Tiana's Bayou Adventure: Disneyland Watch & Discussion

[Californian Elitist]

The new costume will also gain visibility through WDW.

Exactly. And through proper marketing, which we all know Disney will do. People will learn who this version of Tiana is, including people in Phoenix, Arizona.

 

[Too Many Hats]

It’s going to be one of the most popular attractions in the park. It’s a new outfit and I can see how it’s not as loud or fantastical as other costumes, but people will quickly “get it.” I don’t know all the Marvel or Star Wars sequel walkaround characters — but the real fans do.

 

[chadwpalm]

Not by the time the ride opens. I can picture in my head the tidal wave of marketing that’s being readied. They’ve got plenty of time to make this outfit instantly recognizable.

You mean the same marketing team that is leading the casual guest to believe the ride is becoming a restaurant?

 

[Rich T]

What about her outfit leads guests to believe she’s a princess? It just looks like a woman in vaguely 1920s clothing.

I do suspect the average Los Angeleno who visits the park will know who this is from marketing, but the family of four from Phoenix will be clueless.

Family of Four from Phoenix, if their vacation isn’t already ruined by prices, overcrowding, virtual queue reservations and a lot of other things, will be happy if the ride is functioning. They will not be falling to their knees in confusion and turmoil because Tiana changed her clothes. And the kids will instantly get the concept and fill their parents in.

 

[Rich T]

You mean the same marketing team that is leading the casual guest to believe the ride is becoming a restaurant?

We, the folks who frequent this forum, are among the only people on earth who spend even a nanosecond concerned about ANY of this. I’m pretty sure this is gonna turn out fine and most guests will like Tiana’s new threads.

 

[Californian Elitist]

A guest at Disneyland once asked me where the “dinosaur ride” was. Turns out they were looking for Jurassic Park at Universal.

Guests don’t always know everything about rides and characters. It’s no big deal.

 

[Rich T]

A guest at Disneyland once asked me where the “dinosaur ride” was. Turns out they were looking for Jurassic Park at Universal.

Guests don’t always know everything about rides and characters. It’s no big deal.

I was waiting for the Bourne show at Universal Orlando last week, and a group of casual park goers in front of me was discussing the rides, and what to do next. The Mummy was suggested. A man in the group shook his head and said he’d done it a few years ago, and didn’t enjoy it. He then described the experience in great detail. I kept quiet, but the nearby CM calmly corrected him: “No, Sir, that’s Indiana Jones at Disneyland in California.”

 

[wdrive]

Sorry, by preshow I mean the queue and all signage along the way.

Many if not most of the adults who ride TBA—or any character-based ride—have never seen the film it’s based on. They just want to have a fun experience. Kids figure out the ride setup in about two seconds.

Tiana’s costume, if the ride is well designed, will be a non-issue; the attraction should stand on its own and tell a fun story regardless of whether or not a guest has ever seen PatF.

But this is Disney we’re talking about, and I am quite certain they will unleash their full marketing power to sell as much Adventurer-Tiana merch as possible.

And five years from now? Doesn’t matter. People will get it or they won’t. Most of the people riding Splash Mtn. over its lifespan had no clue who the singing Easter Bunny was. Fans made the effort to learn, Joe and Jane Whatsatheme just enjoyed a fun, pretty log flume ride.

Then what was the whole point of shoe horning in an IP that doesn’t fit into the environment of the ride? I thought the whole point of this was to remove a problematic IP and replace it with one that is not problematic and can sell products. Might as well made it into an original attraction. On my first viewing of the new Tiana costume I thought it was the costume for the cast working the attraction

Look at it this way, if a family paid for the Princess breakfast and all the Princesses in attendance were dressed in their ‘adventure gear’, pants, beige jackets etc how many would be asking for refunds?

 

[wdrive]

WDW feature animation has always had their characters wear exactly one thing always, and characters in the parks are always seen only in 100% film accurate costumes. Uh huh.

I mean pretty much all of this is correct? Am I wrong?

 

[wdrive]

Right. I honestly equate this to the various costumes Mickey and Minnie wear. They have their iconic fits, but we still know who they are.

If you had Mickey and Minnie naked they’re still clearly identifiable. Take one of Tiana’s iconic outfits away, or any human cartoon character for that matter, and she’s just a random woman.

 

[wdrive]

Worst-case scenario: someone askes a CM, "Who's that?", and the CM replies, "Tiana". No big deal.

People really are latching onto anything to criticise.

I’m talking more about the actual attraction than a meet and greet

 

[PiratesMansion]

I was waiting for the Bourne show at Universal Orlando last week, and a group of casual park goers in front of me was discussing the rides, and what to do next. The Mummy was suggested. A man in the group shook his head and said he’d done it a few years ago, and didn’t enjoy it. He then described the experience in great detail. I kept quiet, but the nearby CM calmly corrected him: “No, Sir, that’s Indiana Jones at Disneyland in California.”

