MagicHappens1971
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I can't see Tiana opening any later than Thanksgiving 2024. Unless a major hurricane delays construction this fall.
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Right, but you don't market the year to potential or visiting guests that year around the ride that does not open until month 11 of 12.
The marketing for Tiana will be more 2025.
MagicHappens1971
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Oh for sure. I just think Tiana will be part of the Holiday marketing push for 2024.
Possibly but I say slim. Water ride in a part of the year where it finally gets chilly in November and cold fronts in December(even when no cold fronts 60s and 50s in the lows. Holidays kind of sell themselves which is why major attractions are never pushed around this time as much as the following spring or summer before.
The real marketing push will come in 2025 when it is needed as the resort really has nothing lined up to combat the guests to be enticed to stay at WDW instead of onsite at Universal when Epic opens. Their days and nights will be fought for.
Then again, maybe things accellerated as Universal will have a new land area, Nighttime show and likely day parade all next year in 2024.
PREMiERdrum
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Moreso what's found when they got to work gutting. With WDI's heritage projects being so specialized in construction, there are unknowns behind every piece of rockwork. It's encouraging that the exterior has remained relatively intact thus far, but I'd love to see a few shots of the interior as current.
bmr1591
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Do you really think JoW is a marketable attraction?
Disstevefan1
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JoW is the absolute worst addition to EPCOT in the history of EPCOT.
There probably will be some marketing of JoW that coincides with Moana's live action remake.
I suspect Tiana will get a lot of marketing, because it's a great floom ride and so Disney can show the world they erased the racism to boost their ESG score.
Br0ckford
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Never underestimate Disney's ability to screw things up
Disstevefan1
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James Alucobond
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Perhaps when taken in conjunction with the loss of the building it replaced and the resultant impact to the organizational design of the park, but even that is more the fault of the original festival center plan.
TheMaxRebo
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Not JoW in it's own but for next year they can market the completion of new Epcot as a whole
Plus they will push return of the dining plan, removal of (most) prak reservations, the change to G+, etc - basically that a WDW trip is simpler than it has been
JD80
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I think there is an effort internally to get things done faster. Since Iger's return I think we've been seeing EPCOT pick up a bit, Journey of Water was supposed to be fall of 2023 and it looks like it'll be open in days/weeks.
TBA looks like it's moving at "breakneck" pace for Disney.
With the stock being smacked around and the street looking at parks as a place to invest I think Disney is looking to improve things for better quarterly reports. I think they are looking to build quickly and not play accounting games like they have over the last 5+ years.
The long building cycles to work with accounting cycles has caught up with them just like the extortion-like pricing of the parks/hotels.
TBA looks like it's moving at "breakneck" pace for Disney.
With the stock being smacked around and the street looking at parks as a place to invest I think Disney is looking to improve things for better quarterly reports. I think they are looking to build quickly and not play accounting games like they have over the last 5+ years.
The long building cycles to work with accounting cycles has caught up with them just like the extortion-like pricing of the parks/hotels.
Well I did start the post you quoted saying if things go bad is it all they would have.
As others stated, it will be something in the montage of new marketable things like they have always done.
EPCOT will have Rat, Guardians and Moana.
MK will feature much of Tron
AK Avatar
HS Star Wars
Did you see it had its own segment on Good Morning America?
Do you think anything else new will be ready by Spring of next year?
Did you see what is in the parenthetical?
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GhostHost1000
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Universal - we have a new theme park! (built as fast as Disney can build water fountains)
Disney - we have that Moana’s water fountain thingy area in a park it doesn’t make sense in and a rethemed ride of one that was already popular before! (+ park reservations, Genie+, and nothing new even announced down the road)
Disney - we have that Moana’s water fountain thingy area in a park it doesn’t make sense in and a rethemed ride of one that was already popular before! (+ park reservations, Genie+, and nothing new even announced down the road)
MagicHappens1971
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I think TBAs rapid pace is probably due to the fact that they took a headliner offline for an extensive retheme. MK desperately needs the capacity back.
I am optimistic about the future of the parks but the fact that they haven’t even broken ground on anything new or announced anything new yet is concerning. If they don’t announce anything new for WDW @ Destination D I’ll be even more concerned
If they do announce something of substance, the worst part will be the Decade wait for it to be built.
JD80
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100% if they don't knock it out of the park (pun intended) this fall then they are in trouble for the medium to long term.
MagicHappens1971
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I have been vocal that I don’t think Epic will be the end all be all for Disney but if they choose to act the same way they did when Potter was being built then the parks division has more of a problem than I ever imagined.
Disney can not “sit on its laurels” as Universal expands its resort. Especially at the dramatic rate that they are. With How To Train Your Dragon & Super Mario, Universal will also be increasing the draw for families with younger children.
Disney needs to break ground on expansions for the Magic Kingdom & Animal Kingdom. ASAP.
MagicHappens1971
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Another big difference at least from the outside looking in, I don’t know much about NBCUniversals operations but it doesn’t seem they treat their parks as an ATM for the rest of the company, as Disney does.
I don’t care if Indy is loosing money at the box office and D+ is loosing subscribers, if the parks are making money, they need to invest back into the parks. It’s common sense
I don’t care if Indy is loosing money at the box office and D+ is loosing subscribers, if the parks are making money, they need to invest back into the parks. It’s common sense