I'm guessing since she would still be around for a sequel she gets a pass since it'll most likely be her "Magic" that gets us up the big hill
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Tiana's Bayou Adventure: Disneyland Watch & Discussion
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Snippet from an extensive interview with Charita Carter at Forbes -
"Before the pandemic turned the world upside down, the Mickey and Minnie attraction was open for nine days. A few months later, the then President of Walt Disney Imagineering, Bob Weis, contacted Carter and told her that "we are bringing Princess Tiana to both Magic Kingdom and Disneyland, and we would like you to be the producer," she disclosed as tears flooded her face. She communicates that her creative journey as an Imagineer was only just unfolding.
The preliminary conceptualizations by Blue Sky fueled the current ideas that helped to complete Princess Tiana's Bayou Adventure attraction. Carter's team is presently solidifying the script for the ride, which is the synergistic phase, "People get together in a room, [with] a board, [and] start throwing stuff on the board, pin it up, and have a conversation, and you read people's body language."
However, the pandemic halted in-person creative interaction, and the group had to rely on Zoom calls to continue constructing the project. Carter worked with Carmen Smith, Senior Vice President, and Executive Creative Development Product/Content and Inclusive Strategies for Disney Parks, Experiences, and Products; she made sure to supply the teams with connections, knowledge, and the necessary tools to work on the design. Since the employees could not travel to New Orleans, Louisiana, where Princess Tiana's story takes place, one of their colleagues who worked in New Orleans provided the team members with virtual tours of the location by using her iPhone on a gimbal.
"We're getting ready to go into our production phase where we start building stuff, then next we'll be at a point where we start installing. We will have previews for our guests, cut that ribbon, and then we get to be opened up to the world," Carter promises of the ride that will be available to the public in late 2024.
When the animated film "Princess and The Frog" premiered in 2009, it was met with jubilation. "Finally, here is something that all little girls, especially young black girls, can embrace," Cori Murray, the then entertainment director at Essence magazine, said to CNN. The first Disney-animated African American princess impacted young girls to women who finally had the chance to see themselves reflected in a cherished art form.
Carter recollects, outfitted in a green dress, going to a fundraiser at a museum in New Orleans that selected Princess Tiana as the theme with a group of Imagineers. "There was a sense of inspiration and pride in seeing that, but I remember going to this particular ball, and the majority of the African-American people there were serving. They were either in the kitchen or doing various things. I remember walking in with my dress on, and one of the waiters asked, 'Do you have a minute?' I'm going to cry when I tell the story," Carter becomes visibly emotional as her voice shakes and eyes well up with tears as she retells the poignant story.
"And I said, 'Sure.' I walked back toward the back, and they had all lined up and started clapping. They shared what Tiana meant to them and what it meant for me to be at that ball. Tiana inspires me because she represents a woman who looks like me, has a dream, works very hard, and won't take no for an answer; she overcame and then wanted to turn back and make sure that everybody else was healthy and whole in realizing their dreams. So I see myself in her, and I wasn't planning on crying," she sentimentally remarks.
She attempts to choke back her tears as she continues to speak and acknowledges how attendees at the D23 Expo have expressed their gratitude. The people of New Orleans have also thanked her for building Princess Tiana's Bayou Adventure. "It's one of those realizations that it's so much bigger than me or anybody on the team to be a part of it; it's an honor," she weeps as her voice trails off, engulfed in an overwhelmingly gentle appreciation.
