News Tiana's Bayou Adventure - latest details and construction progress

[Smiley/OCD]

You assume thats splash water. The way disney has been charging more that might be the new dasani 6 dollar bottled waters.

And probably just as clear…AND, just so everybody knows, salt IS added to Dasani…hmmm…

 

[Tha Realest]

I presented you with a reason why they may be keeping quiet about his involvement. The project and its PR are unique and not comparable to how they would handle any other attraction. Again, he's "the old white guy who created that alleged horrible racist ride we're destroying". They want Charita Carter (who again is an accountant, not a creative) and the other diversity crew out there promoting the ride.

I hope your source(s) didn’t posit this theory, as it reflects a deeply cynical and manipulative mindset that’s really offensive to the abilities and agency of the minorities and women working on this attraction.

 

[Incomudro]

If that’s the case that seems like such an extremely back handed and disrespectful way to treat one of your creatives that gave your parks some of its greatest attractions. Especially if this ride turns out great because of his involvement.

“Hey, I’m gonna need you to help rework one of your rides because people think it’s racist. We also won’t be giving you credit.”
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I wouldn't put this past the current day Disney management.

 

[MerlinTheGoat]

I hope your source(s) didn’t posit this theory, as it reflects a deeply cynical and manipulative mindset that’s really offensive to the abilities and agency of the minorities and women working on this attraction.

The theory on WHY Tony could be hands-off on the promotion is my own, I made that very clear every time I posted it and explained my reasons. The source simply stated that Tony was involved with the project and that his proposals are being used in the current and final plan. His involvement was one of the reasons the source did a complete 180 on the project (along with the other details shared with them). Had Tony stormed out angrily and had his plans thrown in the trash can, i'm 100% certain this would have been conveyed to me.

To elaborate on some things regarding the "leadership" behind TBA (this likely won't go over well with certain people here, we'll see if the mods allow it to remain)-

What isn't my own theory (and these are things the source agrees with) is the assessment that Charita Carter and Carmen Smith could not conceptualize a quality project on their own. Charita Carter is an accountant, not a creative. Carmen Smith is an "editor" or sorts to ensure diversity quotas in Disney's stories are being met, and to attempt to deal with "problematic" elements in new and past media. So again, a non creative.

Basically if Charita Carter and Carmen Smith were the ones calling all the shots behind this project, we'd be in big trouble. Their fingerprints ARE all over the salt mine grocery backstory they've cobbled together for the queue and exterior. But from what I was led to believe, more talented individuals have been placed in charge of the actual ride content. Hence the claims that Tony Baxter and even Bob Weis (another person who might raise eyebrows due to the baggage of Disney's America) were involved in its creation. Among an army of other allegedly talented individuals whose faces you won't see when Charita and her clique do their New Orleans promo tours.

I will ask for an update and clarification on Tony's involvement/views on the project. We'll see if I get an answer. I've no issues retracting any previous comments if newer/different information comes out from someone I trust.

 

[BagOfGroceries]

I think the important thing is we’re getting a good ride.

 

[Smiley/OCD]

I think the important thing is we’re getting a good ride.

In theory…we hope…we will see in a year or 3…

 

[MerlinTheGoat]

I think the important thing is we’re getting a good ride.

I hope so. And hope is far more than I had when it was first announced. We'll see.

 

[EagleScout610]

This was brought up oin the DL thread but if they had put the same concept art we've seen 9 million times on the walls with the TBA logo on it, it would've been 100x more effective than Tiana's Food. The concept art would have made a first time guest think "Huh. That looks interesting", instead of "Tiana's Food? Isn't this a boat ride?"

 

[Cmdr_Crimson]

This was brought up oin the DL thread but if they had put the same concept art we've seen 9 million times on the walls with the TBA logo on it, it would've been 100x more effective than Tiana's Food. The concept art would have made a first time guest think "Huh. That looks interesting", instead of "Tiana's Food? Isn't this a boat ride?"
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They could even put up newspaper articles about the plot like they did with Rabbit Tales in the queue..

 

[Disgruntled Walt]

When you leave the attraction, you'll receive a certificate signifying that you, as an honorary employee, now own one share of Tiana's Foods! There will be a contest to see who can become the biggest shareholder, which will keep the lines long even after the honeymoon phase!

Then, when the animatronics are not functioning well after a couple of years, Disney can point the finger at the attraction's shareholders! "Don't blame us, Tiana's Foods is EMPLOYEE-owned!"

 

[MisterPenguin]

When you leave the attraction, you'll receive a certificate signifying that you, as an honorary employee, now own one share of Tiana's Foods! There will be a contest to see who can become the biggest shareholder, which will keep the lines long even after the honeymoon phase!

Then, when the animatronics are not functioning well after a couple of years, Disney can point the finger at the attraction's shareholders! "Don't blame us, Tiana's Foods is EMPLOYEE-owned!"

That's not how co-ops work.

 

[Disgruntled Walt]

That's not how co-ops work.

I don't really care how they work. I'm joking. And honestly, I hope that after riding it, I still don't know how they work.

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

Today’s Disney Dish went into how much the ride seems striving for authenticity perhaps at the expense of entertainment

That’s what they did with Star Wars too. People want to have fun!!!

 

[Smiley/OCD]

When you leave the attraction, you'll receive a certificate signifying that you, as an honorary employee, now own one share of Tiana's Foods! There will be a contest to see who can become the biggest shareholder, which will keep the lines long even after the honeymoon phase!

Then, when the animatronics are not functioning well after a couple of years, Disney can point the finger at the attraction's shareholders! "Don't blame us, Tiana's Foods is EMPLOYEE-owned!"

Worth about as much as a share of Disney stock…

 

[SJN1279]

Today’s Disney Dish went into how much the ride seems striving for authenticity perhaps at the expense of entertainment

I always felt the same way about Everest.

 

[dreday3]

I always felt the same way about Everest.

Everest has the best, most authentic feeling backstory out of almost any of the rides throughout Disney. The entire area leading up to the ride is part of the backstory if you take the time to read the posters, etc.

The queue itself is phenomenal in it's "fake" authenticity.

Everest should be the textbook entry on how to create an interesting, customer involved backstory.

 

[Disstevefan1]

Everest has the best, most authentic feeling backstory out of almost any of the rides throughout Disney. The entire area leading up to the ride is part of the backstory if you take the time to read the posters, etc.

The queue itself is phenomenal in it's "fake" authenticity.

Everest should be the textbook entry on how to create an interesting, customer involved backstory.

I don't think we will see an attraction with the quality of Everest ever again at WDW.

 

[Smiley/OCD]

One of (if not the BEST) Joe Rhode projects…Tony B. has(d) Splash and Joe has Everest…

 

[Cmdr_Crimson]

I don't think we will see an attraction with the quality of Everest ever again at WDW.

You have to go to the oversea parks for that unfortunately...

 

[TheMaxRebo]

I don't think we will see an attraction with the quality of Everest ever again at WDW.

I love Everest but Rise and Flight of Passage are more recent and just as good to me