Things we (really) care about

Californian Elitist

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I mostly care about Disneyland NOT losing its soul and becoming Six Flags with Disney Characters. There's so much about DL that gives it heart: the little details, the unplanned, casual character encounters that come out of nowhere, 60 years of history...the weird, wonderful layout of the place and the organic manner it ended up that way. Things that exist not because they generate a lot of income or press...but simply because they're wonderful. The live music. The veteran cast members. The horses on Main Street (you just KNOW someone in a cubicle is trying to find a way to get rid of them without causing a scene). On and on...so much to love!

Most of all, I want Fantasyland and all of its dark rides--and Storybook Land--to be left alone aside from tech upgrades. It's the heart and soul of Disneyland that really connects all generations of fans together. And for Heaven's sake, keep Mr. Toad; it's the weird eccentric uncle of the park, and a fantastic heap of dark weirdness that gives Fantasyland a needed bit of "What the--" :)

Amen.
 

Californian Elitist

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It's my son and daughter's favorite ride. I've been holding them into the log, keeping them from flying out since they were wee tots, lol.

That's really nice. You've created memories with Splash, and just because I don't enjoy the ride and don't like it in general, I would never tell you to get over it or tell you to stop overreacting if Disney ever replaced it, because you enjoy it and have connected with it.

We all have things in the park we personally connect with.
 

Donaldfan1934

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"Of course this makes good business sense, but Universal has a better reason for doing this: they are just much nicer than Disney. They are a company that doesn’t care about money, unlike the greedy and power-hungry Disney, who charges $4 more for a one-day park pass than Universal. Now Disney, as usual, will have to scramble to keep up with Universal, a park whose innovation and charm and beauty and customer service have been better than Disney since Our Beloved Walt passed on from this earthly plane. Universal should be congratulated for essentially letting guests into their parks for free, while Disney continues to gouge their customers because they legitimately hate guests."

*giggle*
Giggle is right. Universal is probably 10x greedier than Disney from a purely theme park stand point and that says a lot. Although Star Wars land at DL could signal A potentially different path, Disney has tried to preserve the core elements of its parks. Meanwhile, Universal has far weaker service on average, closes and replaces every ride like they're yesterday's trash, and fill their parks with cheesy money grabs like carnival games. While both theme park companies have good and bad elements, it does bug me a bit when people try to compare the two when they're really their own things. This is partially because Universal obviously wants to be seen as full on competition. While they have had a few great attractions, I strongly disagree that they can truly compete. In my mind, there's Disney on one end of the spectrum and there's Six Flags on the other. Universal is a park that sees far more investment and theming than Six Flags, but is far less classy and sincere than Disney. But that's just my two cent on the matter.
 
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Donaldfan1934

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That's really nice. You've created memories with Splash, and just because I don't enjoy the ride and don't like it in general, I would never tell you to get over it or tell you to stop overreacting if Disney ever replaced it, because you enjoy it and have connected with it.

We all have things in the park we personally connect with.
What do you have against Splash Mountain? I'm not judging you, I'm just curious.
 
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Curious Constance

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That's really nice. You've created memories with Splash, and just because I don't enjoy the ride and don't like it in general, I would never tell you to get over it or tell you to stop overreacting if Disney ever replaced it, because you enjoy it and have connected with it.

We all have things in the park we personally connect with.

I can't quite get my point across correctly. I never said we don't all ahve things in the park we personally connect with. I would never tell you to not be upset about losing something you've connected with. It's the reaction that I can't understand. I would be really sad if Splash was removed. I would be. There's nothing wrong with that. What I can't wrap my brain around is the "How dare they remove something I personally cherish" mentality.
 

Californian Elitist

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What do you have against Splash Mountain?I'm not judging you, I'm just curious.

I just don't find the ride enjoyable, at all. I do like passing through it on the DLRR, however. I'm also not the biggest fan of Song of the South, which probably contributes to the way I feel about Splash.

It's for the birds.
 

Californian Elitist

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I can't quite get my point across correctly. I never said we don't all ahve things in the park we personally connect with. I would never tell you to not be upset about losing something you've connected with. It's the reaction that I can't understand. I would be really sad if Splash was removed. I would be. There's nothing wrong with that. What I can't wrap my brain around is the "How dare they remove something I personally cherish" mentality.

Is being upset about losing something not considered a reaction?

I don't have a "how dare they" mentality towards the removal of the pancakes/quick service from River Belle. I expressed disappointment.
 

Donaldfan1934

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I just don't find the ride enjoyable, at all. I do like passing through it on the DLRR, however. I'm also not the biggest fan of Song of the South, which probably contributes to the way I feel about Splash.

It's for the birds.
Understood. We all have different tastes even of some are more unconventional than most. I'm a HUGE fan of that ride so I was just curious about an opposite perspective on it.
 
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This is partially because Universal obviously wants to be seen as full on competition. While they have had a few great attractions, I strongly disagree that they can truly compete.

Try telling that to a Universal fan though. The only theme park fan more passionate than a Disney fan is a Universal fan.
 

dweezil78

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Is being upset about losing something not considered a reaction?

I don't have a "how dare they" mentality towards the removal of the pancakes/quick service from River Belle. I expressed disappointment.

I'llllllllllll just be leaving this here (sorry, it was one of the few reactions that I'll never forget from this forum!)

I am VERY upset, once again. Seriously, who is coming up with these atrocious ideas and plans? FIRE THEM!

I had a feeling they were going to pull one on us and turn River Belle into a table service location. I'm still disgusted.
 

Donaldfan1934

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Try telling that to a Universal fan though. The only theme park fan more passionate than a Disney fan is a Universal fan.
Hey, nothing wrong with loving Universal. I just think that Disney and Universal are almost two completely different things with different functions in their core design. Speaking for me personally, I can fully forget about the outside world at a Disney Park, while when I used to go to Universal, it was fun, but the resort never felt all that separate from other big attractions. In short, parts of it are well done, but it has no more soul than a large regional mall. That's my opinion, but good if UNI fans to continue enjoying what they enjoy if that's their cup of tea. I just don't get the "Disney has lost there way and UNI has does everything that they used to strive for 1,000,000x better than they ever did just because they built Harry Potter so I like them more now all of a sudden" subsection of the fan base.
 
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Donaldfan1934

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I can't quite get my point across correctly. I never said we don't all ahve things in the park we personally connect with. I would never tell you to not be upset about losing something you've connected with. It's the reaction that I can't understand. I would be really sad if Splash was removed. I would be. There's nothing wrong with that. What I can't wrap my brain around is the "How dare they remove something I personally cherish" mentality.
Are there any Disney attractions that you would boycott the resort, if not the whole company, if it/they were removed?
 

Californian Elitist

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Understood. We all have different tastes even of some are more unconventional than most. I'm a HUGE fan of that ride so I was just curious about an opposite perspective on it.

Of course. And if Disney ever got rid of Splash and you were very upset about it, I wouldn't tell you to get over it and ride some other attraction, because you care about it.
 

Curious Constance

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I'llllllllllll just be leaving this here (sorry, it was one of the few reactions that I'll never forget from this forum!)
This is where we disagree. I feel many of your posts do reflect the "how dare they" attitude. In addition to the above example, saying that Disney enjoys ruining history because they changed the breakfast you enjoy, and another example off the top of my head is stating you wanted to slap your good friend who thinks that old attractions should be removed. That doesn't sound like prefect examples of, "How dare they?!" to you?
 

Californian Elitist

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Seriously, has no one on this board ever heard of hyperbole/exaggeration for effect?

Never said anything about ruining history. History can't be ruined, it's already set and can't be changed.
 

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