No. The poster was reiterating something that they had heard from others and simply brought it up because it was relevant to something another person brought up. They never claimed to believe it.
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Tiana's Bayou Adventure: Disneyland Watch & Discussion
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Midwest Elitist
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A lot of interesting discussion. I will reply later cause I don't think 30 mins is long enough to write one 
Dear Prudence
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Splash Mountain reopens on the 8th! 
Mac Tonight
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What's interesting to me... as this discussion has clearly grown legs and wandered off into it's own world... is that everyone who has "issues" with SotS and everything surrounding it... STILL ENJOYS SPLASH MOUNTAIN.
That's what you call ironic.
Carry on.
That's what you call ironic.
Carry on.
It’s not very ironic, since the issues from the movie aren’t in the ride.
Mac Tonight
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And yet... isn't that the very reason it's being re-themed? Haven't we just spent the last 233 pages discussing why the attraction, due to it's ties to the source material, has now been deemed "problematic" and therefore this re-theme is in the best interest of everyone???
Dear Prudence
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#FBF I wore this VHS into the ground. I am gonna miss this a whole lot. 
Dear Prudence
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Here is some more rare footage! I forgot about the way the original donkey cart looked!
Some people have been saying that. Still not ironic that people don’t have a problem with Splash Mountain, a ride that is not exactly the same as SotS.
CaptinEO
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The makers of the film even saw fit to thank the Turpan Municipal Bureau of Public Security, which the U.S. Commerce Department last October placed on its Entity List for engaging in "human rights violations and abuses in the implementation of China's campaign of repression, mass arbitrary detention, and high-technology surveillance against Uighurs, Kazakhs, and other members of Muslim minority groups in the XUAR."
Medium journalist Shawn Zhang, who claims to have mapped out the numerous camps in Xinjiang, wrote that if the "Mulan" film crew landed at the Turpan airport and traveled along highway G312 to the Shanshan Desert, "They could see at least seven re-education camps." Zhang told Taiwan News that "Re-education Camp No. 87" is located in Shanshan County a mere seven kilometers away from where the Shanshan Desert scenes were shot.
The entire province they filmed in is zoned for concentration camps and prisons.
Sounds like a great company. You want to keep defending them?
Really? What does it mean then when you build a themepark and give the Chinese government a 50% stake in the park?
Half of every dollar spent in Disney Shanghai go straight to the Chinese government.
The mere fact they made a large business deal with the Chinese government shows they have zero concern over their human rights issues.
What does it mean when you use practical slave labor from the country to make your products.
Yep this is my point, every global mega corp that has dealings in China have sold out to the point of losing their ethics.
Once you become so big that you start selling out to dictators to make money of their citizens, you have no morals left.
Corporations sell their souls to the human rights nightmare of China because they get 1 Billion new customers.
There's a point to draw the line and stop being a global megacorp.
But when you exist to ONLY make more money with NO ethics or care/concern, you get the situation we're in now, where companies are pleasing a dictatorship country that doesn't value free speech, democracy, or human life.
That's true. It's a sad state of affairs. I'm not trying to single out Disney, every HUGE company has lost their morals to sell out to China it seems. It's not only Disney. All these companies are to blame as is our country for relying so much on Chinese labor.
We as individuals can't even buy things in stores that aren't made under poor conditions in 3rd world countries.
CaptinEO
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Human rights groups accuse China supplier of Disney products of worker abuses as Shanghai theme park opens
SHANGHAI (Bloomberg) - Two rights groups have released reports that allege poor working conditions at Chinese suppliers making toys and accessories licensed by Walt Disney Co., as the world's largest entertainment company faces heightened scrutiny days before its first theme park in mainland...
Disney Is Trying to 'Woke-wash' its Complicity in China's Abuses
By censoring and banning its films under the guise of diversity and inclusion, Disney hopes that it can "woke-wash" its complicity in the human rights abuses committed by the CCP.
www.newsweek.com
How China Won the Keys to Disney’s Magic Kingdom (Published 2016)
Plans for the $5.5 billion Shanghai Disney Resort, which opens Thursday, were in limbo until Disney dialed back its demands to the Communist Party.
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Disney Irish
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Its not even about defending them, it was just pointing out that your statement that they filmed IN a concentration camp as incorrect. Did they choose a bad location, 100%.The makers of the film even saw fit to thank the Turpan Municipal Bureau of Public Security, which the U.S. Commerce Department last October placed on its Entity List for engaging in "human rights violations and abuses in the implementation of China's campaign of repression, mass arbitrary detention, and high-technology surveillance against Uighurs, Kazakhs, and other members of Muslim minority groups in the XUAR."
Medium journalist Shawn Zhang, who claims to have mapped out the numerous camps in Xinjiang, wrote that if the "Mulan" film crew landed at the Turpan airport and traveled along highway G312 to the Shanshan Desert, "They could see at least seven re-education camps." Zhang told Taiwan News that "Re-education Camp No. 87" is located in Shanshan County a mere seven kilometers away from where the Shanshan Desert scenes were shot.
The entire province they filmed in is zoned for concentration camps and prisons.
Sounds like a great company. You want to keep defending them?
And what about HKDL? That was built prior to Iger and Chapek, and was under Chinese rule and has a similar ownership stake as Shanghai.
Or what about all the consumer products produced over the last 50 years, long before Eisner, Iger, or Chapek, that came from China?
This isn't even about mega corporations. Almost every aspect of modern life touches China in some way. Every dollar you earn or spend, part of it comes from or goes to Chinese investors in some direct or indirect way, and some goes to pay taxes some of which goes to China as they hold US debt. Should I condemn you for not taking a stand and not accepting any sort of living or that you pay taxes because some of it comes from or goes to China?
We are more intertwined globally than most of us realize. We have direct or indirect relations with almost every country in the world. So unless you are planning on completely going off the grid and living the Amish life you too are just as culpable as Disney. We can't just point the finger at mega corporations and say they are responsible, when its all of us.
Dear Prudence
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Wait til y'all find put about what the US does 
PiratesMansion
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No Ur WrOnG b/c AmErIcA iS tHe BeSt CoUnTrY tHaT's NeVeR dOnE aNyThInG wRoNg I kNo ThIs In My HeArT sO iT mUsT bE tRuE!!11111Wait til y'all find put about what the US does
Dear Prudence
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*laughs awkwardly in Native American*
Mac Tonight
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OK.
After some thought and consideration, I’ve decided to see myself out of this thread.
Y’all be nice to each other!
After some thought and consideration, I’ve decided to see myself out of this thread.
Y’all be nice to each other!
Bye-bye!
Dear Prudence
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I am gonna miss this so much
I wish more people on these threads and just in general would recognize that it's okay to have complicated and conflicted emotions about things. More than one emotion, and more than one truth can exist at the same time. There's a reason why it's lasted over 30 years, it really captures something special.
I wish more people on these threads and just in general would recognize that it's okay to have complicated and conflicted emotions about things. More than one emotion, and more than one truth can exist at the same time. There's a reason why it's lasted over 30 years, it really captures something special.
Brer Panther
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Anyone else willing to bet that the Facilier shadow that's apparently going to replace Brer Fox's shadow is going to be animated in really bad Adobe flash or something?