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MKCP 1985

Well-Known Member
To the ignorant, maybe.

Bang the Universal drum all you want, but the popularity of this website and many others for Walt Disney World compared to the relative lack of website interest for Universal Studios parks by comparison is further proof of the truth of my statements. Universal parks are a curiosity and a change of pace. They certainly offer something different not found in Disney parks (by Disney's choice), but the park experiences at Universal Studios and Islands of Adventure do not create that feeling of escape to another place. At their best, they feel like amusement parks with intricate detailing. I enjoy them for what they offer, but they will never again be my primary vacation destination. I tried that once with my family, when the kids were at a certain age and we all felt a Disney vacation with a side trip to Universal was more fun and more enjoyable.

If it makes you feel better to think everyone else is "ignorant" while you and a small contingent have found the truth, knock yourself out. There is a word for that condition though. . . "delusion."
 

JT3000

Well-Known Member
There is also a word for your attitude, "pompous." Speaking down to those you disagree with and making completely inane assumptions about them will achieve nothing.
 

SirGoofy

Member
Bang the Universal drum all you want, but the popularity of this website and many others for Walt Disney World compared to the relative lack of website interest for Universal Studios parks by comparison is further proof of the truth of my statements.

Or just the truth that people expect soething from the Disney brand. Something that they can get in California and he other parks, but is serverely lacking at WDW, but the marketing still gets em in.

Universal parks are a curiosity and a change of pace. They certainly offer something different not found in Disney parks (by Disney's choice), but the park experiences at Universal Studios and Islands of Adventure do not create that feeling of escape to another place.

To you.:wave:

At their best, they feel like amusement parks with intricate detailing. I enjoy them for what they offer, but they will never again be my primary vacation destination. I tried that once with my family, when the kids were at a certain age and we all felt a Disney vacation with a side trip to Universal was more fun and more enjoyable.

Seriously? Amusment parks with intricate theming?

Please.:rolleyes:

If it makes you feel better to think everyone else is "ignorant" while you and a small contingent have found the truth, knock yourself out. There is a word for that condition though. . . "delusion."

To say the Universal parks do not offer the same amount of theming as Disney parks is just that, ignorant. Never said Uni was better than DIsney, but it's right on par with it. And when they break the mold yet again and push the industry forward with Harry Potter, and WDW opens Meet and Greet land, Uni will get even closer to WDW.
 

WDW Vacationer

Active Member
Amusement parks with intricate detailing=theme parks.

With that said,in 2006 my family took a day to go to Universal Studios. We came in there expecting to have a great time,and thought it was similar to Disney and would give us the same feeling. It did not. It failed miserably. It was fun,but did not take us to another place,nor was it as much fun as WDW.
 

JT3000

Well-Known Member
Seriously? Amusment parks with intricate theming?

Please.:rolleyes:

That's basically what a theme park is. EVERY theme park, including Disney's. As much as some people want to believe that Universal and Disney parks belong to separate categories, they do not. Anything that defines one of them defines both of them.
 

SirGoofy

Member
With that said,in 2006 my family took a day to go to Universal Studios. We came in there expecting to have a great time,and thought it was similar to Disney and would give us the same feeling. It did not. It failed miserably. It was fun,but did not take us to another place,nor was it as much fun as WDW.

I find that people who go into Uni expecting it to be exactly like Disney are often disappointed, whereas the people who go in expecting a much more mature experience are often thrilled.

That's basically what a theme park is. EVERY theme park, including Disney's. As much as some people want to believe that Universal and Disney parks belong to separate categories, they do not. Anything that defines one of them defines both of them.

Exactly why I said please, should have clarified.:lol:
 

CaptainMichael

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The only thing Universal is lacking are guests. It has a lack of atmosphere because it's quiet. The quality is on par with Disney and maybe better in some instances. Nothing compares to Port of Entry or most of the Studios park. Just needs more people to make it feel more alive.
 

Mouse Man

New Member
As I stated previously, Uni lacks that take to me another world or relax and have fun attitude. Some of the rides are very good and some are just down right snoozers. i.e rip-saw falls, Doctor Doom, The Simpsons (wish they do away with this ride and bring back to the future back), Jimmy Neutron. The cast is always stating how anti-Disney they are and belittle you for wearing a WDW hat or a Mickey Mouse shirt on when visiting there park. The resorts are not relaxing nor all that great for the price you pay. Yes I know I have belittled Uni and do apologise for that. But Now I am truly speaking from experience from our trips and my Family trips. There is no no comparison between the Disney resort experience and Universals. Disney has so much more to offer for the entire family and makes all adults feel young again and little ones very magical. I can honestly say Uni does not come close. Uni is a really detailed amusement park that is one step better than Six flags.
 

MKCP 1985

Well-Known Member
There is also a word for your attitude, "pompous." Speaking down to those you disagree with and making completely inane assumptions about them will achieve nothing.

What I would hope to achieve would be to shine a light for you to see that in this forum, the opinion that Universal is beating Disney at the theme park business is equivalent to whistling against the wind.

As for speaking down to you, or to anyone else, I apologize for coming across that way.


To you.:wave:

Seriously? Amusment parks with intricate theming?

Please.:rolleyes:

To say the Universal parks do not offer the same amount of theming as Disney parks is just that, ignorant. Never said Uni was better than DIsney, but it's right on par with it. And when they break the mold yet again and push the industry forward with Harry Potter, and WDW opens Meet and Greet land, Uni will get even closer to WDW.

