Things we (really) care about

Curious Constance

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Are there any Disney attractions that you would boycott the resort, if not the whole company, if it/they were removed?
The idea of boycotting Disneyland is an odd one to me. If the parks end up not being fun to me at some point in the future, I'll quit going but not because of any attitude that I'm disgusted that they dare not cater to my every whim. I'll simply move on to something else. I save boycotting for truly deserving instances. Like companies being actively anti gay or racist. Not because Disneyland chose to go a way I'm not happy with.
 

Californian Elitist

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The idea of boycotting Disneyland is an odd one to me. If the parks end up not being fun to me at some point in the future, I'll quit going but not because of any attitude that I'm disgusted that they dare not cater to my every whim. I'll simply move on to something else. I save boycotting for truly deserving instances. Like companies being actively anti gay or racist. Not because Disneyland chose to go a way I'm not happy with.

This is the thing, some things are more important to others. You say you save boycotting for things that "actually matter," such as anti-gay corporations. Well, some people may not find stuff like that important and may not consider it as something that matters. So if you boycotted an anti-gay corporation, and someone told you you were being over the top and were being ridiculous, how would you feel?

There are some of us who are VERY passionate about Disneyland, and would potentially boycott a decision we didn't like. You may not get or understand that, which is fine, but please, don't tell us it doesn't matter or we're being over the top. It's something we care about.

Some people are willing to die for things, like the Oregonians who spent well over a month on that reserve with their guns. I'm not saying I'd die for Disneyland, but I'm sure you get the point.
 

Donaldfan1934

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The idea of boycotting Disneyland is an odd one to me. If the parks end up not being fun to me at some point in the future, I'll quit going but not because of any attitude that I'm disgusted that they dare not cater to my every whim. I'll simply move on to something else. I save boycotting for truly deserving instances. Like companies being actively anti gay or racist. Not because Disneyland chose to go a way I'm not happy with.
Come on now, you have to have a to have a few attracttions that you think are just as integral to the park as the castle and Main Street. Don't tell me that if they closed one of your most favorite parts of the park that you'd be up and ready for going again despite a HUGE chunk of what made that park that park is forever lost. And please don't compare it to civil rights issues. Not to get political, but I'm sure that a majority of large corporations wouldn't be caught dead being racist or homophobic in 2016, especially ones as large as Disney. The media would tear their image apart an they would most likely go bankrupt from all of the bad press.
 
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Californian Elitist

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Come on now, you have to have a to have a few attracttions that you think are just as integral to the park as the castle and Main Street. Don't tell me that if they closed one of your most favorite parts of the park that you'd be up and ready for going again despite a HUGE chunk of what made that park that park is forever lost. And please don't compare it to civil rights issues. Not to get political, but I'm sure that a majority of large corporations wouldn't be caught dead being racist or homophobic in 2016, especially ones as large as Disney. The media would tear their image apart an they would most likely go bankrupt from all of the bad press.

Some people really just aren't as passionate about the park, which is fine. Then there are those of us like you and myself, who are just the opposite. I have a friend who would rather see Disneyland officially closed than witness dramatic changes that alter the park's concept or operation in any way.
 

Curious Constance

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Come on now, you have to have a to have a few attracttions that you think are just as integral to the park as the castle and Main Street. Don't tell me that if they closed one of your most favorite parts of the park that you'd be up and ready for going again despite a HUGE chunk of what made that park that park is forever lost. And please don't compare it to civil rights issues. Not to get political, but I'm sure that a majority of large corporations wouldn't be caught dead being racist or homophobic in 2016. The media would tear their image apart an they would most likely go bankrupt from all of the bad press.
I don't know how else to state this. I love Disneyland, I take my family as often as I can. I am interested in its history as well as its future. I spend a crazy amount of my free time reading and chatting about Disney. BUT, I also have the logical part of my brain. And it reminds me that Disney is a company, and they are going to base decisions for business needs, and that's just how it works. While I may be upset by a change, I'm not going to take it personally and storm the castle. (Pun intended). I can pretty much assure you I'll never become tired of the place, I LOVE it! But I'm still a realist, and can't understand how people can't see reality for what it is.
 
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To say that this thread is an eye opener to just how deep some people's Disneyland mania goes would be an understatement. What I'm reading is fascinating, but fanatical to the extreme and slightly terrifying. I had no idea there was a corner of Disneyland fandom that was this over the top with their passion.
 

