Amazon blowing past it to Number 2.
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TalkingHead
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Would be interesting to know how many D+ subscribers use it to entertain their kids and have little-to-no interest in original series programming.
Yes, they could have.
But these stats predate that deal.
Also, really, no one is counting subs any more. It's the revenue that counts regardless if it's from 30 people paying a million dollars a year or 30 million people paying one dollar a year.
Unless you get into a boasting match about who has the most viewers...
UNCgolf
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I just meant going forward.
I don't think they're getting any subscription revenue from the Spectrum accounts since it's free for Spectrum subscribers (i.e. their monthly payment doesn't change and it's included automatically), but they are getting the ad money, so it's still a boost.
They could still be getting some small percentage from Spectrum itself, although Spectrum would probably do a price increase to cover that. It was also part of the deal they made over ESPN carriage fees, so who knows.
Regardless, it's money Disney is getting they wouldn't otherwise have even if it's solely the advertising revenue.
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Sirwalterraleigh
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So then the sequels will bomb less when they roll out needing $600,000,000 to break even?I forgive.
OMG... did we just become best friends!!!
The algorithm has issues as I've mentioned, for new content.
But when it comes to sequels? The algorithm is king.
Vegas Disney Fan
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I think Disney is miscalculating ad tiers also, they see them as more profitable but ads will convince me to go back to Blu-ray’s also, I’m not going to pay to see ads when I can watch the content ad free by simply throwing in a Blu-ray.
They are walking a very fine line, with a lot of variables, between worth it or not.
We can be best friends if you let me partake in the morning dive you take each day into your vault of pixie dust.I forgive.
OMG... did we just become best friends!!!
The algorithm has issues as I've mentioned, for new content.
But when it comes to sequels? The algorithm is king.
Like Uncle Scrooge except with smiles rainbows and Bob Iger posters.
Think of the good times we can have together.
I’ll even look at some charts and graphs with you as we reminisce about what Star Cruiser could have been.
( This is all in jest. I’m not attacking you. You are the best )
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Sirwalterraleigh
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This is one of these things where my instincts were totally wrong (listen up pixies)
I thought the concept of D+ was gonna be their new gravy train…like plushies and vhs tapes used to be…
But I missed on that. There’s really no money in the format…the costs will escalate and there no way to outpace it with revenues…
The math isn’t there.
They probably should have bought Hulu and used that as an outlet…with other licenses material…maybe make a Disney sub within that…and heavily pushed into RSNs - the ultimate ad friendly medium - instead.
Maybe less “potential” on paper…but also less volatile and more guaranteed revenues.
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
I’m unfamiliar with “Amazon”…I bet they don’t have the deep pockets Disney does to sustain it?
60% of Disney+ subs are households with no children.
I'd like to see a source for Amazon Prime Video. 200M is thrown around in the internet with no source that I can find (that isn't a guess).
And Prime doesn't reveal their numbers. So much so, most sites that track the streaming wars don't bother with Prime stats. And not only because of the lack of transparency, but because Amazon Prime customers are automatically enrolled in Prime Video.
If people want to discount all the Disney+ subs that come from deals with Verizon and other companies... Well, Prime Video says, "Hold my beer."
Anyhoo, Disney+ & Hulu are just about at that same 200M threshold, and goes over if you include ESPN+ (and by 2025, all of ESPN cable will be on ESPN+). By March, Hulu will be fully integrated into D+.
But that's just bragging rights for number of viewers. Revenue is what matters. And Disney has been publishing a full streaming spreadsheet these past few quarters showing income and expenses. Will wait for Prime Video's spreadsheet...
TalkingHead
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Do wonder how many subscribe primarily for back catalog stuff so they can easily rewatch movies they’ve seen 50 times before. That seems to be Disney’s target audience.
GhostHost1000
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That’s Bob when he saw the financial forecast
No wonder why there are so many annoying Disney Adults at the parks.
Stop it.
They passed the $600M break even point after Star Wars TLJ. Now even their “D-Rated” swill needs more to break even.
We really don’t want to compare Amazon to Disney revenue.
His secret is that He sleeps in Walt’s cryotube. Then takes two showers.
GhostHost1000
Premium Member
We also don’t want to compare Amazon’s website reliability to Disney’s
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
Fun fact: If your goal is to sell stuff online…having a stable platform might be a wise investmentWe also don’t want to compare Amazon’s website reliability to Disney’s
I've seen two or three people in an MCU Facebook group who will each personally contribute thousands of minutes per month to the streaming of "The Marvels" once it is released on Disney+. They are over-the-top obsessed with the movie, bragging about their dozens of theater viewings plus all forms of merchandise, but I suspect the obsession is with the actress who plays Captain Marvel.
Think they will single-handedly push 'The Marvels' to profitability? Nah, I don't think so, either, it's too far in the hole.
Think they will single-handedly push 'The Marvels' to profitability? Nah, I don't think so, either, it's too far in the hole.