MK Tiana's Bayou Adventure - latest details and construction progress

[FettFan]

“Our parks are treasured, and our fans care deeply about how they evolve and change — just as we do,” Josh D’Amaro, Disney’s theme park chairman, said in an interview. “One thing fans always tell me is ‘If you change it, promise to make it even better.’ And I think we’ve delivered on that promise with Tiana.”

yeah okay, he is totally clueless.

He’s a corporate kissbutt.

 

[FettFan]

I mean what do we expect him to say? He's chairman of the parks and he's in advertising mode, he's not going to say "yeah this was a swing and miss guys but we'll hit a homrun next time."

Maybe he should default to Edison’s “thousand failures” quote.

 

[_caleb]

The ride looks better in person? Then who's idea was it to release a poor quality POV video before previews even started?

I agree that is was dumb to release the fixed-POV video. Many folks (here especially) based their negative opinions on that, which had bad audio and missed and/or edited out key elements. It certainly did not make the best first impression and fed confirmation bias.

The complaints that most people have levied about the ride however are not things that would be improved by riding in person. You're not fixing the lack of AA's, basic moving props, empty stretches of nothing, the stupid dialog and story, worse songs etc by riding it in person.

Except many posts here have criticized TBA based on incomplete information they got from the fixed-POV video:

• “The AAs staring and standing still between logs”: This effect was amplified because we could only see straight ahead
• “Long stretches of nothing”: yeah, if you don’t look to your left or right. Many people completely missed Louis in the okra, the frog players in the shrunken segment, or the Lari figures?
• “The audio is just the soundtrack”: it’s not, but it sounded like it on the GoPro they used
• “The plot is incoherent”: The video didn’t include anything from the queue, which is a key part of the story

There’s plenty reason to be disappointed in TBA and valid reasons to dislike it. But many (most?), of the knee-jerk initial reactions were based on analysis of the incomplete info from the POV. And that response formed the narrative that persists in this thread.

 

[V_L_Raptor]

The ride looks better in person? Then who's idea was it to release a poor quality POV video before previews even started?

And the comparison to Mission: Breakout doesn't hold because a) Disney didn't change ToT on both coasts and b) no one ever insisted or implied the retheme had to happen because The Twilight Zone was problematic

Could you imagine if Cynthia Harris had praised Rocket Rods as being morally superior to the PeopleMover? Or if Eisner had implied that anyone who didn't like opening day DCA, Imagination 2.0 or WDSP was just a disgruntled fan?

It's obviously they lost the initial online narrative and are now working backwards to correct their own mistakes.

Or he's about to float Orlando's Tower of Terror coming up on changes shortly.

 

[MerlinTheGoat]

Except many posts here have criticized TBA based on incomplete information they got from the fixed-POV video:

• “The AAs staring and standing still between logs”: This effect was amplified because we could only see straight ahead
• “Long stretches of nothing”: yeah, if you don’t look to your left or right. Many people completely missed Louis in the okra, the frog players in the shrunken segment, or the Lari figures?
• “The audio is just the soundtrack”: it’s not, but it sounded like it on the GoPro they used
• “The plot is incoherent”: The video didn’t include anything from the queue, which is a key part of the story

There’s plenty reason to be disappointed in TBA and valid reasons to dislike it. But many (most?), of the knee-jerk initial reactions were based on analysis of the incomplete info from the POV. And that response formed the narrative that persists in this thread.

I've watched multiple videos from other people with cameras better at low light capture and that turn the video to the sides to better capture the angles. My impressions have not changed whatsoever, and I even gave that early video some leeway for those reasons. If anything, the complaints about so much empty space were made worse because it turns out that Disney made a couple of edits to cut some of those long empty stretches out.

The ride still has a ton of empty corridors where no figures are present (where there were figures prior, or at least more detailed stylized cartoon scenery). With the few critters it does have being very simple and with a disappointing range of motion. The criticisms of the audio being the movie soundtrack were more specifically about the exterior of the ride, and about how certain songs are located in strange areas. It's how they are used that are awkward. Or that Ray's voice is used in Gonna Take You Down, despite being dead (Facilier being dead for the record was the primary point that was used by the ride's supporters to try and justify why HE wasn't included). The "plot" they included in the queue, as I expected and have been saying for years, has pretty much nothing to do with the actual ride beyond the first drop. It's a bunch of restaurant and kitchen appliances, whereas the actual ride is about recruiting musical critters to play at a party. The "missing ingredient" is sort of forgotten about until the last scene with the new song.

 

[easyrowrdw]

What is the difference between this thread and the spoiler thread?

 

[rubysparky77]

After watching a few videos, I agree that TBA is inferior to Splash Mountain, but it has grown on me. Hopefully Splash stays open in Tokyo so I can enjoy it again someday.

I'm hoping to ride TBA this weekend if possible. Does anyone know what the plan is for Saturday, June 15? Passholder previews aren't being offered that day - what are the chances Disney decides to do a soft open for the general public?

 

[Kate Alan]

Does anyone know if it's likely they would keep Tiana running in Jan/Feb, or if they'll shut it down for maintenance the way they used to Splash? Wondering since it's so new if they would just keep it up due to demand even though FL temperatures flucuate a little more during that timeframe.

