MK Tiana's Bayou Adventure - latest details and construction progress

[MagicHappens1971]

Although, I do hope they keep the FSU weasel...

As an FSU alum I hope so too!!

 

[Bleed0range]

I have never been the biggest fan of Splash Mountain, I like the ride a lot, but I don’t have this strong connection to it like Pirates or Haunted Mansion or something… so I’m not that sad about the change. But I do feel the “weight” of the fandom being upset about the change. I feel bad for imagineers working every day out in the open with thousands of eyes watching them who are sad at what they’re doing. I’d feel terrible working on this project knowing I’m disappointing so many guests.

I’m not against the retheme, I think it may end up being really cool. But I feel like there’s probably no way the ride will ever be able to get out of the shadow of the original just like the original couldn’t get out of the shadow of its source material.

Which makes me feel bad for all those imagineers working on it whom I am sure are trying their best to deliver something as good or better.

 

[TDLFan]

I think also another aspect of Disney fans getting riled up, is that virtually anytime Disney replaces something nowadays, what comes after is a vastly inferior product and I really don't think that's an opinion that can be argued at length. I don't want another attraction where I'm sitting on it, only to be thinking of my fond memories of what was before. I'm looking at you Mission Space, Imagination, Test Track 2.0, Runaway Railway, Stitch's Great Escape, Frozen Ever After, Beauty and the Beast Sing a long, Galaxies Edge. Sigh. I'd add that it's more than just nostalgia anchoring those feelings. The care, quality, and artistry were all right there in plain sight and the difference in modern Disney is staggering, but we now live in an age where it's easier to just label someone you don't know and disagree with a racist because it's a no win, one way argument, rather than hold accountable what was ONCE the pinnacle of themed entertainment.

 

[Midwest Elitist]

I think also another aspect of Disney fans getting riled up, is that virtually anytime Disney replaces something nowadays, what comes after is a vastly inferior product and I really don't think that's an opinion that can be argued at length. I don't want another attraction where I'm sitting on it, only to be thinking of my fond memories of what was before. I'm looking at you Mission Space, Imagination, Test Track 2.0, Runaway Railway, Stitch's Great Escape, Frozen Ever After, Beauty and the Beast Sing a long, Galaxies Edge. Sigh. I'd add that it's more than just nostalgia anchoring those feelings. The care, quality, and artistry were all right there in plain sight and the difference in modern Disney is staggering, but we now live in an age where it's easier to just label someone you don't know and disagree with a racist because it's a no win, one way argument, rather than hold accountable what was ONCE the pinnacle of themed entertainment.

I remember how fun the stunt show was, and the cast members were really enjoying themselves (Circa 2013)! Now it feels like everything is just marketing attractions, and the staff are miserable.

 

[Bleed0range]

I think also another aspect of Disney fans getting riled up, is that virtually anytime Disney replaces something nowadays, what comes after is a vastly inferior product and I really don't think that's an opinion that can be argued at length. I don't want another attraction where I'm sitting on it, only to be thinking of my fond memories of what was before. I'm looking at you Mission Space, Imagination, Test Track 2.0, Runaway Railway, Stitch's Great Escape, Frozen Ever After, Beauty and the Beast Sing a long, Galaxies Edge. Sigh. I'd add that it's more than just nostalgia anchoring those feelings. The care, quality, and artistry were all right there in plain sight and the difference in modern Disney is staggering, but we now live in an age where it's easier to just label someone you don't know and disagree with a racist because it's a no win, one way argument, rather than hold accountable what was ONCE the pinnacle of themed entertainment.

I think sometimes this is muddled with nostalgia. I do think some things have been replaced by better things. It could be my personal opinion not being colored by nostalgia.

I am not nostalgic for splash because I didn’t ride it much when I was a kid. I have nostalgia for Haunted Mansion for sure but it’s also an OG ride.

I know that I never really participated in any of the attractions Galaxy’s Edge replaced and I love Star Wars so I’m going to say I prefer it. I think GE is a pretty stellar place despite its shortcomings. My favorite parts of MGM/Hollywood didn’t get replaced.

