mickEblu
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How did that not happen?
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MK Tiana's Bayou Adventure - latest details and construction progress
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How did that not happen?
SuddenStorm
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I'm 99% sure he was the creative lead for Disneyland in the '90s and early '00s? I could be wrong.
His popularity within Disney's leadership plummeted in the late '90s and '00s and as far as I know never recovered.
I think Kim Irvine has done a better job internally of remaining popular- but she also comes across as more of a 'yes' person who is willing to toe the company line.
Ghost93
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Tiana's Bayou Adventure has many problems (mainly a terrible story). But Tiana's appearance, weight and "attractiveness" is not one of them. The adventure outfit feels like a big departure from the movie, but she looks a lot like Tiana in the final "special spice" scene.
SuddenStorm
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If everything else was flawless, I'd be all for critiquing the Tiana animatronics and the terrible CGI depiction of Tiana in the Laughin' Place.
But on the hierarchy of issues with the ride, the order is something like-
1. Splash was way way way better, so WDI really dropped the ball
2. The scene staging is elementary
3. The story is elementary.
4. The sound design is elementary.
5. The attraction is horribly unreliable- but even if it ran perfectly, we'd still have issues 1-4.
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9. WDI did a poor job translating Tiana's likeness to a 3D animatronic.
mickEblu
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Thank you. It’s annoying being able to read right through people that avoid critiquing (or go much softer than they would if they were being completely honest) TBA as they are afraid of being associated with those “crazy” Splash Mountain fans so they become hyper focused on the technical issues as if those are the only problems.
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Vegas Disney Fan
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Wonder if it was fallout from him being the lead designer of DL Paris (EuroDisney) and its early struggles?
Which coincidentally is still the most beautiful Disney park in my opinion.
TrainsOfDisney
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More like Rocket Rods… (I love Tony but… )
Bocabear
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Disneyland Paris' early struggles were never related to the design of the park....and I agree it is the most beautiful park. From what I have been told the real problems were related to overbuilding resorts that were not necessary at the time it was built. I think now it is more widely accepted , but on it's opening, the crowds were not there yet.
bpiper
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From Touringplan's Sept 4 Disney Data Dump blog article. This for the period Aug 27 thru Sept 2.
Attraction Downtime Worst Offenders
For the third week in a row (and with no prospect for getting knocked off its pedestal any time soon), the worst offender of the past week was Tiana’s Bayou Adventure, which was unexpectedly down for an astounding 41% of the week – its worst week since we starting tracking it. The worst day for Tiana’s was clearly on August 27th, when the ride was down for 82% of the day. But it was also down for more than half of the day on August 28th. On average, Tiana’s didn’t open until 11:15 am this week. But on two different days it was down until significantly into the afternoon.
MaximumEd
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Just got back from a trip and got to ride this several times. I noticed in the mill scene where the first Tiana is located that there seemed to be some loud machinery noise in there like a bad bearing in a pump, or something like that. Don’t remember this in Splash. Anyone have any info?
gerarar
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TBA just passed 100 days of Virtual Queue use!
What was originally supposed to be short-lived after opening, now has no ending in sight!
And because of that, probably triggered Tron to finally ditch its VQ...a blessing in disguise?!
What was originally supposed to be short-lived after opening, now has no ending in sight!
And because of that, probably triggered Tron to finally ditch its VQ...a blessing in disguise?!
Final DayStats (9/29):
7am: 160.6 secs, or ~3 mins
1pm: 3.0 secs*
*the morning 7am drop lasted longer than afternoon 1pm drop
BG 95 (-80) is the last BG called for the day at 5pm (MNSSHP tonight).
Notable stoppages:
9:00 - 9:14am
9:25 - 11:06am
Average pace: 5mins/BG
VQ Drop Mean/Average:
7am: 6m -> 6m (+0)
1pm: 1hr 4m -> 59m (-5m)
That does it for Day 100 of Tiana's Bayou Adventure!
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Brer Panther
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For those wondering, the Disneyland version of Tiana's Bayou Adventure is no different from the Magic Kingdom's. All the America Sings animatronics have been removed. Same ugly CGI animation. Spots that once had animatronics now empty. Tiana still looks off-model.
And that Louis statue made of vegetables is creepy.
And that Louis statue made of vegetables is creepy.
Disstevefan1
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This could be fake news, but I heard that the Tiana was designed to fit Disneyland's attraction that has a shorter track, therefore, the Disneyland version has less dark areas than WDW's version?
peter11435
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Disneylands track (flume) is longer
Ghost93
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I just watched a ride through of the Disneyland version. I think it's much better paced to than the Magic Kingdom version, and there is a lot less dead space due to it being the smaller attraction. I also think because the log flume moves so fast, the "there's no story, it's just positive vibes" aspect works a lot better.
I always preferred the Magic Kingdom version of Splash Mountain to the Disneyland version because I thought Magic Kingdom did a better job telling the Brer Rabbit story, whereas the Disneyland version was too rushed to fully enjoy it. But since the story of Tiana's Bayou Adventure is its weakest aspect, this actually turns into a blessing in disguise.
I always preferred the Magic Kingdom version of Splash Mountain to the Disneyland version because I thought Magic Kingdom did a better job telling the Brer Rabbit story, whereas the Disneyland version was too rushed to fully enjoy it. But since the story of Tiana's Bayou Adventure is its weakest aspect, this actually turns into a blessing in disguise.
Ghost93
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It moves much faster and is a shorter ride, however.
Brer Panther
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After watching a video of Disneyland's version, it's clear that this retheme was indeed designed with that version specifically in mind.
peter11435
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Correct
ToTBellHop
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Absolutely. Wish they would have given us more critters for the dead space.
networkpro
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IMHO it's ok. Not as good as what it replaced, but it has its brighter moments such as the queue, fake radio station queue background music and the garden at the top of the lift which had been a very empty space before consisting of only the dead tree with a small house hanging from it. Way too many interior dark spaces and IMHO not having Mama Odie more prominent is a complete waste as she's the "moral guide" that Tiana ignored to her detriment.
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