Tiana's Bayou Adventure: Disneyland Watch & Discussion

Model3 McQueen

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In the Parks
No
I just picture all the positive-spin commercialism from Tiana's company leading up the ride itself, to then enter the cave after the first drop and see a bunch of animal animatronics slaving away miserably while Tiana's watching over them.

Great work Disney đź‘Ť
 

mickEblu

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Right now the view from the ride logs is a bunch of boulders and fallen trees.

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From the outside path:

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It looks like from the model that they will be raising up the rockwork between the path and ride which is a shame as it could have been a Blue Bayou experience of seeing the ride logs go by:

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But yeah, it will be less like falling into a briar patch and more like dropping into a hole in the ground.


I like that it the flume won’t be viewed from the Walkway for the sake of the rider. It’s the beginning of the ride, the stage is being set and I think for the rider to clearly see the walkway takes you out of the moment a little. I think it also takes a little bit away from seeing the logs dropping down. So it takes a little bit from the people walking by as well IMO.
 

Vegas Disney Fan

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It looks like from the model that they will be raising up the rockwork between the path and ride which is a shame as it could have been a Blue Bayou experience of seeing the ride logs go by:

This picture really highlights how much taking the tree off the top and adding greenery will transform the mountain into rolling hills, the water tower is the only thing we’ve seen I don’t like, and more specifically the lettering and the crown, if they just make it a normal water tower with a Tiana ad I think it will look fine.

I’ll be shocked if they spend money raising the rockwork along the path, very little return on investment for that, very unDisney.
 

yensidtlaw1969

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I thought this too until I saw the animatic of the area, especially at night. If they can pull it off it will be a nice area to float by at the beginning of the ride.



Right now the view from the ride logs is a bunch of boulders and fallen trees.

View attachment 665791

From the outside path:

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It looks like from the model that they will be raising up the rockwork between the path and ride which is a shame as it could have been a Blue Bayou experience of seeing the ride logs go by:

View attachment 665793

But yeah, it will be less like falling into a briar patch and more like dropping into a hole in the ground.

It doesn't look to me like the view from the path of the logs crossing in front will be meaningfully changed. Not sure what on the model makes you think the rockwork is being raised.

EDITED To Add: Just found this picture of the model that seems to suggest the logs will be as visible as ever to guests in front of the ride:

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chadwpalm

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In the Parks
No
It doesn't look to me like the view from the path of the logs crossing in front will be meaningfully changed. Not sure what on the model makes you think the rockwork is being raised.

EDITED To Add: Just found this picture of the model that seems to suggest the logs will be as visible as ever to guests in front of the ride:

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You may be right and it could just be the angle of the picture. It looked like the ridge I outlined in red was much higher than the water.

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Looking at it on Google maps, it looks as if it may just be the same as what is already there.

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Californian Elitist

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Original Poster
It's literally all faded and busted anyway.
Right.

People are having a REALLY hard time with this. “Keep the briar patch!” “They should leave the tree at the top!” Y’all, they are scrubbing away pretty much every bit of Splash, with the exception of the show building. They’re not keeping anything. LOL.
 

MisterPenguin

President of Animal Kingdom
Premium Member
Right.

People are having a REALLY hard time with this. “Keep the briar patch!” “They should leave the tree at the top!” Y’all, they are scrubbing away pretty much every bit of Splash, with the exception of the show building. They’re not keeping anything. LOL.
Also, is the mountain really necessary?...
 

chadwpalm

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In the Parks
No
The more videos I watch on YouTube, the more I'm convinced that the water tower is not there to be a weenie (or JUST to be a weenie), but to tighten up sight lines by blocking Tomorrowland from being seen from the upper flume level. Could be coincidental, but the location is literally perfect to do that. Guess we'll see when it's built.
 

Dear Prudence

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Right.

People are having a REALLY hard time with this. “Keep the briar patch!” “They should leave the tree at the top!” Y’all, they are scrubbing away pretty much every bit of Splash, with the exception of the show building. They’re not keeping anything. LOL.
I think they should add swamp and Bayou plants so it's not as open. The tree and the boat from the original concept art (with fireflies) was the only aspect I liked, so I was hoping for that. Fireflies would be a nice nod to other attractions in that land.
 

chadwpalm

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In the Parks
No
I think they should add swamp and Bayou plants so it's not as open. The tree and the boat from the original concept art (with fireflies) was the only aspect I liked, so I was hoping for that. Fireflies would be a nice nod to other attractions in that land.
Watch the video I posted on the previous page that shows the nighttime animatic a few times (around the 32-second mark). There are definitely fireflies....especially in the bushes. In fact, when the log goes down the drop watch the bushes where the briar patch used to be. It totally lights up. IDK if those are supposed to be fireflies too or just lights.
 

No Name

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The briar patch is part of Splash Mountain's story. Brer Rabbit is thrown into the briar patch because Brer Fox thinks it'll kill him, not knowing Brer Rabbit was raised in a briar patch and will be perfectly fine.

It is unlikely from a story standpoint that Mama Odie will be sending Tiana/Tiana's friends plummeting into a briar patch.
Obviously it doesn’t have to be a “briar patch” but they need something to keep the sense of danger and more importantly the cohesive setting, as opposed to a drop that just visually goes to below the bayou. I can’t imagine that making sense from a story standpoint. It’s not the end of the world but it’s an unfortunate consequence of retheming something.

