donaldtoo
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That has always bugged me, as well…to me anyway, “Tiana’s Foods” sounds like a generic grocery store, and the look of the sign doesn’t help.
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That has always bugged me, as well…to me anyway, “Tiana’s Foods” sounds like a generic grocery store, and the look of the sign doesn’t help.
mickEblu
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Feels very amateur to me. What Imagineering intern do they have working on the barn? And why do you even need a sign that says “main entrance.” None of what they have done to the barn does anything for the place making on any level.
aladdin2007
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They are just pushing too much into this with their precious backstory. Its all becoming too cluttered and too much going on. The critter coop sign is perfection, and that should have been the style and theme throughout the entire queue. But now we have this entire human aspect taking over inside and out, I think that is what is turning me off of the project all toegther. It was great with just critters etc,,,now its going to be human filled and human social focused instead of fantasy. Its just obvious it appears more than one team is on this, each one has its area, and its not gelling together, to me anyway.
Brer Oswald
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Why do these get a pass? Much of these are far more dated and have physically aged worse than Splash. Matterhorn is literally falling apart. It had to go through a multimonth refurbishment in 2023 less than a year after it's previous multimonth refurbishment in 2022.
The reality is, all of these rides are going to have to be replaced, if not torn down and rebuilt, eventually. Mechanical systems wear, buildings deteriorate, and safety regulations change. Splash was going to eventually need a replacement, but it probably had another good 30 years or so in the same facility. Tiana will probably only last as long because of how much it is reusing.
You could always play a Disney game on your smart phone in the queue rather than read the faux newspaper articles on the walls if this is too much information for you to handle.
Bill Cipher
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Maybe time for a bit of a hot take, but I actually like the Tiana's Foods logo design when viewed through the lens of roaring 20's New Orleans. The logo is very reminiscent of company logos of the era with flat colors and bold lettering while still featuring recognizable iconography, all wrapped up in a circular package. It makes sense this signage would not be artificially aged with rust and debris because in the narrative this company and facility opened less than a year prior.
My main issue is that the rest of the architecture surrounding the signage does not reflect that same roaring 20's New Orleans and as such there is disparity between the signage and the architecture. I feel this is the same issue with the mural; it would look authentic along a New Orleans city street, but not on a wooden barn. If rumor is to be believed and the rest of Frontierland south of TBA is to become an iteration of NOS then maybe that disparity will be felt less, but time will tell. The main entrance sign does indeed feel a bit too on the nose purely for a the wording though.
But it baffles the mind that there are people in this thread who genuinely believe the Tiana's Foods logo was developed by some lone intern in 2 minutes on Canva and it was simultaneously approved all the way up to physical production. Do you legitimately think no research went into the logo's design? I implore you that anytime you see a decision made in the parks that doesn't immediately make sense to you to take 5 minutes and do a little research on why a team of people might have reached such a conclusion. Doesn't mean you have to like their decision or support it, but it does wonders to your understanding of the creative industry and pipeline to ask questions and find answers before presenting criticisms.
My main issue is that the rest of the architecture surrounding the signage does not reflect that same roaring 20's New Orleans and as such there is disparity between the signage and the architecture. I feel this is the same issue with the mural; it would look authentic along a New Orleans city street, but not on a wooden barn. If rumor is to be believed and the rest of Frontierland south of TBA is to become an iteration of NOS then maybe that disparity will be felt less, but time will tell. The main entrance sign does indeed feel a bit too on the nose purely for a the wording though.
But it baffles the mind that there are people in this thread who genuinely believe the Tiana's Foods logo was developed by some lone intern in 2 minutes on Canva and it was simultaneously approved all the way up to physical production. Do you legitimately think no research went into the logo's design? I implore you that anytime you see a decision made in the parks that doesn't immediately make sense to you to take 5 minutes and do a little research on why a team of people might have reached such a conclusion. Doesn't mean you have to like their decision or support it, but it does wonders to your understanding of the creative industry and pipeline to ask questions and find answers before presenting criticisms.
James Alucobond
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At the very least, some thought went into it as part of a larger identity system for her various subproducts, but I think your examples actually highlight what’s wrong with it. It has a few art nouveau elements, but the shape and organization are similar to the more industrial and occasionally art deco logos you posted. Further, the illustration style, particularly with the translucent petals, feels modern, and they’re glued to this hideous Mardi Gras color scheme come hell or high water.But it baffles the mind that there are people in this thread who genuinely believe the Tiana's Foods logo was developed by some lone intern in 2 minutes on Canva and it was simultaneously approved all the way up to physical production. Do you legitimately think no research went into the logo's design? I implore you that anytime you see a decision made in the parks that doesn't immediately make sense to you to take 5 minutes and do a little research on why a team of people might have reached such a conclusion. Doesn't mean you have to like their decision or support it, but it does wonders to your understanding of the creative industry and pipeline to ask questions and find answers before presenting criticisms.