 

[TDLFan]

There was nothing like the Hollywood Backlot at Christmas. It just oozed warmth, charm, spectacle. It was an amazing experience.

 

[Midwest Elitist]

I think sometimes this is muddled with nostalgia. I do think some things have been replaced by better things. It could be my personal opinion not being colored by nostalgia.

I am not nostalgic for splash because I didn’t ride it much when I was a kid. I have nostalgia for Haunted Mansion for sure but it’s also an OG ride.

I know that I never really participated in any of the attractions Galaxy’s Edge replaced and I love Star Wars so I’m going to say I prefer it. I think GE is a pretty stellar place despite its shortcomings. My favorite parts of MGM/Hollywood didn’t get replaced.

I don't remember riding Splash until I was 14. It was mind-blowing seeing the indoor area for the first time, I thought it was just a drop. And the way the bluegrass music starts up when you get off the second lift hill into the ride proper. It's almost like a transition into the world of Br'er Rabbit. The birdhouse singing HDYD. The geese greeting you. The animals playing NATURAL instruments. The scream on the dip. The vultures taunting you. Dropping into the Briar Patch, which is genius, followed by the calm violins and harmonicas of Zipadeedoodah. Then the finale.

While things were broken when I went in 2021, those feelings remained.

It's all perfect. Now it's gone.

 

[Incomudro]

I asked this before, but can't remember, what was the reason they decided to not retell the story of the film? It just seems like this is way more complicated than it needed to be, especially when they're bleeding money.

Inclusivity.
These new people, bereft of creativity, and most importantly - a sense of FUN - believe they know better.
And they're going to teach us.

 

[Brer Panther]

Apparently we want to celebrate diverse cultures unless that culture practices voodoo, then we pretend they don’t practice voodoo.

And yet Mama Odie is allowed in. Go figure.

 

[Incomudro]

The story of this ride apparently runs parallel to the upcoming television series, which I suppose they're hoping will be somewhat successful. It's a sequel ride, not a book report ride. People can be annoyed that this didn't go the route of being a book report if they feel that would have fit better, but I don't think the assertion that the ride must include some arbitrary amount of "adversity" or recycle the original villain in order to be successful has much merit given precedent.

EDIT: Sorry, response above got added while I was typing. Didn't meant to ignore it, but sameish thought. It's cool if you think Friends on the Other Side would have fit well; I was just responding to the notion that fantasy rides have some sort of adversity quota. Also, what people define as "good" is pretty arbitrary, so I tried to mention popularity rather than quality whenever possible since that's probably more measurable.

This is the same logic Disney uses with Star Wars.
We see how well that turns out.
These people are handed gold, and they make lead out of it.

 

[WorldExplorer]

Inclusivity.
These new people, bereft of creativity, and most importantly - a sense of FUN - believe they know better.
And they're going to teach us.

The movie was trying to be inclusive, but apparently ended up being so bad that 70% of it or so can't be acknowledged.

The ride is trying to be inclusive, and this time, absolutely, it will be looked upon as a shining gem of inclusivity for all time. Really.

 

[Incomudro]

And yet Mama Odie is allowed in. Go figure.

The one saving grace.

 

[MisterPenguin]

Black man practices voodoo. Apparently we want to celebrate diverse cultures unless that culture practices voodoo, then we pretend they don’t practice voodoo.

And yet Mama Odie is allowed in. Go figure.

How many times do we need to debunk this totally made-up story that Disney is cancelling Facilier out of concern for Voodoo/Hoodoo?

Facilier shows up quite regularly in the parks. Every time there's a cohort of villains, he's there. He's there in Fantasmic! (the recently refurbed Fantasmic! which would have been an opportunity to remove him). He's there in the Halloween parade and the Hocus Pocus Spelltacular castle show.

Stop making up stuff.

 

[matt9112]

I understand your viewpoint on the nostalgia and connection to the Brers but they’re gone and there’s nothing anyone can do to stop it or bring them back. Why root for the new attraction to fail? If anything they’d just replace it with another IP in 10-15 years

Just visit Japan…..

