GimpYancIent
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If it looks like it, sounds like it, comes across like it, Oh Yes!, SMELLS like it, it must be.
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Politics Theme Park Reopening Guidelines to be released 10/20/20
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The very kind of thinking that leads the gullible into believing conspiracy theories, cause, you know, the Earth *looks* flat.
GimpYancIent
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Wow, you are a flat earther! Very revealing!
SoCalMort
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If the Earth was flat cats would have pushed everything off the edge by now.
el_super
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No.
In case anyone is still confused by this, the LA Times had a pretty concise summary:
The Sutter County Superior Court ruling is not expected to have an impact on the state’s mandates for Californians to wear masks when out in public, or other pandemic-related statewide restrictions on activities and businesses.
The state public health officer, who reports to Newsom, has the authority under state law to combat a contagious, infectious or communicable disease by taking “measures as are necessary to ascertain the nature of the disease and prevent its spread,” according to the state health and safety code. That law is separate from the Emergency Services Act.
You can read the whole thing here: 
Gov. Newsom rebuked by Sutter County court for use of executive power amid COVID-19 pandemic
Sutter County Superior Court Judge Sarah Heckman issued an injunction barring the governor from taking executive action that "changes existing statutory law or makes new statutory law or legislative policy."
www.latimes.com
I seriously can't understand why anyone thought this would make the lockdowns disappear.
TP2000
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The Four Tier thing update was delayed a day due to Election Day, but was just released this afternoon.
Everything in SoCal is standing pat this week.
Orange County (Disneyland, Knott's) is still in the Red Tier, and has lower cases and less racism than the other SoCal counties. San Diego County (Legoland, Sea World) is still in the Red Tier. Los Angeles County (Universal Studios, Magic Mountain) continues to be in the Purple Tier. LA County saw their case rates go up a bit, while Los Angeles County continues to be more racist than Orange or San Diego counties, but less racist than their fellow Purple Tier Riverside County (Castle Park).
So no big movement happening within the next few weeks for any SoCal county, things seem to be standing pat with no Tier changes before Thanksgiving week.
covid19.ca.gov
Everything in SoCal is standing pat this week.
Orange County (Disneyland, Knott's) is still in the Red Tier, and has lower cases and less racism than the other SoCal counties. San Diego County (Legoland, Sea World) is still in the Red Tier. Los Angeles County (Universal Studios, Magic Mountain) continues to be in the Purple Tier. LA County saw their case rates go up a bit, while Los Angeles County continues to be more racist than Orange or San Diego counties, but less racist than their fellow Purple Tier Riverside County (Castle Park).
So no big movement happening within the next few weeks for any SoCal county, things seem to be standing pat with no Tier changes before Thanksgiving week.
COVID-19 Home
covid19.ca.gov
SoCalMort
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Racism is a profoundly toxic claim. Exactly what do you mean?
Unless you're joking, of course. Because nothing is funnier than racism.
Edited: Correct spelling of you're.
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He's referring to the "Equity" protocols in determining a county's tier.
The protocols have counties (if they chose to comply to get the bonus of being bumped into a better tier) identify poor neighborhoods and make sure they get targeted testing and healthcare and education and that their positivity rate doesn't lag way behind the more well-to-do sections of the county.
"No poor neighborhood left behind.'
Generally these areas tend to be non-White neighborhoods and their poverty is often a result of a few centuries of systemic racism.
So... not inaccurate.
SoCalMort
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Yes, it is inaccurate.
The equity metric is based on California's Healthy Places Index. HPI looks at 25 different indicators in eight categories, none of which measure or reflect race or ethnicity. (See Table 2, pages 13-14, in link below.) In fact, the exclusion of race is a deliberate choice "to make the HPI be accessible to state policy makers, who are limited by the 1996 ballot proposition 209 from making funding decisions for state programs based on race." (See page 6 in link below.)
Framing the purpose of the equity metric as a way to measure racism, especially given the murder of George Floyd and similar events this year, is a toxic diversion designed to create outrage while undermining the metric's goals.
Or maybe it was simply said in jest because, you know, nothing is funnier than racism.
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lazyboy97o
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Beach Boardwalk is first amusement park to reopen in California | blooloop
Santa Cruz Beach Boardwalk has set its reopening date under state guidelines, making it the first amusement park to reopen in California.
blooloop.com
el_super
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Beach Boardwalk is first amusement park to reopen in California | blooloop
Santa Cruz Beach Boardwalk has set its reopening date under state guidelines, making it the first amusement park to reopen in California.
“State of California guidelines limit ride purchases to Santa Cruz County residents only and require advanced reservations,” reads a statement.
Good for them. This really makes so much sense.
The politics of race in the U.S. is such that any affirmative action based on race as a means of reparations of multi-generational oppression is labeled "reverse discrimination" and invalidated by courts or referendums such as the one you quote.
The way around that is to single out everyone who is financially struggling.... which also happens to be disproportionately people of color (although, White folk should keep in mind that such programs help poor White folk of which there is a considerable amount of such poverty).
The Equity protocol is clearly intended to help people of color by that back-door anti-poverty protocol. Whether TP is calling it racism because he thinks it's racism in the sense of "reverse discrimination" or because it is a remedy to racism... I don't know. But let's be clear it falls under what's allowed to help those disadvantaged by generations of discrimination based on skin color... you know, 'racism.'
And if part or all of its intent is predicated on racism doesn't really matter, since it is structured neutrally as an anti-poverty program, which I hope we can all agree is a good thing (except those who want theme parks open NOW regardless of the consequences).
SoCalMort
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Agreed, with just one important distinction: It isn't structured neutrally as an anti-poverty program. It is structured neutrally as pro-health program designed to ensure one segment of a county's population does not significantly lag behind other segments in test positivity rate for COVID-19.
This may seem like a near meaningless distinction but it really isn't. I could get into specifics as to why framing this around race or poverty isn't.......wise, shall we say......but it is probably prudent to leave it at that.
"The Disneyland resort’s three hotels are no longer accepting reservations and will remain closed indefinitely as the continuing coronavirus closure of Disney’s two adjacent theme parks stretches toward eight months."
www.ocregister.com
Disneyland hotels no longer taking reservations
The Disneyland Hotel, Disney’s Grand Californian Hotel & Spa and Paradise Pier Hotel are not accepting reservations, according to Disney officials.
www.ocregister.com
lazyboy97o
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Tomorrow will be three weeks since the guidelines were released and still no legal challenge. With the news of reservations no longer being accepted and additional furloughs it seems doubtful that Disney thinks a legal challenge would find success.
mickEblu
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Most likely. Unless they don’t think it’s worth the hassle based on some intel/ hope/ intuition that the parks could happen shortly after the new year?
1HAPPYGHOSTHOST
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Or they can't afford a lawsuit since they are not making any money right now.
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Iger's base salary is $3 million. In 2019 he received a cash bonus of $21.8 million, plus stock awards and options totaling $19.7 million, so I'm pretty sure litigation costs aren't a significant factor. If Disney is so poor maybe Iger can sacrifice some of his enormous wealth to the cause. With the mountain of money he's sitting on I doubt he would even notice.
1HAPPYGHOSTHOST
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Iger is not ceo anymore and his salary in 2019 when there was no virus compared to 2020 when there is a unexpected world wide pandemic and the park has been closed for months are 2 very different conversations. Plus, no one who works for a fortune 500 company pays for a company lawsuit out of their own pocket. Disney's legal team has to hire someone and right now they can't even afford to have a Mickey Mouse Ice Cream Cart in Downtown Disney.