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[monothingie]

I know there are many in fan communities such as this one who dislike the very idea of TBA, but “bad word of mouth” to me suggests public opinion, and I really don’t get the sense that the public at large is ideologically invested one way or the other in the retheme. If the ride is well done, I see no reason why it wouldn’t get good word of mouth.

Forget the fans and social media influencers reacts. Bad word of mouth is the average guest riding it and saying the other one was better or it was meh.

 

[monothingie]

Plus Disney needs that sweet sweet G+ revenue.

 

[James Alucobond]

Forget the fans and social media influencers reacts. Bad word of mouth is the average guest riding it and saying the other one was better or it was meh.

It was a fun, long flume full of animatronics then and will be a fun, long flume full (hopefully) of animatronics in the near future. If you think the average person cared deeply about the narrative, you’re just wrong. The only things I could see having any sort of impact on popularity would be poorer music or an overly patronizing tone in the dialogue that grates.

 

[LittleBuford]

Forget the fans and social media influencers reacts. Bad word of mouth is the average guest riding it and saying the other one was better or it was meh.

That’s my point—the average guest will judge the ride on its merits. If it’s well done, people will say positive things about it, and if it isn’t, it’ll receive criticism. Your earlier post claimed it would get bad word of mouth “whether it deserves it or not”.

 

[JoeCamel]

Smaller question: When do we think the first POVs will hit the internet?

15 seconds after the first rides

 

[Brer Oswald]

That’s my point—the average guest will judge the ride on its merits. If it’s well done, people will say positive things about it, and if it isn’t, it’ll receive criticism. Your earlier post claimed it would get bad word of mouth “whether it deserves it or not”.

The average guest includes people that have been to the parks before. Once, twice, maybe more times, but they don’t spend their free time talking about it online in message boards.

The chances that they’ve formed a nostalgic connection with the prior attraction are high; about as high as any of the other castle park headliners. Some don’t even know that it’s been replaced and are surprised to find out.

I think it really comes down to whether or not they top Zipadeedoodah and that finale. Everyone knew that song. Most everyone loved it. Everyone loved that finale. You saw it from the train and you just wanted to be in there.

 

[LittleBuford]

The average guest includes people that have been to the parks before. Once, twice, maybe more times, but they don’t spend their free time talking about it online in message boards.

The chances that they’ve formed a nostalgic connection with the prior attraction are high; about as high as any of the other castle park headliners. Some don’t even know that it’s been replaced and are surprised to find out.

I think it really comes down to whether or not they top Zipadeedoodah and that finale. Everyone knew that song. Most everyone loved it. Everyone loved that finale. You saw it from the train and you just wanted to be in there.

And if they like the new ride, they’ll develop similarly fond feelings towards it. My point is that we don’t know yet how people will react.

 

[Incomudro]

It was a fun, long flume full of animatronics then and will be a fun, long flume full (hopefully) of animatronics in the near future. If you think the average person cared deeply about the narrative, you’re just wrong. The only things I could see having any sort of impact on popularity would be poorer music or an overly patronizing tone in the dialogue that grates.

It's how it all comes together and makes you feel.
The way Splash played through and built, the great songs - Zip-a-Dee Doo Dah quite literally was the signature song of Disney.
We'll see how Tiana's works out.
Fortunately there is a big emphasis on the critters, and some excellent AA's.

 

[Disgruntled Walt]

The average guest includes people that have been to the parks before. Once, twice, maybe more times, but they don’t spend their free time talking about it online in message boards.

The chances that they’ve formed a nostalgic connection with the prior attraction are high; about as high as any of the other castle park headliners. Some don’t even know that it’s been replaced and are surprised to find out.

I think it really comes down to whether or not they top Zipadeedoodah and that finale. Everyone knew that song. Most everyone loved it. Everyone loved that finale. You saw it from the train and you just wanted to be in there.

Additionally (from what we have seen and what has been officially revealed), it seems like it will be hard to be invested in what's going on.

They need a band for the party. Really? That's the problem? It's New Orleans, for Pete's sake! That's not a crisis. But even more absurd is the response to it...let's go into the bayou and look for animals that can play instruments and use them instead. It sounds like a story a 3rd grader would come up with for a contest...and it wouldn't win.

I know this sounds like I'm being a Negative-Knocknasheega here, but actually think about the story objectively. It's ridiculous. Would you be okay with a PatF sequel with this story?

I'm not saying the previous attraction was a literary masterpiece. But at least it was a story that had staying power. It's a story that originated in the 19th Century and was passed down through generations. This one is both simplistic and weirdly complicated at the same time. And I don't know how you even manage to do that.

 

[Trauma]

And if they like the new ride, they’ll develop similarly fond feelings towards it. My point is that we don’t know yet how people will react.

Well it’s easy to know how people will react.

If it’s as good or better than Splash people will be very happy.

If it’s clearly worse than Splash, pitchforks.

 

[Incomudro]

Additionally (from what we have seen and what has been officially revealed), it seems like it will be hard to be invested in what's going on.

They need a band for the party. Really? That's the problem? It's New Orleans, for Pete's sake! That's not a crisis. But even more absurd is the response to it...let's go into the bayou and look for animals that can play instruments and use them instead. It sounds like a story a 3rd grader would come up with for a contest...and it wouldn't win.

