News The Walt Disney Company Board of Directors Extends Robert A. Iger’s Contract as CEO Through 2026

Vegas Disney Fan

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Casper Gutman said:
What does a Disney that is “beating” YouTube and TikTok and Instagram look like? Because that sounds kind of awful to me…

As for Netflix, their model is based on producing huge quantities of bland, uninteresting garbage - far worse than anything Disney or any of its traditional studio competitors churns out. I don’t want that for Universal or Columbia or Paramount, let alone for Disney.
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I have no idea, nor apparently does Iger, but I know what’s not working and that’s losing a billion dollars on box office flops, turning a company that was universally known for its customer service into a joke by nickel and diming your guests into oblivion, taking studios that were pumping out hit after hit and changing their formula for social reasons, blaming your guests for the failure caused by those changes, etc.

I used to be the biggest Iger cheerleader here but I can’t ignore the last 5 years, when they announced he was coming back after Chapek I probably cheered the loudest because I thought it meant a course correction, then he continued doing exactly what Chapek was doing and I realized it was always him pulling the strings. I don’t know how anyone can still support Iger after the last 5 years, it’s been bad decision after bad decision after bad decision… at some point it has to change or the company we all know and love is going to be damaged beyond repair.
 
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Sirwalterraleigh

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Vegas Disney Fan said:
Peltz wouldn’t be a new owner, he wouldn’t have anywhere near that much power, he’d be more like a new consultant giving the coach advice, the coach could take that advice or ignore it, but at least you’d have the coach hearing new ideas rather than just being surrounded by yes men telling him what an amazing job he’s doing while the team loses.
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I disagree a little…he would be more vocal or trade that for concessions. But I doubt there isn’t some disclosure agreement in place when a new member is seated?

But the part about the board that’s important is that the ceo has been appointing the members and that’s bassackwards…

It was a terrible idea when Eisner wanted to do it…it’s a terrible idea as Iger has done it…and they obviously were scared to death of chapek doing it
 
Sirwalterraleigh

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Casper Gutman said:
As for Netflix, their model is based on producing huge quantities of bland, uninteresting garbage - far worse than anything Disney or any of its traditional studio competitors churns out. I don’t want that for Universal or Columbia or Paramount, let alone for Disney.
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Is that Netflix slick Bob was quoted two days ago as saying he wanted to emulate it?

…or the Italian version? 🤔
 
Casper Gutman

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Vegas Disney Fan said:
I have no idea, nor apparently does Iger, but I know what’s not working and that’s losing a billion dollars on box office flops, turning a company that was universally known for its customer service into a joke by nickel and diming your guests into oblivion, taking studios that were pumping out hit after hit and changing their formula for social reasons,
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Please explain how the “formula was changed for social reasons” and how that impacted Disney’s ability to make hits. With examples, please.
 
Jrb1979

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Casper Gutman said:
What does a Disney that is “beating” YouTube and TikTok and Instagram look like? Because that sounds kind of awful to me…

As for Netflix, their model is based on producing huge quantities of bland, uninteresting garbage - far worse than anything Disney or any of its traditional studio competitors churns out. I don’t want that for Universal or Columbia or Paramount, let alone for Disney.
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It makes money. Something those other streaming services have yet to do.
 
Sirwalterraleigh

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celluloid said:
Dude, you still reference Tom Cruise and ever since the last Mission Impossible Movie was a meh you have been claiming the star system is dead. That is your always example.
Tom Cruise has had flops throughout the last fifteen years.

There is still celebrity to be exploited and monetized in entertainment just like the star system did with contracts. It is not dead, it just changed.

The fact that you have referenced Tom Cruise again (whenever you bring this up) vs Chris Pratt or another makes it very evident.

