MerlinTheGoat
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The track layout isn't charging. But the big drop will be less psychologically intense due to the scenery alterations during the final lift and removal of the briar patch.
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News Tiana's Bayou Adventure - latest details and construction progress
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Disstevefan1
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Removing or making a less intense final drop to make the ride more inclusive.
Disney Analyst
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Certainly not trying to troll, or gotcha. Perhaps just being a bit sassy from all the hysteria of late.
If Disney does indeed screw this up, I'll be the first to say I feel they screwed it up.
But we have no confirmation on the finale, how effective it will be, how many AAs.
But I did always presume the boat would go, and Tiana's Place is a beautiful locale to replace it with.
(assuming the boat is actually going to be removed)
Basically they're now having Mama Odie cheerfully interact with riders before the drop, as opposed to it being more threatening with the vultures/Br'er Fox
BrerFoxesBayouAdventure
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The way this interior looks makes it look like we're in Mama Odie's tree, but the exterior doesn't show that at all.
We will be entering Mama Odie's house within the ride before climbing up the lift hill!
The finale is indeed Tiana's Palace.
aladdin2007
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what they do best now, sucking all the fun out of something, just like when they walled up the original maelstrom rock work, idiots Im sorry to say.
Disgruntled Walt
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I can confirm that a CGI ride-thru does exist. An acquaintance of mine has seen it.
BrerFoxesBayouAdventure
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Is it the same one mentioned by Splash Mountain Archive on Twitter?
zipadee999
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Did your acquaintance share any details?
SplashMountainArchives
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splash mountain archive here! i would assume so. there was one that was extremely bare that was ready by the time disneyland reopened
in 2021. im sure its been updated over time but im planning on "releasing" the renderings ive obtained.
MerlinTheGoat
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Splasharchive on twitter also said something is going to happen in the next couple of days that will verify their claims about the finale. So I guess we'll find out very soon whether the info is legit.
If the renders are from 2021, can you be certain they're still up to date and accurate to what is being built now? As far as i'm aware, they didn't have a fully finalized plan figured out until fairly close to D23 last year. And from what I was told from my own source (and some of this is fairly recent from the latter part of last year and earlier this year), the ride received multiple substantial budget increases and drastic evolutions to the quality and quantity of the scenery/figures over the last couple of years since it was first announced. Their initial impressions of the ride prior to D23 were not favorable at all either, but there was an abrupt shift in this opinion due to learning and seeing more about the finalized plans.
I was also told that the ride would have a lot of animatronics. Both a substantial amount of new ones (which seems to be backed up by the art and the source also claimed to have seen several of the new ones) as well as reusing the America Sings figures. The gist of what I was told is that the ride should satisfy people who value those classic style rides with lots of AA's.
The two pieces of artwork that Disney released at D23 and a couple of months after don't seem like what i'd describe as "bare". They seem to point towards a greater number of animatronics than even Splash Mountain has in those specific scenes.
Oh good, I didn't realize you had an account here.
If the renders are from 2021, can you be certain they're still up to date and accurate to what is being built now? As far as i'm aware, they didn't have a fully finalized plan figured out until fairly close to D23 last year. And from what I was told from my own source (and some of this is fairly recent from the latter part of last year and earlier this year), the ride received multiple substantial budget increases and drastic evolutions to the quality and quantity of the scenery/figures over the last couple of years since it was first announced. Their initial impressions of the ride prior to D23 were not favorable at all either, but there was an abrupt shift in this opinion due to learning and seeing more about the finalized plans.
I was also told that the ride would have a lot of animatronics. Both a substantial amount of new ones (which seems to be backed up by the art and the source also claimed to have seen several of the new ones) as well as reusing the America Sings figures. The gist of what I was told is that the ride should satisfy people who value those classic style rides with lots of AA's.
The two pieces of artwork that Disney released at D23 and a couple of months after don't seem like what i'd describe as "bare". They seem to point towards a greater number of animatronics than even Splash Mountain has in those specific scenes.
