Tiana's Bayou Adventure: Disneyland Watch & Discussion

[Rich T]

The rethemed ride is going to be the exact same track layout with the same drops. The music will be different, but excellent.

Will the new AAs be better than the current ones? Maybe.

Will the new story be told more coherently than the current one? Hard to imagine it being worse.

Will the logs still navigate the course clumsily, climb the lifts more clunkily and inelegantly than any other flume ride on Earth and soak riders more than ever intended? Probably.

Will it be more popular than ever? I think so.

 

[EagleScout610]

The rethemed ride is going to be the exact same track layout with the same drops. The music will be different, but excellent.

Will the new AAs be better than the current ones? Maybe.

Will the new story be told more coherently than the current one? Hard to imagine it being worse.

Will the logs still navigate the course clumsily, climb the lifts more clunkily and inelegantly than any other flume ride on Earth and soak riders more than ever intended? Probably.

Will it be more popular than ever? I think so.

I highly doubt the ends will justify the means here. They're gonna have to pull out all the stops to truly top Splash

 

[Californian Elitist]

The chances of Disney pulling this PatF project off with fantastic results are probably slim to none, especially if we consider recent projects, which have been mostly trash.

 

[EagleScout610]

Ummm Brer Fox...are you ok? You look a little ragged here

 

[Rich T]

I highly doubt the ends will justify the means here. They're gonna have to pull out all the stops to truly top Splash

I think it will justify the effort simply by removing a ginormous Song of the South shrine from Disneyland.

When it comes right down to it, there isn’t that much they have to do to equal or top Old Splash. The layout’s the same. Old Splash’s AAs aren’t particularly impressive. Most of the staging and attempts at telling a story on Old Splash are... very flawed.

Old Splash has nice art direction, and since PatF is a beautiful-looking film, I’m not worried there.

The music will be hard to top, but PatF’s strong, catchy song score is about as great a replacement as anyone could hope for. And, as has been demonstrated on Youtube, it fits Splash’s layout wonderfully.

So, the makings of a fantastic retheme are all there. I’m confident they won’t make it stupid...

But...

...I was *more* confident before I saw what they did to Snow White’s Scary Adventures...

 

[Kate F]

Cut out the loud noise (from both ends) that is driven by the twitter crowds. The attraction is innocuous and pleasant. The material is appropriated and Disney is embarrassed by it.

Both can be wholly true. The problem isn't the fan base (well, outside of the Twitter extremists and the equally nasty Extreme Disney Fandom). The problem is every step of the way Disney has mishandled this. They shouldn't have made the movie at the time. They certainly should have known better by the late 80's that there were major problems with the film. They also shouldn't have hidden away their embarrassment and made it taboo.

Finally, they shouldn't have made a ride out of such problematic material. Further merchandising and promoting something that they wanted to hide away. And quite a good ride at that. But they did - and it was a great ride and not at all racist as its own entity. But the material still was. The songs weren't, but they are also attached to a film that was.

It's all a messy situation of their own making. Love the ride, be mad at Disney for trojan horsing in such problematic material by "Disneyfying" or sanitizing their past transgressions.

We can talk “woulda, coulda, shoulda” all day, the attraction became a hit despite everything and it lasted three decades. It was basically a redemption story.

The rethemed ride is going to be the exact same track layout with the same drops. The music will be different, but excellent.

Will the new AAs be better than the current ones? Maybe.

Will the new story be told more coherently than the current one? Hard to imagine it being worse.

Will the logs still navigate the course clumsily, climb the lifts more clunkily and inelegantly than any other flume ride on Earth and soak riders more than ever intended? Probably.

Will it be more popular than ever? I think so.

Just for the record, you’re only saying this for Cali’s right?

 

[EagleScout610]

We can talk “woulda, coulda, shoulda” all day, the attraction became a hit despite everything and it lasted three decades. It was basically a redemption story.

Just for the record, you’re only saying this for Cali’s right?

It would be the same layout/drops for Orlando too technically. I don't see them spending extra to realign the flume

 

[ᗩLᘿᑕ ✨ ᗩζᗩᗰ]

What's the over/under on this having less than a half dozen AAs when it's all said and done?

 

[George Lucas on a Bench]

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Ummm Brer Fox...are you ok? You look a little ragged here

He's got a gun!

 

[EagleScout610]

What's the over/under on this having less than a half dozen AAs when it's all said and done?

I think it was said we'd be losing a considerable number of America Sings bots

 

[Rich T]

Just for the record, you’re only saying this for Cali’s right?

Yes, especially regarding the storytelling and ride system. The WDW and Tokyo versions corrected the problems. DL’s Splash is one of the clunkiest flume rides ever built in a major park; all the mechanical issues that delayed its opening by several months still keep it from feeling polished. The stupid, clunky way the logs crest that final hill always astonishes me. I’ve been on portable carny coasters that felt smoother.

