UNCgolf
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You basically have to if you care about sports (well, or you can have Youtube TV etc. but that's basically the same thing).
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You basically have to if you care about sports (well, or you can have Youtube TV etc. but that's basically the same thing).
Sirwalterraleigh
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Only for a little while longer…they’ll all be in a DTC format in a very short amount of time
We out of marketers blazed this trail long ago
ABQ
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I have to agree with @UNCgolf though, the way things like You Tube TV are just raising prices and adding more options it's just becoming Cable again. Before long, everything will be ad supported again and it'll just be lather, rinse, repeat via a new method. DTC will come with as many ads as cable does today, else every program produced will be nothing but product placement for however long a DTC show will be. Might as well watch a 42 minute commercial for the ShamWow, at least Vince was entertaining.
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
Oh I don’t disagree with that all…led by this 1995 dull cable schmuck
…they’re trying to get the same deal when the game changed
But as far as sports goes…every league and ncaa are gonna go DTC in short order.
The booms are gonna drop statistically by an astonishing percent In the next 10 years…
No matter how many go on ozempic
BURBANK, Calif., September 14, 2023 – The Walt Disney Company (NYSE: DIS) issued the following statement in response to media reports regarding our linear businesses.
“While we are open to considering a variety of strategic options for our linear businesses, at this time The Walt Disney Company has made no decision with respect to the divestiture of ABC or any other property and any report to that effect is unfounded.”
“While we are open to considering a variety of strategic options for our linear businesses, at this time The Walt Disney Company has made no decision with respect to the divestiture of ABC or any other property and any report to that effect is unfounded.”
hopemax
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The more streaming we've gotten, the more commercials we're forced to watch, with it sounding like there is even more on the horizon. I feel like that is the endgame. To get us all back to where we were before the VCR and the DVR gave us the freedom to FF. So if that's the choice, I'd rather just go back to linear, I think. At least there is more variety than the same 3-4 commercials played on repeat. Or just turn the bloody thing off. That's the price of too much bad entertainment, since networks think they can just swap creators in and out as if they were a cashier. Sports is no better. As the profits climbed, and the athletes risking their bodies justifiably found the need to fight for their slice of the pie, the result is less entertaining. Winning / losing... the angst, the joy felt by fans comes out of loyalty and a feeling of a shared struggle. But why be so loyal when the "it's just business card," gets played over and over?
ABQ
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Now I have that stupid jingle in my head! Oh oh oh.....
UNCgolf
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They're going to avoid it as long as possible, because it's very unlikely they'll be able to make as much money going DTC.
Tha Realest
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Oh and look, just as this news dropped “people in the know” leaked that D+ is going to miss its 2024 subscriber targets by a wide margin.
www.ocregister.com
Disney, short millions of subscribers, looks to cut streaming target
Disney+ has been losing customers to price increases,
www.ocregister.com
mightynine
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Oh, the big media corporations would love to get back to commercials, commercials, commercials since that's the closest to what they know now.
The only problem is, that's not probably still not enough to replace all the revenue lost from cable, as the salad days of everyone paying for channels they never watched aren't going to come back. Of course, that makes the channels they rushed to add to cable systems redundant, as we saw with the ones dropped by Charter and soon every other cable system come negotiation time will do the same.
That point is very, very close though.
IMO, the closest thing to what we have now would be the former cable companies that became your internet providers start making deals to have their customers get the streaming services included in their internet subscription, i.e.:
CableCom Internet ACCESS Customers can pick from among X amount of streaming services and get one included. CableCom Internet MAX Customers get three, CableCom Internet EXTREME get all of 'em! (The ad-supported versions, naturally)
Internet providers send a little per customer fee over to the companies like they used to per subscriber, more eyeballs for targeted ads (that'll just ignore them while looking at their phones waiting for their content to start but don't tell marketers that!)
It won't be the same amount of money, but it'll be something. And those poor CEOs will have to make do with only one mansion in the hills instead of two, so sad.
Maybe that's the future, maybe not. Maybe everything goes the FAST-based route and it's all lean-back background noise while playing games on our device of choice.
The only problem is, that's not probably still not enough to replace all the revenue lost from cable, as the salad days of everyone paying for channels they never watched aren't going to come back. Of course, that makes the channels they rushed to add to cable systems redundant, as we saw with the ones dropped by Charter and soon every other cable system come negotiation time will do the same.
That point is very, very close though.
IMO, the closest thing to what we have now would be the former cable companies that became your internet providers start making deals to have their customers get the streaming services included in their internet subscription, i.e.:
CableCom Internet ACCESS Customers can pick from among X amount of streaming services and get one included. CableCom Internet MAX Customers get three, CableCom Internet EXTREME get all of 'em! (The ad-supported versions, naturally)
Internet providers send a little per customer fee over to the companies like they used to per subscriber, more eyeballs for targeted ads (that'll just ignore them while looking at their phones waiting for their content to start but don't tell marketers that!)
It won't be the same amount of money, but it'll be something. And those poor CEOs will have to make do with only one mansion in the hills instead of two, so sad.
Maybe that's the future, maybe not. Maybe everything goes the FAST-based route and it's all lean-back background noise while playing games on our device of choice.
Serpico Jones
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They’re going to try to recreate a model that people abandoned in droves over the last decade. Makes no sense.
networkpro
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- In the Parks
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As expected, now comes discussions of the book value for divisions that are not considered core functions going forward.
Disstevefan1
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Are the theme parks core to TWDC? Just asking.
We know D+ and their Movie business are.
D+ greatly exceeded its first goal of subs and blew past it in the first month. At that time, it also had another goal: to be profitable in 2024.Oh and look, just as this news dropped “people in the know” leaked that D+ is going to miss its 2024 subscriber targets by a wide margin.
Disney, short millions of subscribers, looks to cut streaming target
Disney+ has been losing customers to price increases,
So, they greatly increased the sub goal. And, at that time, it also had another goal: to be profitable in 2024.
But with the Cricket League rights in India being exorbitantly high, Disney passed on those rights which led to millions of Indians (with an ARPU of $0.59) to unsubscribe. And so, Disney lowered that sub goal. And, at that time, it also had another goal: to be profitable in 2024.
Wall Street then decided they didn't care about sub numbers. They just wanted streamers to be profitable. And so, both Disney and Netflix followed suit and stopped caring and reporting on sub goals. And, at that time, it also had another goal: to be profitable in 2024.
So, technically, there are no sub goals to hit. Profitability is the goal.... in 2024.
flynnibus
Premium Member
Here, maybe we can help the OC Register Editor with his headlines...Oh and look, just as this news dropped “people in the know” leaked that D+ is going to miss its 2024 subscriber targets by a wide margin.
Disney, short millions of subscribers, looks to cut streaming target
Disney+ has been losing customers to price increases,
"Disney to miss subscriber target that no one, including Disney, is aiming for anymore"
Even if when cable/linear is dead dead, and streamer bundles are as much as cable used to be, we have this: Just about everything is now Video on Demand. No more missing shows because linear TV was... linear.
This story is repeated almost beat by beat in several sources. It's a packaged report. The clickbait title is for the clicks. Just reading the story takes the wind out of the sails of the clickbait title.
networkpro
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No one in the public knows how each division is being categorized or even if the existing divisional structure is even being used in this calculation. Iger did some immediate things after he hopped back in to stop some of the internal carnage, but if thats the end state or an interim state only he and the high muckety mucks know for sure.