Don't suffer old man syndrome.
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And Robert Downey was paid $10,000,000 for 8 minutes in a Spider-Man movie…

…so they got even: they buried him
Next to a lake and saw a 75% loss in box office take over the next 5 years 😂😂
 
Casper Gutman

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Jrb1979 said:
It makes money. Something those other streaming services have yet to do.
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Which everyone knew would be the case when streaming mania launched. If Disney+ doesn’t turn a profit by year’s end, you’ve got a case.

By the way, notice how we’ve had to role in TikTok and YouTube and Instagram to mask that all Hollywood is struggling?
 
Vegas Disney Fan

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lazyboy97o said:
Who do you think is outnumbered? Do think writers and directors are going to get a vote on the board? Or are you just writing words?
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Peltz would be one person on a 12 person board where the 11 other board members fully support Iger, you don’t think he’d be outnumbered?

Even if they somehow managed 2 seats they’d still be outnumbered 10-2… seems pretty obvious. This is also why I say he’d be a consultant, he’d be a minority voice, he wouldn’t have the power to do anything beyond offering advice, the board and Iger can either agree or ignore him. Not exactly rocket science here.
 
Casper Gutman

Casper Gutman

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Sirwalterraleigh said:
And Robert Downey was paid $10,000,000 for 8 minutes in a Spider-Man movie…

…so they got even: they buried him
Next to a lake and saw a 75% loss in box office take over the next 5 years 😂😂
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Was Spider-Man a Robert Downey Jr movie or a Spider-Man movie?

How many actors have played Spider-Man in hit films? Is Spider-Msn the draw or is it the actor in the leotard?
 
Disney Irish

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Jrb1979 said:
It makes money. Something those other streaming services have yet to do.
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Netflix also had a 10 year head start and wasn't profitable day one. It took time, just as D+ and other streamers have taken time to become profitable as well. Hence why Disney stated from day one it would take approx 5 years to become profitable, a fact everyone seems to ignore. They are on-schedule for that to happen this year.
 
Sirwalterraleigh

Sirwalterraleigh

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Casper Gutman said:
Was Spider-Man a Robert Downey Jr movie or a Spider-Man movie?

How many actors have played Spider-Man in hit films? Is Spider-Msn the draw or is it the actor in the leotard?
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So you think Sony and Disney thought: nobody heard of this kid…let’s pay down for a coffee break he could retire on anyway for kicks?


I mean…it COULD have happened that way
 
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celluloid

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Casper Gutman said:
What does a Disney that is “beating” YouTube and TikTok and Instagram look like? Because that sounds kind of awful to me…

As for Netflix, their model is based on producing huge quantities of bland, uninteresting garbage - far worse than anything Disney or any of its traditional studio competitors churns out. I don’t want that for Universal or Columbia or Paramount, let alone for Disney.
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Come on, its not like The Disney Channel of the 2000s, which beat Disney Channel of the 80s and 90s was golden. Disney has been trying to do the hip thing and it does not work. See the aging coach comparison. It does not change the fact that the entertainment world has changed. Youtube has a lot more of GREAT things, it is just there is so much more garbage by nature of populace you have to find it.

Disney Plus has not had any bland garbage?

Youtube also making news this month as its outrageously expensive(remember also in the tv and streaming) service is thriving. https://www.thewrap.com/youtube-tv-strategy/
 
Disney Irish

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Vegas Disney Fan said:
Peltz would be one person on a 12 person board where the 11 other board members fully support Iger, you don’t think he’d be outnumbered?

Even if they somehow managed 2 seats they’d still be outnumbered 10-2… seems pretty obvious. This is also why I say he’d be a consultant, he’d be a minority voice, he wouldn’t have the power to do anything beyond offering advice, the board and Iger can either agree or ignore him. Not exactly rocket science here.
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And then the backroom deals start. Whispers behind closed doors, and now 2 votes turns into 3, 4, 5, 6, etc., until they have a majority of the board voting for whatever they want. Something that many claim Iger has been doing for years. So if you don't think it can happen with Peltz just because he may only get 2 seats.....

Change is needed, sure we can all agree to that. But not this change.
 

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