Tiana's Bayou Adventure: Disneyland Watch & Discussion

[Vegas Disney Fan]

Worst-case scenario: someone askes a CM, "Who's that?", and the CM replies, "Tiana". No big deal.

I agree that many people will probably confuse her for a guest cosplay in the park but my question would be does that matter? If someone walks by her without realizing who she is that going to diminish their vacation in any way? I’d argue no.

I’ve seen many guests walk by characters without noticing them, no harm, no foul. I’ve also seen guests (myself included) absolutely lose their mind over getting a picture of a rare character or a picture of a character in an alternate costume. The pros outweigh the cons for me.

It’s different enough to be unique but it’s “Tianaesque” enough that inside the actual ride I don’t think anyone will confuse who she is.

 

[CaptinEO]

Sure if their adventure gear looked like this.

If they did this I'd gladly call myself a Disney Adult.

 

[Too Many Hats]

Over time, I predict the ride is going to dramatically raise Tiana’s profile with the general public. So even if many guests don’t recognize the character in this outfit in 2024, eventually Tiana (& bayou-explorer Tiana in particular) may become very directly associated with the big log flume ride at Disney parks (assuming the walkaround character/outfit sticks around).

 

[MisterPenguin]

Some of the characters have a winter outfit that isn't from the movie.

 

[wdrive]

Just how dumb and clueless do you think Disney Parks guests are?

I don’t. But as I said earlier I don’t know the ins and outs of my local regional park. If you have a character in a ride and have a few seconds per scene that they are in they need to be instantly recognisable.

Obviously I hope Disney manage this I’m just struggling to see how they will with Tiana dressed this way

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

I think the costume looks like Disney bounding guest as well. I really don’t get so much of what Disney is doing with this project.

As much as I like the original splash, I wasn’t originally against this idea but goodness they seem to be making a complete mess out of this.

 

[EPCOTCenterLover]

You’re overthinking this. It’s going to be a fun log ride with appealing characters. An original concept, like Western River Expedition, would have been wonderful, but we all know Imagineering isn’t allowed to do anything non-IP anymore.

So maybe this is Imagineering’s way of trying something original using an IP. It’s as close to creating a new story from scratch as today’s Disney will allow.

This is a really good point I never thought of before.

On another note, I'm sure it's truly only a small number of people that are really looking for something to be mad about. But I get it. In today's hyper-charged, divisive environment, many people feel like they need to fight and argue about everything. Very sad, IMHO.

 

[Californian Elitist]

Then why bother making it about The Princess and the Frog whatsoever? Just call it the Salt Mine Restaurant ride with some random characters in it.

I just find it odd if a ride has a popular IP in it and you have to Google which character is who

Are you not going to answer my last question? I feel like you answered the first one. Again, what will happen if a guest doesn’t instantly recognize a character in a ride?

The ride isn’t about Princess and the Frog. It’s been reported many times that it takes place after the movie, hence the new material they’ve come up with. The title of the ride is “Tiana’s Bayou Adventure,” not “The Princess and the Frog.”

 

[Californian Elitist]

Thanks for clearing up, I guess we wait and see when the ride opens how clear it all is, I’m just very intrigued how they will do it as I don’t see an obvious way with the information we currently have

You’re welcome.

This is the first time I’ve seen you post in this thread recently. I don’t know if you were reading the thread at the time, but some folks overreacted over the announcement that the attraction (mind you, it was never specified where in the attraction” would “briefly” touch on Tiana’s dad James’ WWI service. It was a fiasco.

 

[Rich T]

I don’t. But as I said earlier I don’t know the ins and outs of my local regional park. If you have a character in a ride and have a few seconds per scene that they are in they need to be instantly recognisable.

Obviously I hope Disney manage this I’m just struggling to see how they will with Tiana dressed this way

By the time the ride opens, more people will probably have seen “Adventure Tiana” in advertising images than have seen the movie. There will probably be a ride poster with her in the costume. She could appear like this in the entry signage. The animatronic, for all we know, might say, “Hi! I’m Tiana!” The merchandise all over the park is going to feature her in the new outfit.