I know this sounds like I'm being a Negative-Knocknasheega here, but actually think about the story objectively. It's ridiculous. Would you be okay with a PatF sequel with this story?

I'm not saying the previous attraction was a literary masterpiece. But at least it was a story that had staying power. It's a story that originated in the 19th Century and was passed down through generations. This one is both simplistic and weirdly complicated at the same time. And I don't know how you even manage to do that.

If only they had followed the movie.

 

[LittleBuford]

Well it’s easy to know how people will react.

If it’s as good or better than Splash people will be very happy.

If it’s clearly worse than Splash, pitchforks.

Isn’t that pretty much what I said, minus the hyperbole?

I’m making a rather simple and uncontroversial point: how good (or bad) the ride is will determine how the general public reacts to it.

 

[Sir_Cliff]

Well it’s easy to know how people will react.

If it’s as good or better than Splash people will be very happy.

If it’s clearly worse than Splash, pitchforks.

This discussion, though, was started by the assertion the ride would get bad word of mouth whether it deserved it or not.

Sure, if the ride isn't very good and clearly inferior to Splash then it will probably get bad or, more likely, mediocre word of mouth. While Splash was personally my favourite ride, I think some might be projecting when they assume that a quantity of visitors at all large enough to be considered "the average guest" will be going on TBA weighed down by a great nostalgia for Splash that will be hard to overcome.

 

[Trauma]

Isn’t that pretty much what I said, minus the hyperbole?

I’m making a rather simple and uncontroversial point: how good (or bad) the ride is will determine how the general public reacts to it.

I know I’m just starting the obvious, but there are two large pools of the general public.

Those who have ridden Splash and those who haven’t.

It will be interesting to see how the reactions differ.

For instance the group who has previously experienced Splash may have a more negative viewpoint than the group who hasn’t.

Great news for Disney if both groups love it.

Bad news if both don’t.

We will know soon enough.

 

[LittleBuford]

This discussion, though, was started by the assertion the ride would get bad word of mouth whether it deserved it or not.

Sure, if the ride isn't very good and clearly inferior to Splash then it will probably get bad or, more likely, mediocre word of mouth. While Splash was personally my favourite ride, I think some might be projecting when they assume that a quantity of visitors at all large enough to be considered "the average guest" will be going on TBA weighed down by a great nostalgia for Splash that will be hard to overcome.

The forum consensus on Soarin’ is revealing in this regard. Most here seem to hate World and are convinced that everyone prefers California, but guest scores for the two versions are essentially the same according to @lentesta. Feelings here generally run much higher than they do among the civilian population!

 

[Trauma]

This discussion, though, was started by the assertion the ride would get bad word of mouth whether it deserved it or not.

Sure, if the ride isn't very good and clearly inferior to Splash then it will probably get bad or, more likely, mediocre word of mouth. While Splash was personally my favourite ride, I think some might be projecting when they assume that a quantity of visitors at all large enough to be considered "the average guest" will be going on TBA weighed down by a great nostalgia for Splash that will be hard to overcome.

That’s an interesting take.

I assume it will get good word of mouth no matter what.

We have the press and bloggers who will never say a bad word.

I mean this thing is gonna have to be really bad to get bad word of mouth don’t you think ?

 

[SplashJacket]

The forum consensus on Soarin’ is revealing in this regard. Most here seem to hate World and are convinced that everyone prefers California, but guest scores for the two versions are essentially the same according to @lentesta. Feelings here generally run much higher than they do among the civilian population!

I don’t hate World, it’s just okay.

California was a better film but is dated. If the scores are the same, that’s not exactly a ringing endorsement (it implies World would be considerably worse if it were dated and California was modern).

 

[Disgruntled Walt]

That’s an interesting take.

I assume it will get good word of mouth no matter what.

We have the press and bloggers who will never say a bad word.

I mean this thing is gonna have to be really bad to get bad word of mouth don’t you think ?

There will be no negative press for this ride. And when it opens, the same people who have been love-reacting everything about it will still be love-reacting to it once it opens. Let's be honest...for as much as people say the anti-TBA crowd here has already made up their minds, for the most part the same can be said about the pro-TBA folks.

 

[LittleBuford]

That’s an interesting take.

I assume it will get good word of mouth no matter what.

We have the press and bloggers who will never say a bad word.

I mean this thing is gonna have to be really bad to get bad word of mouth don’t you think ?

I don’t think Disney’s PR machine is powerful enough to override general negativity. Harmonious and Jollywood Nights spring to mind as two recent offerings that were widely criticised.

 

[monothingie]

The average guest includes people that have been to the parks before. Once, twice, maybe more times, but they don’t spend their free time talking about it online in message boards.

The chances that they’ve formed a nostalgic connection with the prior attraction are high; about as high as any of the other castle park headliners. Some don’t even know that it’s been replaced and are surprised to find out.

I think it really comes down to whether or not they top Zipadeedoodah and that finale. Everyone knew that song. Most everyone loved it. Everyone loved that finale. You saw it from the train and you just wanted to be in there.

Bad word of mouth also factors into whether a family will shell out $30 per person for an Individual Lightning Lane.