The World's Most Magical Celebration - Walt Disney World's 50th anniversary

UNCgolf

Well-Known Member
I think they look good so far. As much as I would’ve liked them to be fabric, the overall look of the decorations so far is regal and fitting for the 50th. Honestly this fabric vs plastic argument is pedantic. Had they been fabric, I know some of you would’ve called WDI idiots for choosing that material in Florida weather.

They could have done something like marine vinyl fabric that wouldn't really be affected by the climate (at least not nearly as much as other types of fabric) and would have avoided the molded plastic look that does make it look a bit like a toy.
 

lazyboy97o

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I think they look good so far. As much as I would’ve liked them to be fabric, the overall look of the decorations so far is regal and fitting for the 50th. Honestly this fabric vs plastic argument is pedantic. Had they been fabric, I know some of you would’ve called WDI idiots for choosing that material in Florida weather.
There is no Commandment that requires the Castle be decorated with something that is or looks like fabric. Finding a solution that works aesthetically and functionally is like the basics of design.
 

lazyboy97o

Well-Known Member
This post is classic Zach, using nostalgia for respected creations in Disney's history to try to garner support for a modern creative decision of questionable taste.

MK's castle was certainly inspired by the one in the film, but it has never particularly resembled it in any meaningful way. Even in the film itself, the castle has a rather inconsistent appearance depending on the angle, time of day, and lighting shown. And neither are especially literal recreations of Mary Blair's famous concept art that was created during the film's early development.

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The current overall paint scheme has no basis in Mary Blair's art, and the decorations that are being added only serve to remove it even further from her style. The piece of publicity art they made is cute and all, but it's rather disingenuous to claim that the park installation has any connection to the original concepts for the film. Multicolored iridescent pastel patterned bunting is nowhere to be found in her gleaming white castle images.

This is just the latest in a growing trend of cherry-picking revered elements from Disney's past as justification for contemporary decisions. It's been going on for years (how many times have they trotted out Walt's quote about Disneyland not being a museum?), but seems to have accelerated significantly in the last couple years, in terms of the frequency that it's being done, the specificity and relative obscurity of the historical elements, and the degree of non-sequiturs it's being used on. Disney has always carefully curated their own history, but the degree to which they're actively re-writing it is concerning.


The more I see of the 50th additions, the more I can't help but wonder if the paint scheme was intentionally chosen to make the castle look like a piece of plastic. The molded fiberglass decorations do nothing to dispel the appearance of being an oversize playset. Whether intentional or not, this looks more convincingly like an oversized version of a real toy than 95% of what's in Toy Story Land.
I'm half surprised they didn't find a long lost piece of Mary Blair art that just happens to show how the 50th Anniversary decorations are what Walt always dreamed of for Princess Storytime Castle at DisneyPark Florida 1.
 

Animaniac93-98

Well-Known Member
I'm half surprised they didn't find a long lost piece of Mary Blair art that just happens to show how the 50th Anniversary decorations are what Walt always dreamed of for Princess Storytime Castle at DisneyPark Florida 1.

Just watch, on October 1 they'll rename Cinderella Castle to "The Castle of 50 Years of Magical Dreams" and cover up the mosaics with printed pictures of the current roster of Princesses that'll be advertised as "temporary" but stay after 2023.
 

hpyhnt 1000

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Just a thought but one of the reasons why they decided to installing the castle decorations now rather than waiting until closer to October is to give them time to adjust the projections for HEA and such?

I’m just worried about the new paint and decorations fading especially going into the hottest time of the year with the blazing sun.
It's probably less about the existing show projections and more for programming the EARidescence effects, which will undoubtedly be used to highlight the anniversary decor. Easier to program them with the decor up rather than having to make a best guess on their locations.

Or maybe the... mixed reactions to the castle paint job made them skittish and now they're being cautious by quasi-testing a few pieces of decor before throwing everything up. This way they can gauge reaction and/or make changes based on physical props rather than computer renderings.