I cannot imagine anyone stepping into the log without already knowing that Tiana’s wearing the new outfit on this ride. If they DON’T know by that time, then they have no interest in theme parks to begin with, and will likely spend the entire ride staring at their phone playing solitaire.

 

[Professortango1]

What about her outfit leads guests to believe she’s a princess? It just looks like a woman in vaguely 1920s clothing.

I do suspect the average Los Angeleno who visits the park will know who this is from marketing, but the family of four from Phoenix will be clueless.

In all fairness, the family from Phoenix didn't know who Brer Rabbit was. Or who Mr. Toad is. A rides success shouldn't depend upon familiarity and fondness of the IP. It's how I can enjoy Finding Nemo and Guardians of Galaxy while also acknowledge that their attractions are huge downgrades from the ride they replaced.

 

[wdrive]

Are you not going to answer my last question? I feel like you answered the first one. Again, what will happen if a guest doesn’t instantly recognize a character in a ride?

The ride isn’t about Princess and the Frog. It’s been reported many times that it takes place after the movie, hence the new material they’ve come up with. The title of the ride is “Tiana’s Bayou Adventure,” not “The Princess and the Frog.”

Which other ride would they struggle with? Peter Pan I think it’s all pretty self explanatory, the Matterhorn for the half a second you see the yeti it’s pretty clear what he or she is. If we went on Snow White and she had a trench coat on with a pair of jeans that would be pretty odd. I guess Jessica Rabbit on Roger Rabbit falls into this category too now, which I would also say is an awful decision.

Not about Princess and the Frog but has all the characters from the movie? Okay. This ride is getting extremely complicated now.

 

[wdrive]

You’re welcome.

This is the first time I’ve seen you post in this thread recently. I don’t know if you were reading the thread at the time, but some folks overreacted over the announcement that the attraction (mind you, it was never specified where in the attraction” would “briefly” touch on Tiana’s dad James’ WWI service. It was a fiasco.

Oh absolutely I’ve followed this thread since it started, have rarely commented but I remember the hoopla way back.

I am excited to ride this for the record and I think if done correctly will fit in perfectly in Disneyland bridging New Orleans Square and Critter Country. I have just lost trust in current day Disney management to do things perfectly. Anywho I’m going on a bit of a tangent here.

 

[PiratesMansion]

Just occured to me that at no point is Captain Jack Sparrow identified by name in POTC.

Yes, the new writers for its 2006 update felt unnaturally compelled to add "Captain Jack Sparrow!!111" to almost every bit of dialogue they changed, but at no point are the characters like "There he is! It's Captain Jack Sparrow!!111." AND at no point when he actually shows up is he like "HI!!! I'm Captain Jack Sparrow!!111." And yet people are able to figure it out.

And yes, POTC is a much bigger deal than PATF, but it's not just box office that matters, and frankly the people that are really into PATF are unlikely to be of the age where they're posting on forums like these (I'd wager the youngest person who regularly posts on this side of the boards is around 27 years old and distinctly in the minority here in terms of age, with the overwhelming majority of posters older or much older than 27. Not exactly the prime demo to see the Princess and the Frog in theaters or watch it obsessively on home video/D+, especially when many here don't watch or seek out the animated movies regularly).

 

[Rich T]

Which other ride would they struggle with? Peter Pan I think it’s all pretty self explanatory, the Matterhorn for the half a second you see the yeti it’s pretty clear what he or she is. If we went on Snow White and she had a trench coat on with a pair of jeans that would be pretty odd. I guess Jessica Rabbit on Roger Rabbit falls into this category too now, which I would also say is an awful decision.

Not about Princess and the Frog but has all the characters from the movie? Okay. This ride is getting extremely complicated now.

Again, it won’t be a problem because guests will be shown, before boarding, that this is a new adventure and Tiana is dressed for the occasion. It won’t seem odd at all.

