The worst decision WDW ever made?

NickMaio

NickMaio

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Weather_Lady said:
The worst decision for my family was WDW's pennywise and pound foolish monetizing of shorter wait times by introducing ILL/G+... while making changes to staffing and capacity that it knew would increase standby wait times, and structuring queues to ensure that standby guests would be able to see (and be demoralized by) just how many lightning lane guests were gaining priority access, all to further incentivize ILL/G+ purchases.

Of all the changes, downgrades, and cuts WDW has made in the 10+ years we've been visiting as a family, that was the one that eroded the quality and pleasantness of our visits the most, and broke the proverbial camel's back as far as us wanting to return. We have no desire to deal with the time-consuming hassle and extra expense of ILL/G+, and no desire to deal with the time-consuming hassle and [still hugely expensive] exercise of waiting in standby lines that WDW has intentionally made longer and slower -- either way, we lose.
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Well said........
 
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Mondo

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I honestly think the removal of Splash Mountain may prove to cost Disney millions of dollars in lost revenue every year. As Foxx Nolte of Passport2Dreams once said, Disney’s core product is nostalgia. People remember that name, and it invokes images of a thrilling, refreshing splash on a beautiful day.

If Disney had changed the name to Tiana’s Splash Mountain, or Splash Mountain with Princess Tiana, this wouldn’t be as much of a problem, but to the uninvested casual it just appears as though there isn’t a flume ride anymore.
 
Jrb1979

Jrb1979

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Weather_Lady said:
The worst decision for my family was WDW's pennywise and pound foolish monetizing of shorter wait times by introducing ILL/G+... while making changes to staffing and capacity that it knew would increase standby wait times, and structuring queues to ensure that standby guests would be able to see (and be demoralized by) just how many lightning lane guests were gaining priority access, all to further incentivize ILL/G+ purchases.

Of all the changes, downgrades, and cuts WDW has made in the 10+ years we've been visiting as a family, that was the one that eroded the quality and pleasantness of our visits the most, and broke the proverbial camel's back as far as us wanting to return. We have no desire to deal with the time-consuming hassle and extra expense of ILL/G+, and no desire to deal with the time-consuming hassle and [still hugely expensive] exercise of waiting in standby lines that WDW has intentionally made longer and slower -- either way, we lose.
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I disagree. I think G+/ILL was a good idea. I think they haven't gone far enough to cap it like the majority of other parks.


IMO the worst mistake is the IP mandate. Too much focus on putting IP into the parks even if it doesn't fit.
 
Minnesota disney fan

Minnesota disney fan

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Weather_Lady said:
The worst decision for my family was WDW's pennywise and pound foolish monetizing of shorter wait times by introducing ILL/G+... while making changes to staffing and capacity that it knew would increase standby wait times, and structuring queues to ensure that standby guests would be able to see (and be demoralized by) just how many lightning lane guests were gaining priority access, all to further incentivize ILL/G+ purchases.

Of all the changes, downgrades, and cuts WDW has made in the 10+ years we've been visiting as a family, that was the one that eroded the quality and pleasantness of our visits the most, and broke the proverbial camel's back as far as us wanting to return. We have no desire to deal with the time-consuming hassle and extra expense of ILL/G+, and no desire to deal with the time-consuming hassle and [still hugely expensive] exercise of waiting in standby lines that WDW has intentionally made longer and slower -- either way, we lose.
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Our family feels the same way - no desire to go to this rendition of WDW at all.
Universal is our favorite theme park now, and we keep finding things we never saw on every trip. Love it!
 
Minnie1976

Minnie1976

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TubaGeek said:
Not MM+, but how much money they put into MM+. Aside from the financial issue and the new FP+ system, I still have faith in the system having some major potential benefits in the future.
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FP+ was the beginning of messing things up.
FP was fine but FP+ 👎👎👎. It is graduated from there and then showed Disney’s greed.
 
TinkerBelle8878

TinkerBelle8878

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Moving MuppetVision and retheming RNR to Muppets to make up for it. An all ages attraction vs a coaster many cannot and don't want to ride..great compromise...so ticked off at this. Or making Muppet Vision available on Virtual Reality...that's super expensive and will probably be cancelled due to price of the console/headset thing and people not wanting or needing them.
 
Mark Dunne

Mark Dunne

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I could be here most of the day, but gonna keep it short( kinda)
The whole Imagination pavilion ! Sticking a guy or girl in a ridiculous 6ft dragon suit!
ROA being bulldozed for what! An overrated IP Attraction,
Closing attractions and not re imagining them. ( stitch )
Losing Illuminations, 3 shows later, millions spent, still no where as good as the original show IMHO.
Losing M.E from airport to resort .
Underpaying cast members !!!!
This was always going to a popular thread . Of course they do an awful lot right, and we still love going to WDW.
 