Fabric would be nicer but I get why they chose fiberglass and/or plastic; we'll see how it all looks once the pieces are in place. Biggest issue for me is still that shade of pink on the castle itself, which is looking even more out of place as these largely blue and gold embellishments go up. But maybe Imagineer Zach will just retcon the pink as an homage to the whimsy of the castle cake from the 25th anniversary as envisioned by Joe Rohde during his travels to some nondescript place in India or something.
 
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TTA94

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It's probably less about the existing show projections and more for programming the EARidescence effects, which will undoubtedly be used to highlight the anniversary decor. Easier to program them with the decor up rather than having to make a best guess on their locations.

Or maybe the... mixed reactions to the castle paint job made them skittish and now they're being cautious by quasi-testing a few pieces of decor before throwing everything up. This way they can gauge reaction and/or make changes based on physical props rather than computer renderings.

Fabric would be nicer but I get why they chose fiberglass and/or plastic; we'll see how it all looks once the pieces are in place. Biggest issue for me is still that shade of pink on the castle itself, which is looking even more out of place as these largely blue and gold embellishments go up. But maybe Imagineer Zach will just retcon the pink as an homage to the whimsy of the castle cake from the 25th anniversary as envisioned by Joe Rhode during his travels to some nondescript place in India or something.

Maybe @MansionButler84 could comment on this but I don’t believe the decorations will have lighting capabilities? Just projections to enhance them at night?
 

hpyhnt 1000

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Maybe @MansionButler84 could comment on this but I don’t believe the decorations will have lighting capabilities? Just projections to enhance them at night?
Sorry, a bit vague in my initial post - was trying to say it's probably easier to program the projection effects for the decor pieces with them being physically present. Didn't mean to imply the decorations had built in lighting.
 

hpyhnt 1000

Well-Known Member
And yet again DL gets something nice over WDW:





I’ll give them that DL had been closed for a full year unlike WDW, but this is still anoying with WDWs 50th coming up.

To be fair, MK's Mansion has had quite a few changes over it's history. New hitch hiking ghost projections, new stair scene, new lighting effects for the hallway portraits, enhanced 360 audio for the stretching room, new graveyard queue with interactive features...

Some changes have been better than others, but it's one of the few WDW attractions that has received what I would call consistent attention and "upgrades" over the years.

Not that I wouldn't mind something new for the 50th. ;)
 

marni1971

Park History nut
Premium Member
And yet again DL gets something nice over WDW:





I’ll give them that DL had been closed for a full year unlike WDW, but this is still anoying with WDWs 50th coming up.

Snow White enhancements are still out to the jury. Orlando should be so lucky just to still have the ride. Unlike Anaheim. And Tokyo. And Paris.

Orlandos BTM has been scheduled to get the Anaheim and Paris enhancements. For four years now.
 

hpyhnt 1000

Well-Known Member
Snow White enhancements are still out to the jury. Orlando should be so lucky just to still have the ride. Unlike Anaheim. And Tokyo. And Paris.

Orlandos BTM has been scheduled to get the Anaheim and Paris enhancements. For four years now.
Aside from Paris being an absolutely gorgeous park as a whole - it really is like a "plussed' Magic Kingdom in all it's grandeur and details - its Big Thunder Mountain blows the US versions out of the water.
 

yensidtlaw1969

Well-Known Member
Snow White enhancements are still out to the jury. Orlando should be so lucky just to still have the ride. Unlike Anaheim. And Tokyo. And Paris.

Orlandos BTM has been scheduled to get the Anaheim and Paris enhancements. For four years now.
Any idea what might be coming to Disneyland’s Mansion?

It looks like the initial quote on the DPB that all these articles are referring to has been amended to say “New Magic coming to Snow White” instead of “Mansion”. I wonder if that’s in any way telling.
 

DCBaker

Premium Member
Any idea what might be coming to Disneyland’s Mansion?

It looks like the initial quote on the DPB that all these articles are referring to has been amended to say “New Magic coming to Snow White” instead of “Mansion”. I wonder if that’s in any way telling.
The Haunted Mansion mention came from the D23 article -

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