The only thing Universal is lacking are guests. It has a lack of atmosphere because it's quiet. The quality is on par with Disney and maybe better in some instances. Nothing compares to Port of Entry or most of the Studios park. Just needs more people to make it feel more alive.

What you guys don't get is that for all the theming, Universal misses the mark in making its customers feel as if they've escaped from their world into a special magical place. Why is that? It isn't because they didn't put enough detail into the queue of Dueling Dragons or Seussland. It is something else, but it is REAL and it is MISSING from the Universal experience.

That failure to deliver is the reason Universal is lacking guests. It is the reason people may spend a day or two at Universal or they may skip it all together, but they return time and time again to Disney, pay through the nose to stay on-site in crappy hotel rooms at All Stars and buy overpriced time shares at the Disney Vacation Club properties and are happy about doing so. Disney gives the whole family that feeling of escape - the Disney magic. Universal sneers at it, makes fun of it, and pays the price for that attitude when no matter how cool the Spider Man ride is, people keep signing up for the Disney vacations.

I've offended you. I get the :wave: That's too bad. I hope you will accept this Dole Whip as a peace offering.
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If you would try and phrase some of your opinions as "your opinions" instead of the truth, the light and the way, maybe we could all get along.
 

SirGoofy

Member
Disney gives the whole family that feeling of escape - the Disney magic.

AKA sappy marketing.:lol:

Disney Magic doesn't come from Disney. It comes from the people you spend your vacation with. The people you laugh with. Universal has magic. Just not the magic you seem to like.

If you would try and phrase some of your opinions as "your opinions" instead of the truth, the light and the way, maybe we could all get along.

Funny, you're making statements that are very matter of fact on the subject as well.
 

maggiegrace1

Well-Known Member
Doug...you are wasting your pompous breath...:lol: :ROFLOL:

Disney s u c ks..unless you bring back the Adventurers Club ya know...;)..then everything they do will be AMAZING!..:D

:lookaroun
 

T-1MILLION

New Member
I just want to point out to the people mentioning how some people like to point out that Universal Orlando will never be the supreme theme park resort destination in the world and it will always be second to Walt Disney World. What is your point? Disney World is a giant not only because of great theme parks but they also have over saturated markets of synergy. Disney store, Disney Channel, ABC ect...

They are of course going to be on top because they are the longest traiditon of quality. That argument proves nothing that they are automatically still better in feeding a tradition that they have held in the past. Not that I am agreeing or disagreeing because opinions and different trips to both resorts will vary in experiences beacuse nothing on that large of scale is consistant.

But if you want to call proof of all of that as meaning Disney is still top quality and it is not due to the multi million dollar synergy networks and outlets they have, then it is proof that Universal IS actually the only resort that can be considered such competition...the proof is in the fact that there is such a debate going on.

Also not calling anyone out and it is not so much on this site but when Wizarding World amazingly themed details came out, a lot of Disney fans got bitter.

Some of my favorites I see are "I don't like how Flight of the Hypogriff and Dueling Dragons are just being rethemed for this new area and being considered new experiences. Disney would never do that." Then you have to wonder what Fantasyland is doing with Dumbo and Barnstormer.:ROFLOL:
 

MKCP 1985

Well-Known Member
AKA sappy marketing.:lol:

Disney Magic doesn't come from Disney. It comes from the people you spend your vacation with. The people you laugh with. Universal has magic. Just not the magic you seem to like.



Funny, you're making statements that are very matter of fact on the subject as well.

maybe so, but I tried to couch most of it in terms of objective facts such as census numbers and gross sales, hotel occupancy and things of that nature. True, the "magic experience" is opinion that I might have lumped in as fact. And your response to that point - to attribute it to marketing - tells me we just don't see the parks the same way. :shrug:

I was thinking about all of this while doing some chores around the house and I'll grant you that we aren't going to agree on the state of Universal, even though we will both visit on our own terms and enjoy the Universal parks in our own ways.

Also, I see your point, that the announced plans at Disney continue to market to people traveling as families with kids, and you feel the teenaged - young adult single male demographic is ignored or marginalized. And since my posts have probably mostly served to take this discussion away from the topic - the upcoming Super Bowl commercial for Harry Potter Wizarding World, I will shut up. :lol:

I'm looking forward to Harry Potter land, but don't think it will change how Universal trains its employees to act towards park customers. Time will tell if this expansion truly transforms the park. Perhaps we can revisit the subject a year from now, when the expansion has been open long enough to be judged on its own merits.
 

SirGoofy

Member
Also, I see your point, that the announced plans at Disney continue to market to people traveling as families with kids, and you feel the teenaged - young adult single male demographic is ignored or marginalized.

No, no, I find WDW's(it's really only the Florida parks that seem to have this plague) problem to be much, much worse than that. I find that it's not the families they are aiming for in most of the new attractions, it's JUST the kids.

MK is slowly but surely being transformed into a kiddy-only park. It's somewhere my family has loved going together since I can remember, and our last rip, MK garnered less of our attention. Past a few classics, everything has been boiled down to a lowest common denominator experience. In our eyes, DHS and Epcot are basically keeping WDW afloat. And it's a travesty.

I have some other small gripes about the state of WDW, but what's happened at the MK is by far the worst.

I'm looking forward to Harry Potter land, but don't think it will change how Universal trains its employees to act towards park customers.

Eh, I really find that this is an over exaggerated complaint on USO. I've had just as many problems with Disney CMs as Uni's.

BTW, I know I come off as a bit head strong on this argument, and I apologize.:lol:
 

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