind my back and posted them. The situation has been dealt with and I'm aware of who was behind it. I ask that anyone who saved them, refrain from sharing. Just keep it to yourself. Some further details about the renders, no they are not adding more characters, other than the King/Queen of Maldonia and Eli La Bouff (aka Big Daddy) and maybe some very static critter figures, they were shoehorned last minute. Those are the only other characters that will be featured in the finale. The renders were being finalized not as a full artistic render like old school models, they are meant for constructive purposes only. They are from April 2023, before they even announced that background characters would be featured like Tiana's mother and the King/Queen. So yes, what you saw (at least what some of you saw) will be the final product just with full color and projections.
 
Dear Prudence

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SplashMountainArchives said:
Just popping in to let you all know that the renders posted were never meant to be shared, someone went behind my back and posted them. The situation has been dealt with and I'm aware of who was behind it. I ask that anyone who saved them, refrain from sharing. Just keep it to yourself. Some further details about the renders, no they are not adding more characters, other than the King/Queen of Maldonia and Eli La Bouff (aka Big Daddy) and maybe some very static critter figures, they were shoehorned last minute. Those are the only other characters that will be featured in the finale. The renders were being finalized not as a full artistic render like old school models, they are meant for constructive purposes only. They are from April 2023, before they even announced that background characters would be featured like Tiana's mother and the King/Queen. So yes, what you saw (at least what some of you saw) will be the final product just with full color and projections.
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You shared something on the internet that should not have been shared. Nothing on the internet is secure, and everything can be screen shot and saved. If it's not meant to be seen yet, don't share it. It's that simple. Yes, those people should have not distributed it second-hand, but they should not have been distributed in the first place.

No, I wasn't the person who shared them, obviously, but
 
Homemade Imagineering

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Now that the renders have been confirmed to exist, and if we’re going to take into account there’ll only be a handful of figures in the finale, alongside the concept art we’ve received thus far, I’ve counted around 26-29 figures total out of the supposed 48 or possibly more that are to be featured in total. A couple of those may be static figures, such as the turtles and frogs featured in the art
 
LittleBuford

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Homemade Imagineering said:
Now that the renders have been confirmed to exist, and if we’re going to take into account there’ll only be a handful of figures in the finale, alongside the concept art we’ve received thus far, I’ve counted around 26-29 figures total out of the supposed 48 or possibly more that are to be featured in total. A couple of those may be static figures, such as the turtles and frogs featured in the art
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By my calculation, there will be (at least) eight human animatronics in the final scene, plus Louis, plus some lower-tech animal figures. That’s a decent number.
 

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