Cmdr_Crimson
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The Walt Disney Company brands, franchises, and offerings survey, including The Simpsons
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James Alucobond
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Uh, one is supposed to exemplify the golden age of Hollywood, and the other is an idealized celebratory mashup of several countries of the world within walking distance of one another. Again, they're exciting conceptually even if the execution doesn't do it for you, and they certainly have no need of IP to make them relevant.
Cmdr_Crimson
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Tha Realest
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The Simpsons Movie made more than all the Muppet films ever, combined.
Disney’s cancelled a few Muppet series already, and The Simpsons is still on TV four decades going.
Look, I love both, but in terms of historic or current cultural penetration, this is no contest.
Disney’s cancelled a few Muppet series already, and The Simpsons is still on TV four decades going.
Look, I love both, but in terms of historic or current cultural penetration, this is no contest.
James Alucobond
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... And the Muppets have only ever had one attraction at a time. By contrast, people are suggesting a large themed land in one of the coveted front-and-center HS expansion areas for the Simpsons in this thread despite the content of the show not really supporting such a thing.
It was a company-wide survey - here are a few more similar examples from the survey I took:
Nubs70
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Sirwalterraleigh
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Both were fine until the dedication to the theme was abandoned
Dak’s day is coming as well
If you are limiting the comparison to just those two…
Then no land gets built. As it should be
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DreamfinderGuy
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I don't think I would go that far. They get Moe's decently right, the rest? Ehhhhhhhh. It really shows that they had to shoehorn the IP into existing facilities.
Disney could do the same thing and still manage to execute it significantly better than Universal did. Should they? I guess that's the real question.
mattpeto
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This actually makes me feel better overall. Simpsons were just a small part of a survey and not an entire focus.
Sirwalterraleigh
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…no…at the end of the day…it’s the Simpsons
And the “Disney could” is not at all a given. Sounds more like a nostalgia based belief
We’re gonna find out in the spring
WaltWiz1901
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can't help but notice that all of these surveys literally chalk down to "Which of the following offerings do you want to hear more about from [X IP]?" and the same possible options for each one...
...right, like anyone's clamoring for a live-action Simpsons or Cars show
Sirwalterraleigh
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Only stuff that one Napoleon can claim some personal credit over…even loosely…nothing else really tolerated
Cmdr_Crimson
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It's funny how Henson's Dinosaurs lasted 4 seasons but was made fun of on The Simpsons..
And yet...The Dinosaurs had a mini parade/show at the studios..
And yet...The Dinosaurs had a mini parade/show at the studios..
That is bold to say as Disney's rethemes when shoehorned are the worst offenders of recent decades.
Cmdr_Crimson
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Hey doesn't The Land's Glass dome look like a Nuclear smoke stack.?
If so, they got a ride they can easily overlay in the Pavilion..
osian
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Hmm, I wrote something recently about a survey I received after my visit in November:
News - Cars-Themed Attractions at Magic Kingdom
The point has become obscured by some (disingenuous) interjections. Of course most rides feature vehicles that drive themselves... but usually, the vehicles aren't the entire point. An overwhelming majority of rides at WDW are a variation on a dark ride, which emphasizes storytelling and...
TLDR: These surveys encourage people to say something positive rather than negative. People will generally say "oh, yes, I want more attractions at Disney theme parks". Disney have already decided what they want to do, this is a way of justifying the decision by saying "it's what people want". You can't say that this is what people want if you give them a restricted list.
DreamfinderGuy
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I don’t understand why “it’s The Simpsons” matters at all. Universal still just applied Simpsons branding to existing facilities with little effort to make them show accurate beyond installing some logos. Even if you want to pull the “WDI’s not what it used to be” card, it’s not a tall order to build a suburban home, bar, convenience store, fast food restaurant, etc. etc.
Struggling to think of an example where Disney rethemed an existing facility to resemble a different fictional one where it doesn’t match up to the fictional one. The only one that comes to mind is Tiana’s (restaurant) at DL which I think at least does enough with its facade, but is otherwise pretty comparable
Correct. The entire thing has been blown way out of proportion, but it did capture the views, so mission accomplished
Who said setting is the only factor? Content. There is a nice big log flume that has been reduced.
You also now say comparable.
What do you see Disney doing better letting WDI do with Simpsons?
How do you feel Universal's area does not match up to the fictional one?
Some reality checks too:
A big property does not mean Disney will automatically do better. We saw this with what Disney did when they had complete access to the most currently popular version of Spiderman.
The Simpsons is an absolute zeitgiest, but it translates as about as well as it translates to theme parks with what Universal did, in 2007.
Disney is fine collecting all the money they make on ancillary spending there and elsewhere.
The voice actors are the highest paid in the industry per content. Disney can't afford for what they budget theme park attractions nor is it what they really want to do at this point with their youngest being in the 60s.
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