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SplashMountainArchives
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The renders that we obtained are up to date, I was referencing the very first CGI ride thru that was, let me reiterate, very very bare at the time. Also you are correct that Bayou did in fact receive some funding. Most of that funding has gone into the "dozen" AA figures that Disney flaunted in that one blog post. America Sings figures will be reused but only a certain amount, what I heard was about 7 or 8, they are quite old but money is being put into them to restore them. I can confirm that the storks will be staying as well as a few frogs, baby possums in How Do You Do and possibly, still haven't confirmed this fully, the upper portion of the giggling Brer Rabbit figure will be salvaged for that Rabbit you saw in an art release. As for the show boat, I did see someone on here mention that it would be a giant reminder of what was, and that's exactly what WDI doesn't want. They don't want to remind guests that Tiana's was once Splash so they axed it which is quite stupid as that was the one element everyone expected to remain and actually fit in with the new theme. Also this scene is very heavy on lighting and projections which is why the Palace facade's structure is similar to what you might see on Small World, very flat with painted details. WDI is striving for Bayou to be it's own thing which is why they aren't going heavy on the easter eggs. I'm still working on getting more renderings of other portions of the attractions but I'd keep an eye on my page
MerlinTheGoat
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The initial budget I heard back when it was first announced was $30-$40 million. Which would be an automatic death sentence (the pathetic Frozen overlay of Maelstrom cost a lot more than that). I wasn't given an exact final amount approved, just that it was "extremely healthy" (though not some absurd number like Cosmic Rewind's $500 mil). I was told the budget gradually and substantially increased multiple times during development to the point where it has strongly impressed the person I spoke with. Which is why I would make sure the details you have are current.
The budget alongside a lot of other new details this source learned after D23 last year made them do a complete 180 on their opinion of the retheme. Like went from saying it would be one of their worst rides ever and embarrass Splash, to literally "this is insanely impressive and should be a huge hit, a worthy replacement for Splash".
The comment I was told about the America Sings figures seemed to imply they would be reusing a lot of them. Didn't seem like just 7 or 8. That would be disappointing if that's the extent of them. I don't expect the Brer characters to appear of course.
Have you heard a ballpark number for how many AA's the ride will have in its entirety? I wasn't given a specific numbers myself, but the impression I got was that it would at least compare favorably to the quantity that Splash has, possibly get an increase. Which would be crazy given that Splash already has well over 50 figures (Disneyland has an additional dozen or so over WDW). Like I said, the two pieces of art that Disney released later last year looked quite well populated compared to the scenes they're replacing.
I hope you're wrong about the finale, because that sounds insanely disappointing. That room in Splash was an exceptionally themed space with a ton of physical depth and detail. And the sheer quantity of AA's made it feel very alive and dense. Trading all of that for 20 fewer AA's (I don't care how "impressive" the remaining 6 are) and a flat wall projection is nauseous to think about.
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Brer Panther
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Oh, but this isn't based on The Princess and the Frog. They just took a few characters from the movie and used them to craft this weird storyline about a food co-op owner and her salt mine or whatever this ride's storyline is.
No matter what they do, there's no way they'll be able to make people forget that this attraction was once Splash Mountain. Not just because of what a popular attraction it was, but because of how they're using the exact same track, structure, and apparently a couple of the animatronics.
Disgruntled Walt
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They saw it during the late summer 2022 and said it would exceed my VERY MINIMAL expectations for the ride (i.e. that it would be screen-based). But this person and I disagreed on the merits of replacing the ride, so their opinion may have skewed their interpretation of the ride-thru.
Disgruntled Walt
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Thank you for posting everything you have—it's helped a lot with dealing with this craziness and it's made me appreciate what we lost much more than before.
Nland316
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Thank you for being so thorough in your postings! Really generous of you to be so informative.
I understand the desire to make this attraction be its own thing apart from Splash, and it most definitely should be, but do they not realize it will always be compared to Splash? If a steamboat makes perfect sense for the finale, then who cares if the same idea is reused? I would argue that this excuse is pretty hypocritical considering the new exterior will largely still resemble Splash. Good design is good design.
Granted, I have no clue what they have planned for the attraction/finale, but I really do not agree with this style of creative approach/reasoning.
MerlinTheGoat
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It's replacing another ride, and still retaining most of the same facade and all of the track layout and basic room layouts. So by its nature they will never be able to divorce themselves from comparisons to what preceded it. They also have a long history of knowing how fans of attractions feel about having their beloved rides gutted and replaced.
Splash was/is an amazing ride and always will be. The more similar this is to Splash Mountain, the better.
Splash was/is an amazing ride and always will be. The more similar this is to Splash Mountain, the better.
The person I spoke with seemed to see it pretty close to the same time. I believe September to early October not long after D23. They were quite certain the attraction would be horrible, and are completely against the retheme to this day. But whatever they saw (including a ton of other details shared with them) caused a dramatic shift in opinion on the quality of the replacement. They're still just as against Splash closing as ever, but they're now of the opinion that the replacement will likely be a "worthy" of Splash. We'll see though. Like I said, a huge factor in my interest will depend on the quality of the scenery and the quantity/quality of the animatronics. Of course, there's other factors like the narrative and music.