Mark Dunne

Mark Dunne

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TinkerBelle8878 said:
Moving MuppetVision and retheming RNR to Muppets to make up for it. An all ages attraction vs a coaster many cannot and don't want to ride..great compromise...so ticked off at this. Or making Muppet Vision available on Virtual Reality...that's super expensive and will probably be cancelled due to price of the console/headset thing and people not wanting or needing them.
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let’s wait and see, I actually can see the overlay working to be honest. We love MV3D, I told my wife about this yesterday , she was 😞, but let’s see, what they managed to do with bear jamboree is pretty cool, it’s a great show now. I can see the pre show for RNR still having stadler and Waldorf in it, as long as they keep them , I’m ok with it. I also can see someone from the Henson family being involved in some way, the guy was loved by soooooo many. So fingers crossed we can a good show, I suppose my concern is that if they only have one muppet attraction and it’s this, that will eliminate a lot of family’s, as not everyone like rollscoasters . If they change it, change the track ,a complete overhaul . 🤞they do the right thing . Now really can’t wait til Jan to take mum to muppet vision . 😍, take care 👍
 
S.I.R. the Robot

S.I.R. the Robot

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In the Parks
No
Removing an evil male robot voiced by Tim Curry (granted, it wasn't very popular and it was out of place in the Magic Kingdom, but STILL.) At least we still have an evil male robot in that same land... voiced by Ken Mitchroney... :confused:

Removing Body Wars. That may as well have been David Hayter's first acting role (if it weren't a woman...) I understand the simulation was rough, but they could've updated it to include newer scenes (and add David Hayter as the patient if it actually WERE a woman, given David was attractive round 2007.)

Removing DINOSAUR. I know many could only think of "ARARARARARA" when the Carnotaurus came up, but for those who weren't familiar with Hanna-Barbera, it was a great ride even if the effects weren't always working.

Removing the Great Movie Ride. It was the flagship ride of the entire park! I only think they did it because of the Alien scene. (Relating to the first part of this post.) Also, making C-3PO the pilot on the new Star Tours instead of RX-24, and regulating him to a defective droid in the queue. Hot take here, but I'm not really fond of R-3X. I mainly like pilot droid RX-24. Imagine his reaction to Boba Fett in the Geonosis scene...

Removing Tough to be a Bug. I actually like it (mainly because of the idea of screaming "SPIIIIIDERS SPIDERS GET THEM OFF OF ME" during the spiders scene... IYKYK), and I like A Bug's Life too. I really want them to still have representation in the parks. They're the most underrated Pixar characters, especially because they were some of the first besides Toy Story and their movie has never gotten a sequel (YES, I KNOW UP AND WALL-E NEVER GOT SEQUELS EITHER.)

(I know DINOSAUR and TTBAB haven't closed, yet, but someone mentioned the Muppets retheme of RNRC so...)
 
graphite1326

graphite1326

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Mark Dunne said:
let’s wait and see, I actually can see the overlay working to be honest. We love MV3D, I told my wife about this yesterday , she was 😞, but let’s see, what they managed to do with bear jamboree is pretty cool, it’s a great show now. I can see the pre show for RNR still having stadler and Waldorf in it, as long as they keep them , I’m ok with it. I also can see someone from the Henson family being involved in some way, the guy was loved by soooooo many. So fingers crossed we can a good show, I suppose my concern is that if they only have one muppet attraction and it’s this, that will eliminate a lot of family’s, as not everyone like rollscoasters . If they change it, change the track ,a complete overhaul . 🤞they do the right thing . Now really can’t wait til Jan to take mum to muppet vision . 😍, take care 👍
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No just no.
 
graphite1326

graphite1326

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S.I.R. the Robot said:
Removing an evil male robot voiced by Tim Curry (granted, it wasn't very popular and it was out of place in the Magic Kingdom, but STILL.) At least we still have an evil male robot in that same land... voiced by Ken Mitchroney... :confused:

Removing Body Wars. That may as well have been David Hayter's first acting role (if it weren't a woman...) I understand the simulation was rough, but they could've updated it to include newer scenes (and add David Hayter as the patient if it actually WERE a woman, given David was attractive round 2007.)

Removing DINOSAUR. I know many could only think of "ARARARARARA" when the Carnotaurus came up, but for those who weren't familiar with Hanna-Barbera, it was a great ride even if the effects weren't always working.

Removing the Great Movie Ride. It was the flagship ride of the entire park! I only think they did it because of the Alien scene. (Relating to the first part of this post.) Also, making C-3PO the pilot on the new Star Tours instead of RX-24, and regulating him to a defective droid in the queue. Hot take here, but I'm not really fond of R-3X. I mainly like pilot droid RX-24. Imagine his reaction to Boba Fett in the Geonosis scene...

Removing Tough to be a Bug. I actually like it (mainly because of the idea of screaming "SPIIIIIDERS SPIDERS GET THEM OFF OF ME" during the spiders scene... IYKYK), and I like A Bug's Life too. I really want them to still have representation in the parks. They're the most underrated Pixar characters, especially because they were some of the first besides Toy Story and their movie has never gotten a sequel (YES, I KNOW UP AND WALL-E NEVER GOT SEQUELS EITHER.)

(I know DINOSAUR and TTBAB haven't closed, yet, but someone mentioned the Muppets retheme of RNRC so...)
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I agree with everything you said here
 
S.I.R. the Robot

S.I.R. the Robot

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In the Parks
No
bjlc57 said:
Getting rid of Eisner.. also becoming bean counters instead of dreamers..
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Eisner was actually a blessing for Disney, because without him, we wouldn't have Animal Kingdom, Alien Encounter, Body Wars, Rock 'n Roller Coaster, Tower of Terror, and all the other classics that may or may not be at the parks anymore. Even if he wanted to put a mermaid in Splash Mountain...
 

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