Politics Theme Park Reopening Guidelines to be released 10/20/20

[lazyboy97o]

Isn't that the point of American democracy? People get to enact the laws that they see fit.

Not really, and it’s exactly the sort of thing the founders warned about. It gets into the classic argument of democracy versus republicanism, rule of the people versus the rule of law. There are actions that are wrong and inappropriate even if supported by a super majority. Hamilton argued against the Bill of Rights because of wording we now see, the concept of “constitutional rights” which implies and is often understood to mean that the Constitution, the government, grants those rights.

 

[Stevek]

Who wants to endanger others? I think we have pretty well identified the most vulnerable and we need to protect them with strong yet reasonable
measures. For the vast majority it’s not deadly, and those of us who fall into that category need to be cautious, but moving the country forward, while protecting those in our immediate and extended families who might be vulnerable.
Everyone I know is already doing this!

There have been plenty of non-high risk people that have died from this. Yes, there are some that are very vulnerable there are others that seem very healthy and die with no underlying conditions. Unfortunately, people think that we should ONLY protect those that are most vulnerable.

 

[mickEblu]

There have been plenty of non-high risk people that have died from this. Yes, there are some that are very vulnerable there are others that seem very healthy and die with no underlying conditions. Unfortunately, people think that we should ONLY protect those that are most vulnerable.

We should protect everybody and anyone who is social distancing and wearing masks is doing that. We are discussing those that are most vulnerable as they require the extra attention and care.

 

[Stevek]

FYI @TP2000 @Darkbeer1 The Anaheim hotel is offering free public parking for downtown Disney! Big banner out front

According to RatChat, The Anaheim Hotel is actually $10 with a voucher posted on their site.

 

[lazyboy97o]

We should protect everybody and anyone who is social distancing and wearing masks is doing that. We are discussing those that are most vulnerable as they require the extra attention and care.

Masks and social distancing are not protection, they are mitigation that is less effective than minimizing person-to-person interaction.

Are you going to tell us what extra attention for the most vulnerable actually entails?

 

[Deleted member 107043]

Gavin Newsom is now doing the ultimate social distancing by going into hiding.

Hiding? He posted this on Twitter 3 hours ago.

 

[TP2000]

Hiding? He posted this on Twitter 3 hours ago.

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You can't get questioned by the media when your assistant Tweets from your office Twitter account.

He skipped the press conferences today rolling out the statewide curfew. He is avoiding all public events and press conferences. He's going to remain in hiding for at least a few more days, waiting for this to blow over.

In a non-holiday period, I would expect him to reappear later next week. But since next week is Thanksgiving and he'll be on vacation, he'll probably stay unseen in public until Monday, November 30th.

 

[EricsBiscuit]

Just wanted to express my condolences to all you poor folks living in California. Cheers from Florida!

 

[Deleted member 107043]

Just wanted to express my condolences to all you poor folks living in California. Cheers from Florida!

I happened to be looking at Covid metrics from your state just now, and things don't look good. Our governor is imperfect, but our state is doing quite well overall for virus containment compared to the rest of the US at the moment. According to NYT analysis of Oxford data the surge is worst in places where leaders neglected to keep up forceful virus containment efforts or failed to implement basic measures like mask mandates.

I'll note that since the pandemic began Florida ranks 20th overall in cases per million while California ranks 42nd. The Sunshine State ranks 14th for Covid deaths per million while the Golden State is currently sitting at 35th.

Cheers from California!

 

[George Lucas on a Bench]

Zzzzzz...

 

[EricsBiscuit]

I happened to be looking at Covid metrics from your state just now, and things don't look good. Our governor is imperfect, but our state is doing quite well overall for virus containment compared to the rest of the US at the moment. According to NYT analysis of Oxford data the surge is worst in places where leaders neglected to keep up forceful virus containment efforts or failed to implement basic measures like mask mandates.

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I'll note that since the pandemic began Florida ranks 20th overall in cases per million while California ranks 42nd. The Sunshine State ranks 14th for Covid deaths per million while the Golden State is currently sitting at 35th.

Cheers from California!

Youre killing your state over a virus with a 99.9% survival rate. If you think you’re better off because of that, please stay in California!

 

[truecoat]

Youre killing your state over a virus with a 99.9% survival rate. If you think you’re better off because of that, please stay in California!

By that statistic, we will cap out at 330,000 deaths. It's nice to know we only have 80,000 to go.

 

[EricsBiscuit]

By that statistic, we will cap out at 330,000 deaths. It's nice to know we only have 80,000 to go.

As if there is no one who will die from the side effects of the lockdown. It’s nice to know you’ve thought this one through.

 

[lazyboy97o]

As if there is no one who will die from the side effects of the lockdown. It’s nice to know you’ve thought this one through.

Then maybe you can provide some numbers. And remember, they have to have died from the lockdown and not with the lockdown.

 

[truecoat]

As if there is no one who will die from the side effects of the lockdown. It’s nice to know you’ve thought this one through.

My point was that the 99.9 is wrong. The death rate is obviously higher than that.

 

[el_super]

As if there is no one who will die from the side effects of the lockdown. It’s nice to know you’ve thought this one through.

It's sad all those people had to die in Florida (at about twice the rate of California), but at least your tourism industry is booming and everyone has a job right?

 

[MoonRakerSCM]

Right, glad you came to your senses.

 

[Darkbeer1]

Ok, I think I figured this out.

Due to the Governor and his spouse attending a risky event.

His whole family should isolate for at least 14 days.

That means everyone in his household must stay at home for 2 weeks, no going out for anything.

Also, nobody shall enter their residence for 14 days.

Meetings with his staff and others by phone and video conferencing only.

The Kids can't go to school, or have tutors come to the residence.

Food must be ordered online and dropped off on the patio.

But I am not holding my breath.

 

[Deleted member 107043]

Youre killing your state over a virus with a 99.9% survival rate. If you think you’re better off because of that, please stay in California!

Imagine still holding to a point of view this untethered from reality after being shown concrete data proving that CA's COViD mitigation efforts are working. People are literally on here making up their own definitions of the truth.

 

[George Lucas on a Bench]

The truth? But, the truth is in the eye of the behaaccckkk!!! Alright. Alright! I did it.