 

[Prince-1]

How many times do we need to debunk this totally made-up story that Disney is cancelling Facilier out of concern for Voodoo/Hoodoo?

Facilier shows up quite regularly in the parks. Every time there's a cohort of villains, he's there. He's there in Fantasmic! (the recently refurbed Fantasmic! which would have been an opportunity to remove him). He's there in the Halloween parade and the Hocus Pocus Spelltacular castle show.

Stop making up stuff.

These posters are just regurgitating their same old tired nonsense. They don’t worry about letting facts get in their way.

 

[Drdcm]

I don't remember riding Splash until I was 14. It was mind-blowing seeing the indoor area for the first time, I thought it was just a drop. And the way the bluegrass music starts up when you get off the second lift hill into the ride proper. It's almost like a transition into the world of Br'er Rabbit. The birdhouse singing HDYD. The geese greeting you. The animals playing NATURAL instruments. The scream on the dip. The vultures taunting you. Dropping into the Briar Patch, which is genius, followed by the calm violins and harmonicas of Zipadeedoodah. Then the finale.

While things were broken when I went in 2021, those feelings remained.

It's all perfect. Now it's gone.

I do legitimately think the general sense and atmosphere (until the lift bill at least) will be similar. They’re clearly paying attention to the music, it sounds like there will be a bunch of AAs and most likely quite a few more advanced AAs. I personally love that style of music, which might not be for everyone. Now I say this as someone who’s favorite ride hands down was splash. I suppose all good things must come to an end eventually… I suppose I can continue to be upset, or just hope for the best

 

[gerarar]

Every time there's a cohort of villains, he's there. He's there in Fantasmic! (the recently refurbed Fantasmic! which would have been an opportunity to remove him).

Dr. Facilier never appeared in Fantasmic! at WDW or DL.

His shadow demons do show up for a small cameo in DL's F! 2.0 when the Old Hag calls upon the forces of evils as projections on the cabin.

The recent refurbishment at WDW did add Tiana and Prince Naveen dancing in the transition projections from the new hero segment to princess segment.

 

[AidanCKY]

I don't remember riding Splash until I was 14. It was mind-blowing seeing the indoor area for the first time, I thought it was just a drop. And the way the bluegrass music starts up when you get off the second lift hill into the ride proper. It's almost like a transition into the world of Br'er Rabbit. The birdhouse singing HDYD. The geese greeting you. The animals playing NATURAL instruments. The scream on the dip. The vultures taunting you. Dropping into the Briar Patch, which is genius, followed by the calm violins and harmonicas of Zipadeedoodah. Then the finale.

While things were broken when I went in 2021, those feelings remained.

It's all perfect. Now it's gone.

This 100%. It was basically the perfect example of a Disney ride. Brilliant consistent and elaborate theming, great music, a bit of thrill and a cohesive story.

Mostly to be thrown out and screens installed.

 

[Ayla]

How many times do we need to debunk this totally made-up story that Disney is cancelling Facilier out of concern for Voodoo/Hoodoo?

Facilier shows up quite regularly in the parks. Every time there's a cohort of villains, he's there. He's there in Fantasmic! (the recently refurbed Fantasmic! which would have been an opportunity to remove him). He's there in the Halloween parade and the Hocus Pocus Spelltacular castle show.

Stop making up stuff.

They have nothing to whine about if they don't make up stuff.

 

[MerlinTheGoat]

Facilier was one of the more prominent controversies surrounding the film when it was announced and released. A stereotypical evil black voodoo witch doctor. This was overshadowed to some extent by the character's tremendous popularity, but criticism still persists to this day.

I don't know if this is why he's absent from the ride, but it wouldn't surprise me. There are other similar reasons why they went with the sequel story instead of a book report ride of the movie (such as complaints that Tiana is a frog for 90% of the film).

But regardless, the absence of the best thing about the original movie is going to leave a gaping hole, and it remains to be seen whether they can hope to fill it. They threw away a perfect opportunity to place a Friend's on the Other Side sequence in the flooded cave and final lift. Even if the ride was still a sequel and Facilier only returned temporarily as some sort of resurrection but was returned to hell at the top by Mama Odie.