Within a few moments, as she returns to a tranquil composure, she addresses the concern about how the lack of representation on television and film has affected minorities, "We've learned to self-impose ourselves on the heroes that we face. I would see Wonder Woman and be able to self-impose, but it's not the same. When you look and say they look like me it's all the difference in the world. It's just so amazing that the Disney company is, in my mind leading right now, making sure that we have representation across the board. I think the impact that will have on our society and on young people we can't even imagine at this juncture, what the impact that will have on the future," she powerfully states."
www.forbes.com
*Edited to add paragraph at the beginning that did not copy over
"Before the pandemic turned the world upside down, the Mickey and Minnie attraction was open for nine days. A few months later, the then President of Walt Disney Imagineering, Bob Weis, contacted Carter and told her that "we are bringing Princess Tiana to both Magic Kingdom and Disneyland, and we would like you to be the producer," she disclosed as tears flooded her face. She communicates that her creative journey as an Imagineer was only just unfolding.
The preliminary conceptualizations by Blue Sky fueled the current ideas that helped to complete Princess Tiana's Bayou Adventure attraction. Carter's team is presently solidifying the script for the ride, which is the synergistic phase, "People get together in a room, [with] a board, [and] start throwing stuff on the board, pin it up, and have a conversation, and you read people's body language."
However, the pandemic halted in-person creative interaction, and the group had to rely on Zoom calls to continue constructing the project. Carter worked with Carmen Smith, Senior Vice President, and Executive Creative Development Product/Content and Inclusive Strategies for Disney Parks, Experiences, and Products; she made sure to supply the teams with connections, knowledge, and the necessary tools to work on the design. Since the employees could not travel to New Orleans, Louisiana, where Princess Tiana's story takes place, one of their colleagues who worked in New Orleans provided the team members with virtual tours of the location by using her iPhone on a gimbal.
"We're getting ready to go into our production phase where we start building stuff, then next we'll be at a point where we start installing. We will have previews for our guests, cut that ribbon, and then we get to be opened up to the world," Carter promises of the ride that will be available to the public in late 2024.
When the animated film "Princess and The Frog" premiered in 2009, it was met with jubilation. "Finally, here is something that all little girls, especially young black girls, can embrace," Cori Murray, the then entertainment director at Essence magazine, said to CNN. The first Disney-animated African American princess impacted young girls to women who finally had the chance to see themselves reflected in a cherished art form.
Carter recollects, outfitted in a green dress, going to a fundraiser at a museum in New Orleans that selected Princess Tiana as the theme with a group of Imagineers. "There was a sense of inspiration and pride in seeing that, but I remember going to this particular ball, and the majority of the African-American people there were serving. They were either in the kitchen or doing various things. I remember walking in with my dress on, and one of the waiters asked, 'Do you have a minute?' I'm going to cry when I tell the story," Carter becomes visibly emotional as her voice shakes and eyes well up with tears as she retells the poignant story.
"And I said, 'Sure.' I walked back toward the back, and they had all lined up and started clapping. They shared what Tiana meant to them and what it meant for me to be at that ball. Tiana inspires me because she represents a woman who looks like me, has a dream, works very hard, and won't take no for an answer; she overcame and then wanted to turn back and make sure that everybody else was healthy and whole in realizing their dreams. So I see myself in her, and I wasn't planning on crying," she sentimentally remarks.
She attempts to choke back her tears as she continues to speak and acknowledges how attendees at the D23 Expo have expressed their gratitude. The people of New Orleans have also thanked her for building Princess Tiana's Bayou Adventure. "It's one of those realizations that it's so much bigger than me or anybody on the team to be a part of it; it's an honor," she weeps as her voice trails off, engulfed in an overwhelmingly gentle appreciation.
Within a few moments, as she returns to a tranquil composure, she addresses the concern about how the lack of representation on television and film has affected minorities, "We've learned to self-impose ourselves on the heroes that we face. I would see Wonder Woman and be able to self-impose, but it's not the same. When you look and say they look like me it's all the difference in the world. It's just so amazing that the Disney company is, in my mind leading right now, making sure that we have representation across the board. I think the impact that will have on our society and on young people we can't even imagine at this juncture, what the impact that will have on the future," she powerfully states."