That is truly impressive. Wow.

If you had Mickey and Minnie naked they’re still clearly identifiable. Take one of Tiana’s iconic outfits away, or any human cartoon character for that matter, and she’s just a random woman.

As noted, there are like three black characters in Disney movies that are easily identifiable. Given that she's the only one with her own ride AND restaurant, I imagine people will be able to figure it out.

I mean pretty much all of this is correct? Am I wrong?

1. Cinderella's dress in the film isn't blue.
2. The Dwarfs costumes vary dramatically from what they look like in the Snow White film.
3. Jasmine has had a different outfit from what she wears in the film for close to a decade, presumably because people are gross.

None of those are exactly obscure characters. Nor, despite much attempted obfuscating by some people in this thread, is Tiana.

 

[wdrive]

1. Cinderella's dress in the film isn't blue.
2. The Dwarfs costumes vary dramatically from what they look like in the Snow White film.
3. Jasmine has had a different outfit from what she wears in the film for close to a decade, presumably because people are gross.

None of those are exactly obscure characters. Nor, despite much attempted obfuscating by some people in this thread, is Tiana.

Tiana’s outfit is drastically different to anything she’s ever been seen wearing, it’s not a close comparison
They’re all still identifiable as those characters. I really didn’t even think that was Tiana when I first saw the photo and I don’t think I’m too stupid or crazy

 

[PiratesMansion]

I’m talking more about the actual attraction than a meet and greet

If you walk by a labeled picture of Tiana in the queue for the ride with her name on it, do you not then presumably know who Tiana is?

And again, it's not like Tiana just came from nowhere. Her film's been out for awhile.


If not, as noted, they can ask somebody. And if they don't do any of that, presumably they might still enjoy the ride anyway.

No one was wringing in anxiety over not knowing who the Pirates were before the POTC movie came out. Nor do I imagine there was ever a person who became upset because they didn't know what every single diorama in Storybook Land represented. Or that they had no idea who the heck Mr. Toad was.

This whole thing just reeks of people wanting a reason to be mad.

 

[LittleBuford]

I’m talking more about the actual attraction than a meet and greet

It’s called “Tiana’s Bayou Adventure”. She’s the protagonist of the attraction. What sort of room for confusion do you think there can possibly be?

 

[Californian Elitist]

I was waiting for the Bourne show at Universal Orlando last week, and a group of casual park goers in front of me was discussing the rides, and what to do next. The Mummy was suggested. A man in the group shook his head and said he’d done it a few years ago, and didn’t enjoy it. He then described the experience in great detail. I kept quiet, but the nearby CM calmly corrected him: “No, Sir, that’s Indiana Jones at Disneyland in California.”

Literally two different ride experiences. One is a whole rollercoaster. Someone at Universal asked me where Pirates of the Caribbean was. I gave them the actual driving directions and politely told them they bought tickets for the wrong theme park.

Disney and Universal are not concerned/worried about the guests who know their characters and rides or if they don’t know them. It really is the least of their concerns. I don’t know who half the characters in SW:GE are. Disney doesn’t care if I know them or not, and they shouldn’t care.

 

[Rich T]

Then what was the whole point of shoe horning in an IP that doesn’t fit into the environment of the ride? I thought the whole point of this was to remove a problematic IP and replace it with one that is not problematic and can sell products. Might as well made it into an original attraction. On my first viewing of the new Tiana costume I thought it was the costume for the cast working the attraction

Look at it this way, if a family paid for the Princess breakfast and all the Princesses in attendance were dressed in their ‘adventure gear’, pants, beige jackets etc how many would be asking for refunds?

You’re overthinking this. It’s going to be a fun log ride with appealing characters. An original concept, like Western River Expedition, would have been wonderful, but we all know Imagineering isn’t allowed to do anything non-IP anymore.

So maybe this is Imagineering’s way of trying something original using an IP. It’s as close to creating a new story from scratch as today’s Disney will allow.

Re: The Pretty Princesses On Parade While People Pig Out Overpriced Dining Experience: I’m guessing no one would ask for refunds, because the performers do such an amazing job of interacting with guests.

But “new look” Tiana will be front and center in all publicity for the ride, so that situation won’t arise anyhow.

 

[Californian Elitist]

If you had Mickey and Minnie naked they’re still clearly identifiable. Take one of Tiana’s iconic outfits away, or any human cartoon character for that matter, and she’s just a random woman.

Just how dumb and clueless do you think Disney Parks guests are?

 

[Phroobar]

Look at it this way, if a family paid for the Princess breakfast and all the Princesses in attendance were dressed in their ‘adventure gear’, pants, beige jackets etc how many would be asking for refunds?

Sure if their adventure gear looked like this.

 

[Californian Elitist]

This whole thing just reeks of people wanting a reason to be mad.

This is what it boils down to.

Add it to the list of questionable and odd complaints and concerns.