The Talk, News, Rumors, About Phase 3

[SirLink]

The person that "stated that" to you must have been referring to most states, as Disneyland is only advertised to maybe 1/3 of them - in the geographic area around Southern California, within a day or two drive, at most.

In any case, only a tiny percentage of folks care about clones. International or not. Sounds like your Australian friends just wanted a free ticket to one of the other parks for the day, to be honest.

Real people (the majority of the public, most consumers, whatever you want to call them) view Disney (particularly the MK-style) as a chain of parks - they don't expect this "special snowflake" uniqueness that some Internet fanbois demand is essential. More people are surprised they aren't the same than expect them to offer fully unique experiences.

It's the same reason people balk at being asked if they visited Disneyland Paris when they were in France - "I'm in France, why in heck would I go some place that I could go to at home anytime?" They think it's just the MK (or Disneyland) in France, not that it's such a unique park.

Weren't my friends just overheard those Australians complaining . Maybe the marketer who made that comment was more routed in the fact that certain states affinities along with the Bugs Bunny sawing off Florida meme.

Real people want there to be differences to motivate them them to see different parks. They don't balk or at least British and European citizens don't it tends to be Americans, that do the balking either a)they didn't do they due diligence in researching attractions around Paris or b)they couldn't afford to go ...

 

[doctornick]

Is the Finding Nemo Crush-Coaster still a possibility?

Seems like a neat ride, but:
1. Do we really need to have Finding Nemo to be represented in a third park at WDW when other IPs aren't in any?
2. The park doesn't really need another coaster, especially once the new additions are up
3. It has horrible capacity

 

[Pam Hates Penguins]

This is my guess of how the 3 phases get set.

Seems like a neat ride, but:
1. Do we really need to have Finding Nemo to be represented in a third park at WDW when other IPs aren't in any?
2. The park doesn't really need another coaster, especially once the new additions are up
3. It has horrible capacity

Now that I have read this, it seems like not such a good idea.

 

[doctornick]

I'm beginning to think more and more that Star Tours will be entirely re-purposed on both coasts. I enjoy the current attraction, but the two new Star Wars based rides need to blow it out of the water from a quality stand point. The reason to keep it is that it does satisfy the "best of" approach, but I don't think it's imperative that they keep it as part of Star Wars Land.

My issue, at least with DHS, why spend the money to re-theme a good attraction at DHS when the park needs a lot more money to be invested in new/additional attractions? I'd much rather they put resources towards a proper "Phase 3" than change an existing attraction to a different concept.

 

[Pam Hates Penguins]

My issue, at least with DHS, why spend the money to re-theme a good attraction at DHS when the park needs a lot more money to be invested in new/additional attractions? I'd much rather they put resources towards a proper "Phase 3" than change an existing attraction to a different concept.

I agree 100% with that statement. Make the land, then re-theme the attractions. If you ask me, they have a whole lot to worry about then impressing people with Star Wars.

 

[Goofyernmost]

Oh they do they very much would like you visit both resorts. They operate very much as separate business units in P&R ... nope their ain't no rose tinted glasses here. I was going to give a breakdown on the whole statistics line... then I thought to myself believe what you makes you feel better, even if it ain't true.

I had many years when I could have done the trip and visited both resorts regularly, but, I didn't and I wouldn't and I'm not alone. Especially after visiting DL once and found the atmosphere cold compared to WDW. Not the park and certainly not because of the fact the Walt actually built it, but, the people, the guests never made me feel anything other then a stranger in a strange land. I didn't feel welcome there. Locals moved and shoved in groups, took over shows and generally acted as if they personally owned the place. I enjoyed my stay as far as the look and the history of the park was concerned, but, not sufficiently enough to warrant ever going back. Many others that I have spoken too, would also not consider going even the first time. To them it is not worth the effort for an east coaster to go all the way to the other side of the country for their entertainment when they have the biggest theme park on the planet right here. Europeans tend to got to WDW or across the pond for extended periods of time. What would one do at DL for two weeks honestly!

Having a clone here would not alter anyone's travel plans nor harm anything. When MK opened in Florida it was almost identical to DL. It didn't do anything or anyone any harm.

 

[SirLink]

I had many years when I could have done the trip and visited both resorts regularly, but, I didn't and I wouldn't and I'm not alone. Especially after visiting DL once and found the atmosphere cold compared to WDW. Not the park and certainly not because of the fact the Walt actually built it, but, the people, the guests never made me feel anything other then a stranger in a strange land. I didn't feel welcome there. Locals moved and shoved in groups, took over shows and generally acted as if they personally owned the place. I enjoyed my stay as far as the look and the history of the park was concerned, but, not sufficiently enough to warrant ever going back. Many others that I have spoken too, would also not consider going even the first time. To them it is not worth the effort for an east coaster to go all the way to the other side of the country for their entertainment when they have the biggest theme park on the planet right here. Europeans tend to got to WDW or across the pond for extended periods of time. What would one do at DL for two weeks honestly!

Having a clone here would not alter anyone's travel plans nor harm anything. When MK opened in Florida it was almost identical to DL. It didn't do anything or anyone any harm.

If you think WDW is warm you have suffered too many heat strokes in the parks. I know I have had the best service in the parks when I have been at Disneyland in the last decade. Service quality at WDW has been going down the pan(handle) so to speak.