And as I said earlier, it could probably get away with it if the materials and installation execution felt less anachronistic, but it is what it is.
Brer Oswald
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Not to mention it has none of the charm of the designs the user posted. "Tiana Foods" looks like a modern design.
mickEblu
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Exactly. Forgot to mention this ^^
donaldtoo
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Agreed.
When, especially, things like Cattail, Dwarf Palmetto and Cypress would be more authentic…
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Bill Cipher
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I used a lot of words to share my opinion.
It's not unanimously unliked, I like it! If you don't that's fine, but it's hard to take someone seriously when their criticism of a work is "this is bad so it must have been made by some no-name intern."I used a lot of words to share my opinion.
The intern probably did their best name or not, but you don't want to know the name they will call the execs after things look this off.
headintheclouds
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Is there a poll somewhere I missed that said the signs are universally unliked or are we using this forum only? Because for every 20 people on here that says it horrible I can find 20 more on other SM sites that say they love it.
The thing is when it comes to this ride whether or not people hate the way it looks, its not going to have any affect on people spending money to ride it. Disney knows this, we know it.
I loved Splash but I’m excited for something new. Disney is not a museum. One day HM is going to probably be changed possibly TOT or RnRC. And yes, I’ll hate it, but they have to keep it fresh for other generations not just mine.
The thing is when it comes to this ride whether or not people hate the way it looks, its not going to have any affect on people spending money to ride it. Disney knows this, we know it.
I loved Splash but I’m excited for something new. Disney is not a museum. One day HM is going to probably be changed possibly TOT or RnRC. And yes, I’ll hate it, but they have to keep it fresh for other generations not just mine.
The problem is that it reads as "jungle" when it should read as "swamp" I think they'd be better off omitting the flora entirely and try something else.
donaldtoo
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Maybe, but if they’re gonna’ use foliage, they could at least make it look more authentic (like the vast majority of Guests are gonna’ notice anyway, right…?), as it’s all gonna’ be plastic regardless.
LittleBuford
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I’m perfectly willing to believe that a lot of research went into the logo, but I cannot convince myself that the end result looks well done or thematically appropriate. It really doesn’t, at least not to me and many others commenting here. I like everything else I’m seeing, which makes it even more unfortunate that they went so wrong in this particular regard.Maybe time for a bit of a hot take, but I actually like the Tiana's Foods logo design when viewed through the lens of roaring 20's New Orleans. The logo is very reminiscent of company logos of the era with flat colors and bold lettering while still featuring recognizable iconography, all wrapped up in a circular package. It makes sense this signage would not be artificially aged with rust and debris because in the narrative this company and facility opened less than a year prior.
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My main issue is that the rest of the architecture surrounding the signage does not reflect that same roaring 20's New Orleans and as such there is disparity between the signage and the architecture. I feel this is the same issue with the mural; it would look authentic along a New Orleans city street, but not on a wooden barn. If rumor is to be believed and the rest of Frontierland south of TBA is to become an iteration of NOS then maybe that disparity will be felt less, but time will tell. The main entrance sign does indeed feel a bit too on the nose purely for a the wording though.
But it baffles the mind that there are people in this thread who genuinely believe the Tiana's Foods logo was developed by some lone intern in 2 minutes on Canva and it was simultaneously approved all the way up to physical production. Do you legitimately think no research went into the logo's design? I implore you that anytime you see a decision made in the parks that doesn't immediately make sense to you to take 5 minutes and do a little research on why a team of people might have reached such a conclusion. Doesn't mean you have to like their decision or support it, but it does wonders to your understanding of the creative industry and pipeline to ask questions and find answers before presenting criticisms.
LittleBuford
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People keep referring to Art Nouveau as the aesthetic they should have been aiming for, but that style had already given way to Art Deco by the 1920s and wouldn’t have been an appropriate direction to go in.
James Alucobond
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They're saying what we got includes art nouveau elements, which it does, and which you could at least explain away in-universe as being somewhat tied to the style of her tiara. That said, it neither fully pulls off art nouveau nor art deco.