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It's also a little different than say Frozen (where Elsa is dressed like a princess for basically the entire film). Tiana for a huge portion of the film is not dressed that way.
Yikes, I missed this earlier! “Some song”?! It’s only one of the best of that decade!I googled it, it's some song from the 90s, idk it either.
It's also a little different than say Frozen (where Elsa is dressed like a princess for basically the entire film). Tiana for a huge portion of the film is not dressed that way.
It all harkens back to when ingenue characters were not given much character beyond being nice and fawning over another beautiful person with a typically higher status. Luckily, writing has improved across the board and Tiana has a lot more character than being "just a princess."Thank you for explaining. Most of the Disney princesses don’t dress or act in a normatively princess-like manner for much of their respective films, so I don’t think their appeal (whether to little girls or others) lies fundamentally in that aspect of their characters, though I acknowledge that Disney merchandise tends to focus on it.
Does “ingenue characters” refer to the early princesses?It all harkens back to when ingenue characters were not given much character beyond being nice and fawning over another beautiful person with a typically higher status.
Early princesses and princes. Even outside of Disney where the young lovers were often painted in broad strokes and the side characters or setting help differentiate the stories. Writers have been pushed by society to find better female voices, but also to make characters of any gender to be developed beyond a romantic trophy to be chased.Does “ingenue characters” refer to the early princesses?
I think the early princesses get a bad rap. Cinderella in particular is a spirited young woman with real dimension to her character.Early princesses and princes. Even outside of Disney where the young lovers were often painted in broad strokes and the side characters or setting help differentiate the stories. Writers have been pushed by society to find better female voices, but also to make characters of any gender to be developed beyond a romantic trophy to be chased.
Idk, I don't really like 90s music and don't really listen to it. I listen to a lot of 80s music.Yikes, I missed this earlier! “Some song”?! It’s only one of the best of that decade!
You’ve redeemed yourself with that last sentence, so all is forgiven.Idk, I don't really like 90s music and don't really listen to it. I listen to a lot of 80s music.
I disagree, but that is totally fine. I do really enjoy the 2014 Broadway version of Rogers and Hammerstein's Cinderella.I think the early princesses get a bad rap. Cinderella in particular is a spirited young woman with real dimension to her character.
I now know how all the Gen X-ers felt when we started rolling into these forums (or equivalents) as teenagers. Our time has come and past.
Like you I'm coming up on 25 years of forums, ugh.
I know I started with RatChat back in the early 2000's. Until I made Dusty mad.Wow they were around back then?
I remember circa 1998/1999 being a Junior in high school and just wanting to find a video of Splash Mountain on the internet. All I could find was a tiny little grainy 10 second snippet on the Disneyland website. I think they had a little video snippet of every ride that you could click on. Crazy to think that 25 years ago if you wanted to see a video of an attraction that meant you had to have brought a camcorder on the ride and filmed it yourself. Or watch the Disneyland version of Disney Sing alongs.
We've all been there!I know I started with RatChat back in the early 2000's. Until I made Dusty mad.
That’s because the old WED guys came from animation and then passed down their knowledge to the next generation and so forth. I think what we’re seeing now is current imagineers overly concerned with or relying on tech as well as the fact that at some point the knowledge just wasn’t passed down. Or perhaps the knowledge was not respected or absorbed.
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