 

[MerlinTheGoat]

Does anyone know if it's likely they would keep Tiana running in Jan/Feb, or if they'll shut it down for maintenance the way they used to Splash? Wondering since it's so new if they would just keep it up due to demand even though FL temperatures flucuate a little more during that timeframe.

Probably depends on whether the ride has major issues that need addressing with a prolonged closure. It has broken down a lot so far, we'll see if they can get it working consistently. I think they'll probably want to keep the ride operating throughout its first year or so though. So I can see it foregoing its first winter closure. Especially with the rumor that Big Thunder is going down later this year for possibly 18 or so months for a full retrack.

 

[RenDeVieux]

Does anyone know if it's likely they would keep Tiana running in Jan/Feb, or if they'll shut it down for maintenance the way they used to Splash? Wondering since it's so new if they would just keep it up due to demand even though FL temperatures flucuate a little more during that timeframe.

That would be..something.. since that’s actually when Mardi Gras is..

 

[_caleb]

I've watched multiple videos from other people with cameras better at low light capture and that turn the video to the sides to better capture the angles. My impressions have not changed whatsoever, and I even gave that early video some leeway for those reasons.

The ride still has a ton of empty corridors where no figures are present (where there were figures prior, or at least more detailed stylized cartoon scenery). With the few critters it does have being very simple and with a disappointing range of motion. The criticisms of the audio being the movie soundtrack were more specifically about the exterior of the ride, and about how certain songs are located in strange areas. It's how they are used that are awkward. Or that Ray's voice is used in Gonna Take You Down, despite being dead (Facilier being dead for the record was the primary point that was used by the ride's supporters to try and justify why HE wasn't included). The "plot" they included in the queue, as I expected and have been saying for years, has pretty much nothing to do with the actual ride beyond the first drop. It's a bunch of restaurant and kitchen appliances, whereas the actual ride is about recruiting musical critters to play at a party. The "missing ingredient" is sort of forgotten about until the last scene with the new song.

Like I said, confirmation bias.

 

[easyrowrdw]

They certainly are whether genuine or not. They are given a list of approved words and nomenclature when reviewing products. They like to stay on the list and influencers have influencer marketing specialists on Disney's team.
It's their job.

I've seen this policy for travel agencies. I'm assuming it's something similar for popular influencers? They make money off Disney and are advertising Disney’s products so it doesn’t seem unreasonable to me that Disney would have rules for them. If I was an influencer I imagine it might be tempting to hold back any negative opinions I had toward the parks though.

 

[Disstevefan1]

Does anyone know if it's likely they would keep Tiana running in Jan/Feb, or if they'll shut it down for maintenance the way they used to Splash? Wondering since it's so new if they would just keep it up due to demand even though FL temperatures flucuate a little more during that timeframe.

I sure hope so! ITS BRAND NEW! it shouldn't require maintenance! Maintenance was THE REAL REASON this attraction was re themed and while they were at it they could erase the previous attraction for reasons.

As for the winter, since they removed the water cannons that created the splash at the bottom of the drop that was in the previous attraction, it seems to me they should be able to run this at least for the first Jan/Feb in my opinion.

 

[MerlinTheGoat]

Like I said, confirmation bias.

I was extremely reasonable and relatively optimistic (if cautiously so) about this retheme prior to it opening. Anyone who has read my posts in this thread will know this. It utterly failed to live up to any of the moderate expectations I had in place.

 

[monothingie]

Like I said, confirmation bias.

So then using that same argument, would it be fair to say that all the people who have previewed TBA and given it glowing feedback should not be counted on because Disney gave them special access and they may (likely) have to give positive feedback?

 

[retr0gate]

Like I said, confirmation bias.

I agree that an insane amount of negativity has haunted this thread since it's conception (look at any of my old posts and you'll see me basically pleading for people to give the ride a chance) but I think it's unfair to dismiss anyone who has legitimate criticism of the ride by claiming "confirmation bias." I for one haven't ridden it in person yet so I'm reserving my judgement until I do (hopefully tomorrow). I've skimmed the POV out of curiosity and as somebody who's been looking forward to this ride for a while, I am cautiously optimistic. Back when we knew next to nothing about this attraction, a lot of the hate was unwarranted because there was not much to base it off of. Now that we have access to the "full" experience, the same cannot be said. If somebody is sharing their opinion and giving us detailed, reasonable explanations on why they feel the way they do, that's not confirmation bias, it's just their personal preference based on what's physically there.

 

[Tha Realest]

What is the difference between this thread and the spoiler thread?

That thread gives us a summary of the finished product.

This thread lets everyone brag about how the finished product confirms their priors.

 

[_caleb]

So then using that same argument, would it be fair to say that all the people who have previewed TBA and given it glowing feedback should not be counted on because Disney gave them special access and they may (likely) have to give positive feedback?

Yeah, maybe. The difference being that their biased opinions were confirmed by actual in-person experience (vs. a bad POV video).

 

[monothingie]

Yeah, maybe. The difference being that their biased opinions were confirmed by actual in-person experience (vs. a bad POV video).

Or they were required to provide a positive review.

 

[LittleBuford]

• “The plot is incoherent”: The video didn’t include anything from the queue, which is a key part of the story

Why do you say this? The queue backstory is entirely divorced from and irrelevant to the story of the ride.