Donaldfan1934

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I don't know how else to state this. I love Disneyland, I take my family as often as I can. I am interested in its history as well as its future. I spend a crazy amount of my free time reading and chatting about Disney. BUT, I also have the logical part of my brain. And it reminds me that Disney is a company, and they are going to base decisions for business needs, and that's just how it works. While I may be upset by a change, I'm not going to take it personally and storm the castle. (Pun intended). I can pretty much assure you I'll never become tired of the place, I LOVE it! But I'm still a realist, and can't understand how people can't see reality for what it is.
I understand that Disney is a business and that they have the choice to either maintain the spirit of the park ot take it away. I also understand that you may not mind most changes as much as I would. But as I stated, Disney theoretically has the ability to tear down and replace everything in the park if they want to. My question was 100% theoretical. Would you still want to go to Disneyland if they replaced EVERY land and EVERY attraction with an entirely new park? As open as you are to change, I don't think you would. I don't think anyone would love the stuff that they love if they took what made them love it away. Everyone would have a different point where they would break.
 

Curious Constance

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Some people really just aren't as passionate about the park, which is fine. Then there are those of us like you and myself, who are just the opposite. I have a friend who would rather see Disneyland officially closed than witness dramatic changes that alter the park's concept or operation in any way.
You keep saying this. You act like you're the pinnacle of some sort of supreme Disney fan, and anyone who doesn't agree with your extremist view points, just doesn't measure up to your level of ultimate fandom. I think it's just another example of a very entitled attitude. Having perspective and the ability to think logically when necessary regardless of your emotional investment is actually a positive attribute.
 
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Don't tell me that if they closed one of your most favorite parts of the park that you'd be up and ready for going again despite a HUGE chunk of what made that park that park is forever lost.

I realize this wasn't directed at me, but it got me to thinking about an aspect of Disneyland that has been lost over the years, and that is the sense that you were visiting a place that was special and unique in all the world. A place filled with optimism where anything was possible, where years sometimes passed between visits.

That Disneyland began to fade away when admission prices were hiked through the roof and low cost annual passes were introduced. Locals have turned the parks into exclusive country clubs, ensuring that the place is pretty much always unbearably crowded except certain strategic weeks during the year.

I haven't boycotted, but my visits have become less frequent, and not because of anything significant that Disney has added or taken away, but because I feel it's overpriced and I sometimes have the sensation of intruding into someone's private dinner party when I there.
 
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Curious Constance

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I understand that Disney is a business and that they have the choice to either maintain the spirit of the park ot take it away. I also understand that you may not mind most changes as much as I would. But as I stated, Disney theoretically has the ability to tear down and replace everything in the park if they want to. My question was 100% theoretical. Would you still want to go to Disneyland if they replaced EVERY land and EVERY attraction with an entirely new park? As open as you are to change, I don't think you would. I don't think anyone would love the stuff that they love if they took what made them love it away. Everyone would have a different point where they would break.
My heart would break if they were to tear down the park. Is that what you want to hear? Of course it would. But as to whether I would visit the new park, I have no idea. It would depend on what it was like.
 
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No one here implied that it did.

No, they flat out said it:

This is the thing, some things are more important to others. You say you save boycotting for things that "actually matter," such as anti-gay corporations. Well, some people may not find stuff like that important and may not consider it as something that matters....

There are some of us who are VERY passionate about Disneyland, and would potentially boycott a decision we didn't like. You may not get or understand that, which is fine, but please, don't tell us it doesn't matter or we're being over the top. It's something we care about.
 

Californian Elitist

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You keep saying this. You act like you're the pinnacle of some sort of supreme Disney fan, and anyone who doesn't agree with your extremist view points, just doesn't measure up to your level of ultimate fandom. I think it's just another example of a very entitled attitude. Having perspective and the ability to think logically when necessary regardless of your emotional investment is actually a positive attribute.

And you're insensitive to the feelings of others. A few of us express our disappointment regarding the situation at River Belle, and you make a comment suggesting we just eat at Stage Door Cafe. Really?

Not sure what thinking logically has anything to do with the subject. I said it was fine you don't think the way I think, and now I'm an elitist. Okay.

Whether you want to admit it or not, there are different levels of fandom. There are casual fans and what people call "super-fans." Be honest, based on the conversations we've had, would you say I'm an extremist, that I take things seriously? Some of us are obviously passionate super-fans, and if you feel that makes me seem entitled, then oh, well. I refuse to apologize for the way I feel towards the park. If you think I'm entitled, go ahead and use that ignore option, as I'm not going to stop making comments regarding how I feel towards the subject, whether they come off as extremist or not.
 

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