We visit the Sequoia national park, visit San Fran, visit Solvang, visit LA, visit Universal Hollywood, visit the various movie studios around LA, etc. We(British and Europeans) like to travel around and see as much as possible. Just like when we come to Florida we don't just do WDW. Some Brits like myself travel into San Fran with mates drive down visiting places along the way which takes 4/5 days, DL and LA for 5/6 days and drive to Las Vegas for the final 3 days of the trip.

 

[DarthMileZ]

will be a long time before we see another expansion.

Marvel can't be used, and besides, its not like Disney doesnt benefit from Universals existance anyway.

 

[SirLink]

will be a long time before we see another expansion.

Marvel can't be used, and besides, its not like Disney doesnt benefit from Universals existance anyway.

It won't be 9 years till the next expansion but more is to come. There are projects for other lands and maybe a potential return to form of a cohesive structure like the lands of DAK/MK e.g. Asia/Africa/Frontierland/LS/NOS that could be brought into DHS.

Obviously bar the one we know was designed the rest all blue sky. It depends on what happens this year with a potential interesting year.

 

[DarthMileZ]

this is my point about iger. hes doing a good job. he's developing disney parks. keeping them alive!

 

[AEfx]

Real people want there to be differences to motivate them them to see different parks. They don't balk or at least British and European citizens don't it tends to be Americans, that do the balking either a)they didn't do they due diligence in researching attractions around Paris or b)they couldn't afford to go ...

Wow, with each post you sound more and more snotty and conceited. Yes, all Americans are poor, ignorant sods...

You missed the point about Paris - I'm talking about people who visit France (not that "can't afford to") - if you ask them, "Gee, while you were there did you go to Disneyland Paris?" And most will look at you, offended - because why would they visit an American "chain park" when there is all of Paris/France to explore?

It's akin to asking them if they made a priority to try the McDonalds in the Louvre.

 

[GoofGoof]

It's akin to asking them if they made a priority to try the McDonalds in the Louvre.

I would, but only because of Pulp Fiction...gotta say I had the Royale with cheese.

 

[GoofGoof]

Animation Courtyard area makes more sense to me for a phase 3 than echo lake if it will be based on additional Pixar properties. There is a lot of backstage space and parking back there so it wouldn't have to be a small addition. I'm pretty pessimistic that there will be any phase 3, but if there is going to be one that makes the most sense. Indy show and echo lake would remain a viable expansion area for future expansions.

One question I have is what are they doing with Jedi Training Academy? It seems relatively popular so I doubt they would get rid of it. When SW land was rumored to be going to Echo Lake there were rumors of making it an indoor "show" either in Sounds Dangerous or AI theaters. If SW is going to be back in LMA/SOA area that doesn't make much sense anymore so will they build a new indoor theater back in SW Land for JTA or just leave it at Star Tours? If Star Tours gets rethemed they would have to move it.

 

[AEfx]

I would, but only because of Pulp Fiction...gotta say I had the Royale with cheese.

Haha, and yes - I would, as well. For similar reasons. I also would spend a good portion of my trip at Disneyland Paris.

However, you, and I, and everyone else here - are in the minority of the general public and their wants/perceptions, LOL. Kind of like how we are thrilled when a ride breaks down and we are on it and get to be evac'd, whereas other folks think that is a strange, bizarre thing to want to happen.

 

[GoofGoof]

Haha, and yes - I would, as well. For similar reasons. I also would spend a good portion of my trip at Disneyland Paris.

However, you, and I, and everyone else here - are in the minority of the general public and their wants/perceptions, LOL. Kind of like how we are thrilled when a ride breaks down and we are on it and get to be evac'd, whereas other folks think that is a strange, bizarre thing to want to happen.

Agreed. I have no issues with cloning attractions. It's only an issue for fanboys. The vast majority of people only visit one US park or the other and very few visit both domestic and international parks. It's way overblown as an issue here.

 

[RSoxNo1]

Please stick to the topic. - about phase 3.

I would expect any redo of Star Tours would be part of Phase 3.

 

[RSoxNo1]

My issue, at least with DHS, why spend the money to re-theme a good attraction at DHS when the park needs a lot more money to be invested in new/additional attractions? I'd much rather they put resources towards a proper "Phase 3" than change an existing attraction to a different concept.

It could be a rare instance where theming something appropriately actually wins out.

 

[SirLink]

Wow, with each post you sound more and more snotty and conceited. Yes, all Americans are poor, ignorant sods...

You missed the point about Paris - I'm talking about people who visit France (not that "can't afford to") - if you ask them, "Gee, while you were there did you go to Disneyland Paris?" And most will look at you, offended - because why would they visit an American "chain park" when there is all of Paris/France to explore?

It's akin to asking them if they made a priority to try the McDonalds in the Louvre.

You missed the point completely I'm talking about the Americans who went to Paris but couldn't afford to go to DLP. Maybe only Americans that get offended. Canadian, Australian, even my couple of Japanese friends were either we went or we didn't have enough time. Personally I think what your stating is crisis of self governing image that some Americans like to display. But that is another talk for another time.

 

[AEfx]

Personally I think what your stating is crisis of self governing image that some Americans like to display. But that is another talk for another time.

Or...not. Now that I know how anti-American you are, talking with you won't be a mistake I waste my time with again. Always funny with you folks, you disdain us but you sure as heck can't get enough of our products. /wave

 

[gmajew]

Really think the tea leaves are showing this phase 3 will be several new rides in many areas, either by retiming and redoing or new rides... Dont think we will be getting another fully themed land at this time... To much of the rest of the park needs drastic work!