 

[Brer Panther]

I'm just gonna paraphrase what somebody in the "Save Splash Mountain" group on Facebook said here... Splash Mountain is not about honoring or promoting Song of the South in any way. Splash Mountain is about taking a movie that has both positive and negative aspects and getting rid of all the negative/racist aspects so the animated characters can be enjoyed by people of all races and continue to evolve and change with the times without being burdened and held back by the negative and racist aspects of Song of the South. We should not be trying to use things from the movie that were purposely not put in the ride as justification for the ride's removal. Blacks are obviously not hive-minded but most asked are indifferent and don't care about Splash Mountain. The majority are not pro- or anti-retheme.

View attachment 559448Ummm Brer Fox...are you ok? You look a little ragged here

Disneyland's Brer Fox animatronics have always looked a bit off to me. If nothing else, can't they swap out the white hair for brownish-red hair like the rest of his body?

 

[EagleScout610]

Yes, especially regarding the storytelling and ride system. The WDW and Tokyo versions corrected the problems. DL’s Splash is one of the clunkiest flume rides ever built in a major park; all the mechanical issues that delayed its opening by several months still keep it from feeling polished. The stupid, clunky way the logs crest that final hill always astonishes me. I’ve been on portable carny coasters that felt smoother.

That was probably an added incentive to remodel California's. Completely overhaul the flume.

 

[Animaniac93-98]

...I was *more* confident before I saw what they did to Snow White’s Scary Adventures...

Snow White's Enchanted Wish, Frozen Ever After and BatB in Tokyo seem to set a precedent regarding newer Princess rides.

I expect little to no "scary" parts or scenes with the villain. I expect some nice AAs, but mostly barren sets. I expect clumsy projection effects, some taken directly from the movie, to be projected on the walls. I also expect the staging of the scenes and general plot to be at best a bit incoherent.

All the recognizable aspects of the movie will be present, but the whole thing will look like what it is; a round peg shoved into a square hole.

 

[George Lucas on a Bench]

All the recognizable aspects of the movie will be present, but the whole thing will look like what it is; a round peg shoved into a square hole.

We gotta find a way to make this fit into the hole for this usin' nothin' but that.

 

[mickEblu]

Had a great time riding Splash Mountain with my son today. We’ll be riding a few more times tomorrow. If he lets me. Wasn’t thrilled with the drop. I’ll really miss this ride. It’s sad though, I rode it right after HM which looks better than it has in years. Riding Splash right after HM made it look even more rough. But As long as that music is still playing it’s always a great ride for me.

 

[SuddenStorm]

Had a great time riding Splash Mountain with my son today. We’ll be riding a few more times tomorrow. If he lets me. Wasn’t thrilled with the drop. I’ll really miss this ride. It’s sad though, I rode it right after HM which looks better than it has in years. Riding Splash right after HM made it look even more rough. But As long as that music is still playing it’s always a great ride for me.

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Looks like y'all are having an amazing trip! So awesome!

 

[mickEblu]

Looks like y'all are having an amazing trip! So awesome!

Thanks my man! It was a great day. Very glad we didn’t cancel. Hope tomorrow is the same. We have a few big ones we didn’t hit today but I’d rather just have a great time than run around checking rides off a checklist.

 

[SuddenStorm]

Thanks my man! It was a great day. Very glad we didn’t cancel. Hope tomorrow is the same. We have a few big ones we didn’t hit today but I’d rather just have a great time than run around checking rides off a checklist.

How was it going back after all this time?

My friends and I are eyeing late June/July to go. I feel like if I wait a bit longer it'll be closer to the Disneyland from the before times, and that's really appealing to me.

If I lived within two hours of the place I'd have gone multiple times already.

 

[mickEblu]

How was it going back after all this time?

My friends and I are eyeing late June/July to go. I feel like if I wait a bit longer it'll be closer to the Disneyland from the before times, and that's really appealing to me.

If I lived within two hours of the place I'd have gone multiple times already.

Felt great! Didn’t get emotional or anything like that. But it was just a nice feeling to be back. Kind of wished I would have been present a little more but that’s hard when with 3 young kids sometimes and when you’re sharing all day on WDW magic haha. Park felt nice And light except for the usual areas like the Fantasyland courtyard but even then it wasn’t all day.

I’m sure you ll have a great time whenever you go. By then the mask requirement should hopefully be gone at least outdoors. Speaking of make it wasn’t that bad. I mean the weather helped with that but I took it off on all the rides and had no problems. Don’t kill me anyone but I pretty much had it underneath my nose for half the day on and off not including food breaks. Pretty much only had it on when a CM was passing by or when we were entering a high traffic area. Also got pretty lucky with finding tables too. All of the tables were pretty taken everywhere but someone would always get up just when we needed one. Beware of mobile ordering though. Hopefully that gets better before you go. A lot of things have to be ordered well in advance. Not the end of the world but it’s annoying to have to plan one more thing in your day. Especially when you already have virtual queue return times, you’re park hopping and not everyone in your party wants to eat the same thing.