Meet Charita Carter, The First African-American Woman Executive Producer Of Walt Disney Imagineering
Before embarking on the pathway to an Imagineering career, Carter served as a senior accountant.
www.forbes.com
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She attempts to choke back her tears as she continues to speak and acknowledges how attendees at the D23 Expo have expressed their gratitude. The people of New Orleans have also thanked her for building Princess Tiana's Bayou Adventure.
The first part I can understand with fans, but the second seems like an exaggeration
The first part I can understand with fans, but the second seems like an exaggeration
Why would it be hard to accept that some people in New Orleans have expressed gratitude for the upcoming ride?
Disney Analyst
Well-Known Member
I'm going to guess...
Because any narrative deemed positive towards this attraction can only be... false?
No one on this planet can or would be excited, grateful, or interested in this attraction.
Of course it’s false. There’s no way a bunch of Disney fans from New Orleans would be excited about a ride set in New Orleans, themed to PatF, would be excited about this.I'm going to guess...
Because any narrative deemed positive towards this attraction can only be... false?
No one on this planet can or would be excited, grateful, or interested in this attraction.
Brer Panther
Well-Known Member
They really are hyping this up as though it's going to be the most inclusive racism-stopping ride ever, aren't they?
Like, I believe that they love Tiana and they want to do something great with/for her, but this whole thing feels so over the top and overblown that it honestly feels a bit suspicious on Disney's part.
Like, I believe that they love Tiana and they want to do something great with/for her, but this whole thing feels so over the top and overblown that it honestly feels a bit suspicious on Disney's part.
No, they’re not. Where did they say this would end racism?
You’re one to talk about others being overblown and over the top…
If my earlier post came off as doom and gloom, I apologize. To me, what it came off as they were trying to state that the entire city had given her some recognition for retheming Splash.
mickEblu
Well-Known Member
My brain just skipped over that entire paragraph trying to find a few words to latch onto.
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Disney Irish
Premium Member
Umm, just an FYI that isn't Disney talking in that sentence that is the reporter providing context for the story.
Here is that section broken down by who is talking:
Reporter context - The preliminary conceptualizations by Blue Sky fueled the current ideas that helped to complete Princess Tiana's Bayou Adventure attraction. Carter's team is presently solidifying the script for the ride, which is the synergistic phase
Disney quote - "People get together in a room, [with] a board, [and] start throwing stuff on the board, pin it up, and have a conversation, and you read people's body language."
This is why its good to actually read the actual article not what is copied here in the forum.
The assumption of broad generalization in meaning is both very common and normal.
If I said something like “Americans are suffering,” that doesn’t mean every single American is suffering.
Rich T
Well-Known Member
When it goes wrong, it sounds almost like satire. She could have just said something like, “The Tiana ride has progressed from Blue Sky concepts to final plan, and we’re now fine-tuning the script.” But she’s forced to use the approved buzz-words and non-committal terms *and* add in the entirety of the world’s most awkward attraction name… and the result comes across as corporate paid-by-the-syllable robospeak. It’s not her fault; I know it’s corporation PR language and she’s just doing her job.
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And… never mind, it turns out I misinterpreted the source and it was NOT the Disney rep who came up with that gem. I deleted my comment.
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Thanks, just noticed the paragraph before the photo in the article did not copy over - edited to include that to help with context! It's a well done, but very lengthy profile and was trying include just enough for the topic.
Rich T
Well-Known Member
Thank you for clearing that up. Deleted my comment.
I don’t believe the writer was forced to write like that. It’s quite possible that’s how they naturally write.
I don’t consider this “robospeak,” but we can agree to disagree.
Rich T
Well-Known Member
It was just that particular combination of buzzwords and the ride’s awkward name that hit me the wrong way. And, it turns out I misinterpreted the source of the statement, so I’ve deleted my original comment. Sorry about that; it’s just me grousing again.
Don’t apologize! We’re having a civil discourse. I’m not offended lol.
Same goes for @EagleScout610. You had nothing to apologize for.