Snow White, on the other hand, would indeed look odd in a trench coat because the outfit doesn’t match the time period or story being told on that ride.

For the record, I think Jessica’s new look on RRCS actually works and adds a fun implied backstory— That her experience with Eddie Valient got her interested in becoming a detective. Kinda neat!

 

[drizgirl]

Again, it won’t be a problem because guests will be shown, before boarding, that this is a new adventure and Tiana is dressed for the occasion. It won’t seem odd at all.

Snow White, on the other hand, would indeed look odd in a trench coat because the outfit doesn’t match the time period or story being told on that ride.

For the record, I think Jessica’s new look on RRCS actually works and adds a fun implied backstory— That her experience with Eddie Valient got her interested in becoming a detective. Kinda neat!

Plenty of guests are on their phones booking their next Genie+ while in line. Most won't get it.

 

[Rich T]

Plenty of guests are on their phones booking their next Genie+ while in line. Most won't get it.

Disagree—Or, at least, the ones who won’t get it never cared about it in the first place.

By the time the ride opens, the image of Tiana in the new outfit will be everywhere: in all the advertising, on the ride poster, and every bit of merchandise. Probably walking around the park as a meet n’greet accompanied by Louis to make it obvious.

 

[Californian Elitist]

Which other ride would they struggle with? Peter Pan I think it’s all pretty self explanatory, the Matterhorn for the half a second you see the yeti it’s pretty clear what he or she is. If we went on Snow White and she had a trench coat on with a pair of jeans that would be pretty odd. I guess Jessica Rabbit on Roger Rabbit falls into this category too now, which I would also say is an awful decision.

Not about Princess and the Frog but has all the characters from the movie? Okay. This ride is getting extremely complicated now.

It’s not about The Princess and the Frog. If it was, we wouldn’t be getting new characters that aren’t in the film and Dr. Facilier would be in the ride. We also wouldn’t be getting articles and videos explaining the plot for the ride because, if it actually was supposed to reflect the movie, we’d already know the plot. But, since it takes place after the movie and is therefore not based on the movie, they have to explain to us what’s going on because…again, it’s not the movie. This isn’t extremely complicated at all. It’s quite simple.

All of the characters in Pan are not introduced to riders. Who is the girl in the blue nightgown? And who are the boys with her? How will guests still enjoy the ride if they don’t know who they are and haven’t been introduced to them?

You continue to over-complicate this.

 

[wdrive]

It’s not about The Princess and the Frog. If it was, we wouldn’t be getting new characters that aren’t in the film and Dr. Facilier would be in the ride. We also wouldn’t be getting articles and videos explaining the plot for the ride because, if it actually was supposed to reflect the movie, we’d already know the plot. But, since it takes place after the movie and is therefore not based on the movie, they have to explain to us what’s going on because…again, it’s not the movie. This isn’t extremely complicated at all. It’s quite simple.

All of the characters in Pan are not introduced to riders. Who is the girl in the blue nightgown? And who are the boys with her? How will guests still enjoy the ride if they don’t know who they are and haven’t been introduced to them?

You continue to over-complicate this.

Exactly. They don’t need explaining, people already know them or can make a good guess as to who they are.

Tiana dressed in a random outfit needs explaining, which I find odd as a choice for an attraction .

I don’t think it’s me over complicating things. The team behind this new attraction has over complicated it.

 

[Rich T]

Tiana dressed in a random outfit needs explaining, which I find odd as a choice for an attraction .

It’s not a random outfit. It’s. It’s a cool new look that fits the story. The story is called Tiana’s Bayou Adventure.

You know what would be weird? Tiana standing in a swamp wearing ANY outfit that appeared in the movie.

This is a ride sequel to the Princess and the Frog. And I think it’s going to be a lot of fun and confuse absolutely no one.

Imagineering is full of talented storytellers, and I’ve got a good feeling about the possibilities here and their ability to make it work. If the ride opens and there are story clarity issues, then by all means let’s all discuss it—After we’ve all actually experienced it.