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Politics Theme Park Reopening Guidelines to be released 10/20/20
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TP2000
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As a point of reference, the population of the five SoCal counties that have about 20 million people living within a 90 minute freeway drive of Disneyland, is about the same population as the five Southwest states of;
Colorado 5.8 Million
New Mexico 2.0 Million
Arizona 7.4 Million
Nevada 3.2 Million
Utah 3.3 Million
Total = 21.7 Million
Los Angeles County = 10.1 Million
San Diego County = 3.3 Million
Orange County = 3.2 Million
Riverside County = 2.5 Million
San Bernardino County = 2.2 Million
Total = 21.3 Million
Colorado 5.8 Million
New Mexico 2.0 Million
Arizona 7.4 Million
Nevada 3.2 Million
Utah 3.3 Million
Total = 21.7 Million
Los Angeles County = 10.1 Million
San Diego County = 3.3 Million
Orange County = 3.2 Million
Riverside County = 2.5 Million
San Bernardino County = 2.2 Million
Total = 21.3 Million
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lazyboy97o
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If you ignore all of the ones that are controlled.
el_super
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Isn't 20 million people enough... why would you want to invite more in?
TP2000
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20 Million is huge. Bigger than many countries. And the great Southern California freeway system can get them all there in 90 minutes or less.
Throwing open the gates of Disneyland, even without rides to lure in
It just makes me chuckle that Sacramento thinks that is okay somehow.
Ldno
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Newsom is on another level, he says he’s driven by data, science and public health first, refuses to name Disneyland by name but forgets Disney is driven by CDC data that makes it stand Out from all others and still wants to say oh by the way I have four kids because he “understands”?
I’m confused he even states that those that “rightfully” want their jobs back, like they have a choice...
el_super
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Where is this bizarre suggestion that Downtown Disney, with retail and shopping and no rides, can somehow attract as many people as a theme park coming from?
If you honestly see it as the same thing, then how can you have any objections to Disneyland just keeping the rides closed forever?
TP2000
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I'm just looking two months and three steps ahead. They aren't going to stop with opening Elias & Co.
More shopping and rolling entertainment on Main Street USA. Adventureland food faire. Hollywood Backlot wine festival. Etc., etc.
By the one year anniversary of the closure next March, it wouldn't surprise me to see half of each park reopened under "shopping and dining" guidelines. But no rides. Science and Data and 20 Million people.
lazyboy97o
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Again, Downtown Disney is not the sort of thing people turn into a vacation.
DrAlice
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First, thanks for the peek behind the curtain.
Now, can someone explain to me the distinction (from an infectious disease standpoint) between a scripted act and an improvised one? What am I'm missing here? I could see if you were going from the "don't want to start a crowd" standpoint, but it was stated that a stage performance was ok. It just can't be scripted. Seriously, I don't get it.
lazyboy97o
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Nobody actually likes improv.First, thanks for the peek behind the curtain.
Now, can someone explain to me the distinction (from an infectious disease standpoint) between a scripted act and an improvised one? What am I'm missing here? I could see if you were going from the "don't want to start a crowd" standpoint, but it was stated that a stage performance was ok. It just can't be scripted. Seriously, I don't get it.
Disney Irish
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I'm not an actor, but I'll take a guess. Audience Participation? With improvised acts (at least the ones I've seen) there is a lot more audience participation, leading to more audience interaction by the actors. So in order to limit the amount of audience interaction between the actors and audience stick to scripted acts.First, thanks for the peek behind the curtain.
Now, can someone explain to me the distinction (from an infectious disease standpoint) between a scripted act and an improvised one? What am I'm missing here? I could see if you were going from the "don't want to start a crowd" standpoint, but it was stated that a stage performance was ok. It just can't be scripted. Seriously, I don't get it.
Again just my guess.
DrAlice
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But, I think you read that backward. Scripted was OUT and improv and interacting with the diners was OK.
Disney Irish
Premium Member
Guess so, don't know.
lazyboy97o
Well-Known Member
There are two distinctions I could see being related to the distinction been scripted and unscripted, narrative arc and schedule. The assumption might be that a scripted show is more scheduled and that people will stay for the entire performance. Whereas unscripted is assumed as something that happens while you there but doesn’t significantly drive your decision making.
A scripted show lasts for a particular length of time. People tend to stay and gather until the script has come to its conclusion. Such a show is meaningless if you don't catch the beginning, and so, it starts at scheduled times.
Improv has people coming and going. If the crowd gets too big, the actors can wind up quick and pop out.
It's like the difference between a full parade and a surprise one-float cavalcade.
Improv has people coming and going. If the crowd gets too big, the actors can wind up quick and pop out.
It's like the difference between a full parade and a surprise one-float cavalcade.
DrAlice
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While I hear what you both are saying, I'm not sure that, in this context, those arguments apply. We are talking about people eating and watching a show on a stage. It shouldn't matter if it is scripted or not, as people are likely to stay and finish their boysenberry hamburger either way. And if the tables and performers are socially distanced and outside, there isn't much difference in a scripted stage show or an improvised one, in terms of risk.
I think a parade or cavalcade are different than a "dinner show" in terms of drawing a crowd.
As I'm mulling this over, I'm wondering if this distinction has more to do with the state's classification of "restaurant/dining" vs. "entertainment". If so, this sanction would fall under the heading of a legal decision instead of a science decision. In other words, the state is doing their best to be consistent, even if it doesn't make as much sense from an infectious disease standpoint.
I think a parade or cavalcade are different than a "dinner show" in terms of drawing a crowd.
As I'm mulling this over, I'm wondering if this distinction has more to do with the state's classification of "restaurant/dining" vs. "entertainment". If so, this sanction would fall under the heading of a legal decision instead of a science decision. In other words, the state is doing their best to be consistent, even if it doesn't make as much sense from an infectious disease standpoint.
SoCalMort
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First, thanks for the peek behind the curtain.
Now, can someone explain to me the distinction (from an infectious disease standpoint) between a scripted act and an improvised one? What am I'm missing here? I could see if you were going from the "don't want to start a crowd" standpoint, but it was stated that a stage performance was ok. It just can't be scripted. Seriously, I don't get it.
I'm guessing the distinction is between any type of formal act (scripted or improvised) and brief light banter (interacting) between the duo providing 'atmosphere' and customers.
So I doubt something like MIddleditch and Schwartz, an hour of completely improvised comedy, would be allowed but a duo providing atmosphere might be able to welcome people, ask where they are from, take requests, wish a happy birthday, etc.
Just guessing.