I thought this too until I saw the animatic of the area, especially at night. If they can pull it off it will be a nice area to float by at the beginning of the ride.



Right now the view from the ride logs is a bunch of boulders and fallen trees.

View attachment 665791

From the outside path:

View attachment 665792

It looks like from the model that they will be raising up the rockwork between the path and ride which is a shame as it could have been a Blue Bayou experience of seeing the ride logs go by:

View attachment 665793

But yeah, it will be less like falling into a briar patch and more like dropping into a hole in the ground.

Rivers/waterfalls tend to end in a large body of water rather than below it! I’m interested to see how they work it into the story on-ride but can’t imagine it being as strong as the previous setup. We shall see.
 
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No Name

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Right.

People are having a REALLY hard time with this. “Keep the briar patch!” “They should leave the tree at the top!” Y’all, they are scrubbing away pretty much every bit of Splash, with the exception of the show building. They’re not keeping anything. LOL.
Well that’s flat out wrong… they’re keeping almost the entire exterior the same, the shed and waterwheel are directly left over, nevermind all of the rockwork, etc. A lot more than the show building lol.
 

Californian Elitist

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Original Poster
Well that’s flat out wrong… they’re keeping almost the entire exterior the same, the shed and waterwheel are directly left over, nevermind all of the rockwork, etc. A lot more than the show building lol.
And yet none of those things don’t have any significant link to Splash itself. It’s not going to be Splash Mountain, which is my point. We can look at this list and they don’t add much to the actual ride. Keep the shed and it still won’t be Splash.

I was referring to elements of the ride that are directly linked to Splash, the ride itself and the story itself. That stuff is going and Disney has every intention to remove any bit of SotS/Splash left. Therefore, hoping for the briar patch, something directly taken from the movie and linked to the ride, or the tree, something also directly taken from SotS and linked to the ride, is more than likely a hopeless effort.
 

No Name

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It’s not going to be Splash Mountain, which is my point. We can look at this list and they don’t add much to the actual ride. Keep the shed and it still won’t be Splash.

I was referring to elements of the ride that are directly linked to Splash, the ride itself and the story itself. That stuff is going and Disney has every intention to remove any bit of SotS/Splash left. Therefore, hoping for the briar patch, something directly taken from the movie and linked to the ride, or the tree, something also directly taken from SotS and linked to the ride, is more than likely a hopeless effort.
On that note, my point about the patch of thorns has nothing to do with the fact that it’s from Splash. Also FYI, I think most/all of the discussion around the “tree” has been referring to the big one we saw in the concept art which is now missing, not the little stubby one there now. And I’m a fan of it gone.
 

Californian Elitist

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On that note, my point about the patch of thorns has nothing to do with the fact that it’s from Splash. Also FYI, I think most/all of the discussion around the “tree” has been referring to the big one we saw in the concept art which is now missing, not the little stubby one there now. And I’m a fan of it gone.
I saw a comment from someone (don’t know which thread it was in) where they hoped that the tree, the one from SotS/Splash, would remain.

What is your point about the patch of thorns?
 

Dr.Cheeto

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I saw a comment from someone (don’t know which thread it was in) where they hoped that the tree, the one from SotS/Splash, would remain.

What is your point about the patch of thorns?
I said that, only to pose a question. If the Splash structure couldn’t support the weight of the concept art with the boat in the (much larger) tree, why couldn’t they repurpose the current small Splash tree, add a boat to it that matches the scale, some moss, hanging bottles, etc? I just thought having something on top of the mountain looks better than nothing at all. I only suggested it because, you know, this is a retheme and most of the structure of the ride is remaining the same, with new set dressing, etc.

I love the concept of this retheme, but I understand why the model reveal is getting mixed reactions. Its interesting that so many fans online imagined that the Dr. Facilier song would replace the vultures on the lift hill of the climax. That feels like an honest acceptance to the idea of updating the ride, while keeping the basic elements that made Splash enjoyable for some people (ex: fun songs at the beginning of the ride, scary song at the climax, fun song at the end).
Changing the basic formula too much is like learning your favorite diner is adding avocado and spinach to their classic breakfast scramble, and will have a new name on the menu. Not a big deal, and it actually sounds like it will be tastier than the original! Then you order it and discover half way thru making it, the diner decided scrambled eggs were no longer a good fit for the dish, so the chef removed them from the recipe, and replaced them with cottage cheese, making it it’s own new thing. Now if I’m ever hungry for a filling breakfast and craving scrambled eggs, I might have to pick another item from the menu, or find a new diner.
 

No Name

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What is your point about the patch of thorns?
My point is that, without the patch of thorns or something in its place, it doesn’t really make sense when you look at the front of the ride. There’s logs just disappearing into a waterway that goes below the bayou? Previously it was supposed to look like the drop actually lead to the bayou but the logs got caught in the thorns, hence why they disappear.


I get why they don’t want to keep the thorns and why it wouldn’t even make great sense to keep them (heck Florida’s are kinda ugly) but I think it’s an example of how they naturally lose some quality when they have to come up with a new story for a purpose-built ride.
 

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